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Nial Stewart
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Dave,
You should make what was left the prize in a competition.
Nial
Dave,
You should make what was left the prize in a competition.
Nial
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Michael A. Terrell
Guest
"David L. Jones" wrote:
Watch out for flies! ;-)
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Greed is the root of all eBay.
Watch out for flies! ;-)
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Greed is the root of all eBay.
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Jeff Liebermann
Guest
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:00:05 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:
electronics business that is dedicated to torturing test equipment. I
don't pretend to understand the motivation, but there is ample
evidence of it on the authors blog:
<http://www.eevblog.com>
under the thinly disguised cover of "testing". The practice is
apparently widespread, as shown by the condition of used test
equipment found at flea markets and surplus sales.
Unfortunately, electronic BDSM sites are flourishing on the internet.
Many technicians and test equipment users apparently find some
perverse pleasure at watching their daily tools flogged into eWaste.
This must end as the next generation will certainly presume that such
abuse is the normal method of operation. We learn by example and such
sites are certainly a bad example of proper behavior.
While it is socially unacceptable to inflict pain on humans, there is
no such stricture to not do the same to test equipment. I suspect
that the Humane Society will eventually expand its scope to include
test equipment and other devices that are unable to protect themselves
from abuse. Meanwhile, the best I can suggest, to avoid repetition
and possible expansion, is to demand that test equipment be produced
and tested in a non-violent manner.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
wrote:
Electronic BDSM. There is a small sub-culture of individuals in the
electronics business that is dedicated to torturing test equipment. I
don't pretend to understand the motivation, but there is ample
evidence of it on the authors blog:
<http://www.eevblog.com>
under the thinly disguised cover of "testing". The practice is
apparently widespread, as shown by the condition of used test
equipment found at flea markets and surplus sales.
Unfortunately, electronic BDSM sites are flourishing on the internet.
Many technicians and test equipment users apparently find some
perverse pleasure at watching their daily tools flogged into eWaste.
This must end as the next generation will certainly presume that such
abuse is the normal method of operation. We learn by example and such
sites are certainly a bad example of proper behavior.
While it is socially unacceptable to inflict pain on humans, there is
no such stricture to not do the same to test equipment. I suspect
that the Humane Society will eventually expand its scope to include
test equipment and other devices that are unable to protect themselves
from abuse. Meanwhile, the best I can suggest, to avoid repetition
and possible expansion, is to demand that test equipment be produced
and tested in a non-violent manner.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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geoff
Guest
Franc Zabkar wrote:
geoff
And you didn't send it back ?!!
geoff
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kreed
Guest
On Mar 8, 12:13 am, "Mark Zacharias" <mark_zachar...@sbclobal.net>
wrote:
Agree.
I have had a fluke 87 for about 15 years, it has never let me down. It
has survived drops, rough conditions and other abuse that happens in
the trade. The only thing I have ever done is replace the probes once,
and a fuse when I accidentally blew it once - and that is NOT the
meter's fault.
I cannot be stuck with dodgy equipment when I'm on a job 200km from
the workshop. Been there, done that, when I started out many years
ago.
To me, the cost of time and money and goodwill by having to go back
would be excess of the cost of a decent meter.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another, and Dave's reviews have confirmed
my belief in their products. I can see also where the internal design
has been improved a lot.
Im not just pushing Fluke products either, while I havent used or seen
them, due to industry competition, Im sure that HP, TEK and others
have made comparable quality meters.
wrote:
Agree.
I have had a fluke 87 for about 15 years, it has never let me down. It
has survived drops, rough conditions and other abuse that happens in
the trade. The only thing I have ever done is replace the probes once,
and a fuse when I accidentally blew it once - and that is NOT the
meter's fault.
I cannot be stuck with dodgy equipment when I'm on a job 200km from
the workshop. Been there, done that, when I started out many years
ago.
To me, the cost of time and money and goodwill by having to go back
would be excess of the cost of a decent meter.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another, and Dave's reviews have confirmed
my belief in their products. I can see also where the internal design
has been improved a lot.
Im not just pushing Fluke products either, while I havent used or seen
them, due to industry competition, Im sure that HP, TEK and others
have made comparable quality meters.
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kreed
Guest
On Mar 9, 12:54 am, "Nial Stewart"
<nial*REMOVE_TH...@nialstewartdevelopments.co.uk> wrote:
<nial*REMOVE_TH...@nialstewartdevelopments.co.uk> wrote:
Wonder if you could return it under warranty ?
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ehsjr
Guest
David L. Jones wrote:
Ed
Amazing. I doubted the 3M drop spec. Not any more.
Ed
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Franc Zabkar
Guest
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:44:21 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
could have made the effort to have the batteries replaced, but I
relied on the AC adapter, until it failed.
- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
I bought it in Australia, but I took it to Singapore. I suppose I
could have made the effort to have the batteries replaced, but I
relied on the AC adapter, until it failed.
- Franc Zabkar
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JosephKK
Guest
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Drive over it with a car.
Drive over it with a heavy truck.
Have good athletes kick it into a concrete wall.
Put it into a cement mixer running for 10 minutes (first dry then with water and finally with concrete).
>)
More tests beyond specification:
Drive over it with a car.
Drive over it with a heavy truck.
Have good athletes kick it into a concrete wall.
Put it into a cement mixer running for 10 minutes (first dry then with water and finally with concrete).
>
)
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JosephKK
Guest
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:48:46 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
Well, how do you get around using a reflow oven or some other soldering?
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JosephKK
Guest
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:42:37 +1100, Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
At that price, i might well have flown back and force fed it to the dealer that
was foolish enough to sell me a clearly defective unit.
Just the same, i think i would have force fed it to the local dealer instead.
At that price, i might well have flown back and force fed it to the dealer that
was foolish enough to sell me a clearly defective unit.
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JosephKK
Guest
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:54:46 -0000, "Nial Stewart" <nial*REMOVE_THIS*@nialstewartdevelopments.co.uk> wrote: