Death & Destruction of a Fluke Multimeter

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David L. Jones

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The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.
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In article <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>, altzone@gmail.com
says...
The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.
Click to expand...

Ha! I thought you tied the multimeter to the back of the car and dragged
it down the freeway. :p

Stopped at 3:20min. Had to continue life.
 
Got interesting up around 10:00 or so... 30 meters eh?

Screw you Dave, I wanna see that thing under a sledge. :) Or maybe a log
splitter, or backhoe, or something...

Tim

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In article <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>, altzone@gmail.com
says...

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.


Ha! I thought you tied the multimeter to the back of the car and dragged
it down the freeway. :p

Stopped at 3:20min. Had to continue life.
Click to expand...
 
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ
Click to expand...
Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.
 
Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in<BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.
He got it for nuffin just to test.
Click to expand...
 
"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David L.
Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.
Click to expand...

If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all means use
your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing as, "measurement
confidence". If your work is important, perhaps with lots of money or even
someone's life potentially at stake, which meter would I rather rely on? I
think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when I really
need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the Fluke.

Mark Z.
 
David L. Jones Inscribed thus:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.
Click to expand...
Nice field trip. Most impressive !
I did think that the LCD would have broken much sooner though.
The inductor failure could have been prevented.
Good one.

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Best Regards:
Baron.
 
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100, "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com>wrote:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.
Click to expand...
Absolutely the most idiotic video I've seen in months.
 
If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps
with lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which
meter would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when
I really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.
Click to expand...

I bought an expensive Fluke multimeter 20 years. It continues to work well,
and has only needed to have the LCD contacts cleaned (twice). I'm almost 63,
and if I live to be 90, I expect it to continue to work.

Harbor Freight sometimes sells their cheap multimeter for $2 (!!!). I gave
one to a friend for Christmas, because he needed one for occasional work. I
can see taking such a meter into places it might be damaged or destroyed.
But I wouldn't use it for daily work.
 
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hn0flj$bdj$1@news.eternal-september.org...
If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps
with lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which
meter would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when
I really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.

I bought an expensive Fluke multimeter 20 years. It continues to work
well,
and has only needed to have the LCD contacts cleaned (twice). I'm almost
63,
and if I live to be 90, I expect it to continue to work.

Harbor Freight sometimes sells their cheap multimeter for $2 (!!!). I gave
one to a friend for Christmas, because he needed one for occasional work.
I
can see taking such a meter into places it might be damaged or destroyed.
But I wouldn't use it for daily work.
Click to expand...
I bought a Univolt DT-830 around 1984, and it is still working well too.
The only gripe is that the slide ON/OFF switch corroded and became
intermittent (because I used to live by the sea, I think) so I replaced
it with a toggle switch. The DT-830 uses a 40-pin DIL ICL7106 and other
readily available components like LM324's etc on a normal (not surface
mount)
PCB, so if it does break down I should be able to fix it myself.
It does lack auto-off, but it draws SFA power anyway.
 
"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbclobal.net> wrote in
news:0072e6b7$0$2885$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David L.
Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.


If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps with
lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which meter
would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when I
really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.

Mark Z.
Click to expand...
what's the point of destroying a multimeter?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:hn0flj$bdj$1@news.eternal-september.org:

If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps
with lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which
meter would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when
I really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for
the
Fluke.

I bought an expensive Fluke multimeter 20 years. It continues to work
well, and has only needed to have the LCD contacts cleaned (twice).
I'm almost 63, and if I live to be 90, I expect it to continue to
work.

Harbor Freight sometimes sells their cheap multimeter for $2 (!!!). I
gave one to a friend for Christmas, because he needed one for
occasional work. I can see taking such a meter into places it might be
damaged or destroyed. But I wouldn't use it for daily work.
Click to expand...
the first one I bought was WAY off in voltage reading;IMO,useless.
a 1.5v cell read over 2 volts.
FYI,the input Z for those HF DMMs is ONE megohm.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
 
"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad...
The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.
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Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com
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More multimeter torturing:
Here is report about those $5 multimeters
http://gps.sozialnetz.de/global/show_document.asp?id=aaaaaaaaaaaajxn
And video:
http://www.gossenmetrawatt.com/english/seiten/cautiondangerousmultimeters.htm


Better to stay away from mains with those.
I learned that hard way when I measured a water heater with some unknown
cheap meter.
First measured phase-to-ground 230 V fine... then phase to phase BANG
instead of 380 V
Fortunately only 16 A fuses on that circuit, so only damage was charred
multimeter. Think
if someone were dumb enough to measure something protected with 250 A
fuses... Like
if he forgot his own meter in car and sees nice looking meter lying
somewhere and actually
believes the "CAT III 600V" text printed on it. "Well, this meter should do
the job" and then
it shorts in his hands at about 1/10 voltage CAT III meter should withstand.

-E
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbclobal.net> wrote in
news:0072e6b7$0$2885$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David
L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II
Multimeter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.


If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps with
lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which
meter would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when I
really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.

Mark Z.



what's the point of destroying a multimeter?
Click to expand...
Err, it's FUN?

Dave.

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Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com
 
Jim Yanik Inscribed thus:

"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbclobal.net> wrote in
news:0072e6b7$0$2885$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David
L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.


If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps with
lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which
meter would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when I
really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.

Mark Z.



what's the point of destroying a multimeter?

Advertising !
Click to expand...

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100, "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ

Dave.
Click to expand...
My AUD$3K Fluke PM97 failed from normal use. The batteries wouldn't
hold a charge from day 1, the AC adapter failed after only a short
time, one of the probes failed soon after, and then the meter itself
failed. The service manual was missing the power supply page (maybe
some Fluke/Philips tech used it and forgot to replace it).

One day I'll step on it ... again, and again, and again.

- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
My AUD$3K Fluke PM97 failed from normal use. The batteries
wouldn't hold a charge from day 1, the AC adapter failed after
only a short time, one of the probes failed soon after, and then
the meter itself failed.
Click to expand...
Then why wasn't it repaired/replaced under warranty?
 
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"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbclobal.net> wrote in
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"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David L.
Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.


If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps with
lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which meter
would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when I
really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.

Mark Z.



what's the point of destroying a multimeter?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Click to expand...

Well, Fluke Australia had given it to him to review, and they said he could
torture test it. The new models 27 and 28 replace the previous models
renowned for their ruggedness, so I think it makes sense.

The 100 foot drop onto concrete left my jaw hanging wide open. Then he did
it AGAIN without the rubber holster...oh, my.

Want to bet they put a little RTV on those inductors in the future?

Mark Z.
 
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:42:37 +1100, David L. Jones wrote:

Jim Yanik wrote:
"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbclobal.net> wrote in
news:0072e6b7$0$2885$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David L.
Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II Multimeter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter, if it blows I will get
an other 5 Euro multimeter. But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show??? Makes no sense
to me.


If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing as,
"measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps with lots
of money or even someone's life potentially at stake, which meter would
I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty obvious. I own meters
large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But when I really need to
know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the Fluke.

Mark Z.



what's the point of destroying a multimeter?

Err, it's FUN?
Click to expand...
A bit like kicking kittens?

;-)

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
 
Mark Zacharias wrote:
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9D348E9FDCE21jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44...
"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbclobal.net> wrote in
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"Jan Panteltje" <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn0430$v62$1@news.albasani.net...
On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:21:35 +1100) it happened "David
L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote in <BJGkn.72617$K81.22212@newsfe18.iad>:

The title says it all really.
See what happens when I try to destroy Fluke's new 28-II
Multimeter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlA7-fh5nDQ


Well, why bother, I have a 5 Euro multimeter,
if it blows I will get an other 5 Euro multimeter.
But it says it is 100% protected.
Why burn so many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Just for the show???
Makes no sense to me.


If you had seen some of his earlier videos, you'd know why. By all
means use your cheaper meter if you like, but there is such a thing
as, "measurement confidence". If your work is important, perhaps
with lots of money or even someone's life potentially at stake,
which meter would I rather rely on? I think the answer is pretty
obvious. I own meters large and small, el cheapos and better ones. But
when I
really need to know, right now and with no bullshit, I reach for the
Fluke.

Mark Z.



what's the point of destroying a multimeter?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


Well, Fluke Australia had given it to him to review, and they said he
could torture test it. The new models 27 and 28 replace the previous
models renowned for their ruggedness, so I think it makes sense.
Click to expand...
Precisely.
The unit isn't just sold as regular multimeter, it is specifically designed
and marketed as a super rugged meter that is designed to survive abuse and
water ingress, just like the original Fluke 25 and 27. If that wasn't the
case you'd just buy the identical model 87V.
So to NOT test those aspects would be a poor review indeed. And then to only
drop it from 3m where I know it's going survive is kinda pointless. So it
makes sense to push it and get a meaningful data point at which it does
actually break.

The 100 foot drop onto concrete left my jaw hanging wide open. Then
he did it AGAIN without the rubber holster...oh, my.
Click to expand...
My jaw was equally wide open!

Dave.

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