Dealing with Robo calls - phone ring suppressor

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
<rangerssuck@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 1:13:58 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 1:09:37 PM UTC-4, rangerssuck wrote:
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 4/24/2019 11:50 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Please note that Panasonic has this feature in some of the phones as
part of the "call block" feature:
http://eng.faq.panasonic.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26547/~/how-to-use-the-call-block-feature.
If you do not want the first ring from a number on the call
block list to sound, turn the "first ring setting" to "Off".
The default setting is "On".

Some of my customers use NoMoRobo service (usually via Comcast):
https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/nomorobo
Notice that it has an adjustable number of rings before passing the
ringing to the phone. Most seem have it set to 1 ring delay. My
guess(tm) is that CallClerk might be a bit slow to respond. Looks
like the software only allows suppressing one ring:
https://www.callclerk.com/phone/hlpCallClerkSettingsSound.html
Perhaps you should request that CallClerk add a variable number of
rings setting (as in NoMoRobo) before embarking on a hardware
solution?



Thanks for the response, even if it wasn't what I asked about <G>.

The Panasonic feature is a good one, but its weakness is that caller-id
spoofing makes block lists very ineffective.

NoMoRoBo and CallClerk sit ON the line, not IN it. So, they can't do
anything until the 1st ring has happened and they get the caller id.
One ring is enough to interrupt whatever I'm doing.

The only real solution to this is caller authentication and phone
service providers doing the blocking before a ring is even sent out.
Until/if then, I'll suppress the rings and my callers will have to get
used to the idea that I'm not ever going to pick up until the 3rd ring.

Bob

I us nomorobo and a Panasonic phone that can (and does) block the first ring. This is an effective combination for blocking most crap calls. the ones with the spoofed caller ID still sometimes get through though.

Don't they all "spoof" caller ID? I think I posted about getting three calls from the same guy in 10 minutes and they all showed different numbers.

-- Rick C.

--- Get a 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Many do spoof the ID, but there are probably 25 times a day that I see the phone screen light up (meaning that there's an incoming call), but no ring, meaning the call was terminated - usually by nomorobo - before the second ring.
Not perfect, but better than nothing.

At least 95% of the spam calls to my cell phone have spoofed caller
ID. They use the same area code as my phone, which is 1200mi from
where I live. More than half are insurance calls (making them useless,
even if I were stupid enough to buy what they were selling).

 

[Ingvald44]

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 22:28:10 -0400, krw@notreal.com wrote:

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
rangerssuck@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 1:13:58 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 1:09:37 PM UTC-4, rangerssuck wrote:
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 4/24/2019 11:50 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Please note that Panasonic has this feature in some of the phones as
part of the "call block" feature:
http://eng.faq.panasonic.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/26547/~/how-to-use-the-call-block-feature.
If you do not want the first ring from a number on the call
block list to sound, turn the "first ring setting" to "Off".
The default setting is "On".

Some of my customers use NoMoRobo service (usually via Comcast):
https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/nomorobo
Notice that it has an adjustable number of rings before passing the
ringing to the phone. Most seem have it set to 1 ring delay. My
guess(tm) is that CallClerk might be a bit slow to respond. Looks
like the software only allows suppressing one ring:
https://www.callclerk.com/phone/hlpCallClerkSettingsSound.html
Perhaps you should request that CallClerk add a variable number of
rings setting (as in NoMoRobo) before embarking on a hardware
solution?



Thanks for the response, even if it wasn't what I asked about <G>.

The Panasonic feature is a good one, but its weakness is that caller-id
spoofing makes block lists very ineffective.

NoMoRoBo and CallClerk sit ON the line, not IN it. So, they can't do
anything until the 1st ring has happened and they get the caller id.
One ring is enough to interrupt whatever I'm doing.

The only real solution to this is caller authentication and phone
service providers doing the blocking before a ring is even sent out.
Until/if then, I'll suppress the rings and my callers will have to get
used to the idea that I'm not ever going to pick up until the 3rd ring.

Bob

I us nomorobo and a Panasonic phone that can (and does) block the first ring. This is an effective combination for blocking most crap calls. the ones with the spoofed caller ID still sometimes get through though.

Don't they all "spoof" caller ID? I think I posted about getting three calls from the same guy in 10 minutes and they all showed different numbers.

-- Rick C.

--- Get a 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Many do spoof the ID, but there are probably 25 times a day that I see the phone screen light up (meaning that there's an incoming call), but no ring, meaning the call was terminated - usually by nomorobo - before the second ring.
Not perfect, but better than nothing.

At least 95% of the spam calls to my cell phone have spoofed caller
ID. They use the same area code as my phone, which is 1200mi from
where I live. More than half are insurance calls (making them useless,
even if I were stupid enough to buy what they were selling).

I have one persistant spoofer that uses MY OWN PHONE NUMBER! I
blocked it. Strange.