Current source?

"Hammy" <spamme@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:43:55 GMT, "Bob Monsen" <rcmonsen@gmail.com
wrote:

It looks like J1 is a dead short to ground. You probably want an N-MOSFET
instead, and you'll need a resistor to pull the gate to ground when the
switch closes.

Regards,
Bob Monsen


No that's a P-channel JFET. It will only conduct when the switch is
open Vgsoff (max) =4V.When the switch is closed the JFET is off. When
the switch opens it provides a discharge path for the capacitor
RDSON*C. Once the cap discharges the JFET drain is at zero volts, the
switch is open so there is nothing for it to conduct. RDSON for the
J176 is 250 ohms.

I didn't take direct current measurement but there is no need. I just
measured the rise time of the cap which is 750uS through the 820 Ohm
R4. The fall time is roughly 1/3 that so RDSON must be roughly 1/3 R4.
It just gets warm (not hot) after repeated switching for testing.
Odd, I must have looked at it wrong before. Sorry about that.

Regards,
Bob Monsen
 
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:43:55 GMT, "Bob Monsen" <rcmonsen@gmail.com>
wrote:

It looks like J1 is a dead short to ground. You probably want an N-MOSFET
instead, and you'll need a resistor to pull the gate to ground when the
switch closes.

Regards,
Bob Monsen


No that's a P-channel JFET. It will only conduct when the switch is
open Vgsoff (max) =4V.When the switch is closed the JFET is off. When
the switch opens it provides a discharge path for the capacitor
RDSON*C. Once the cap discharges the JFET drain is at zero volts, the
switch is open so there is nothing for it to conduct. RDSON for the
J176 is 250 ohms.

I didn't take direct current measurement but there is no need. I just
measured the rise time of the cap which is 750uS through the 820 Ohm
R4. The fall time is roughly 1/3 that so RDSON must be roughly 1/3 R4.
It just gets warm (not hot) after repeated switching for testing.
 
"Hammy" <spamme@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I thought I'd give it one more try.

I used a jfet P-channel to discharge the cap at switch off. It drops
the cap voltage to zero in 230uS not spectacular but good enough. Load
current drops almost instantaneously. I tried a JFET before and it
wasn't fully discharging the cap. I must have had a wire crossed
somewhere because it works well now. With a lower RDSON JFET I could
improve that but for 23 cents for the FET I can't complain.

New schematic.

http://i18.tinypic.com/6z8fygx.png

The load is really a photo mosfet driver not two 1n4001's, R10 is for
current sampling. So the total parts count is 11 and price about 50
cents.

Thanks again
It looks like J1 is a dead short to ground. You probably want an N-MOSFET
instead, and you'll need a resistor to pull the gate to ground when the
switch closes.

Regards,
Bob Monsen
 
I thought I'd give it one more try.

I used a jfet P-channel to discharge the cap at switch off. It drops
the cap voltage to zero in 230uS not spectacular but good enough. Load
current drops almost instantaneously. I tried a JFET before and it
wasn't fully discharging the cap. I must have had a wire crossed
somewhere because it works well now. With a lower RDSON JFET I could
improve that but for 23 cents for the FET I can't complain.

New schematic.

http://i18.tinypic.com/6z8fygx.png

The load is really a photo mosfet driver not two 1n4001's, R10 is for
current sampling. So the total parts count is 11 and price about 50
cents.

Thanks again
 
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:38:26 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:


Use a 555 one-shot to contol your output transistor.
Replace everything to the left of Q5 & its resistors
with the one-shot.

Ed
Yes I guess that's what I'll do.

I was trying to do it on the cheap with penny transistors and thick
film resistors. The SCR at half the price of a TLC555 kind of defeats
that purpose though.

Thanks all for the suggestions
 
H

Hammy

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I built a circuit to deliver a 40mA pulse on top of a 10mA DC offset.
The 40 mA pulse is for 100uS.R4 & C1 set the approximate 100uS time
constant. I'm thinking there must be a way to rapidly discharge C1
when the switch opens using fewer components then R11, X1, and Q6 plus
an RC filter for the SCR gate. I tried just a PNP still takes
milliseconds same with a JFET. This current scheme is the quickest
about 20uS to bring VC1 down enough to turn Q2 off.

The schematic is here.

http://i8.tinypic.com/6lawo5d.png

Any suggestions?
 
"Hammy" <spamme@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I built a circuit to deliver a 40mA pulse on top of a 10mA DC offset.
The 40 mA pulse is for 100uS.R4 & C1 set the approximate 100uS time
constant. I'm thinking there must be a way to rapidly discharge C1
when the switch opens using fewer components then R11, X1, and Q6 plus
an RC filter for the SCR gate. I tried just a PNP still takes
milliseconds same with a JFET. This current scheme is the quickest
about 20uS to bring VC1 down enough to turn Q2 off.

The schematic is here.

http://i8.tinypic.com/6lawo5d.png

Any suggestions?
Transistor Q6 should have a turn-on resistor (Q6 base to ground), instead of
having the load turn it on, when the switch is released.

Brian Ellis
 
Hammy wrote:
I built a circuit to deliver a 40mA pulse on top of a 10mA DC offset.
The 40 mA pulse is for 100uS.R4 & C1 set the approximate 100uS time
constant. I'm thinking there must be a way to rapidly discharge C1
when the switch opens using fewer components then R11, X1, and Q6 plus
an RC filter for the SCR gate. I tried just a PNP still takes
milliseconds same with a JFET. This current scheme is the quickest
about 20uS to bring VC1 down enough to turn Q2 off.

The schematic is here.

http://i8.tinypic.com/6lawo5d.png

Any suggestions?
Use a 555 one-shot to contol your output transistor.
Replace everything to the left of Q5 & its resistors
with the one-shot.

Ed
 

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