Current COVID-19 Infection rate by state

[Flyguy]

This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

 

[legg]

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy <tomseim2g@gmail.com>
wrote:

This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Infection rate units - parts per million.

Your 'relative' numbers are inverted
1,245/2691 = .463 etc

New York 1.000
New Jersey 0.463
Louisiana 0.220
Washington 0.178
Massachusetts 0.172
DC 0.157
Michigan 0.135
Connecticut 0.135
Colorado 0.111
Vermont 0.109

RL

 

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.

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[Clifford Heath]

On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.

One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

CH

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

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[Clifford Heath]

On 29/3/20 10:16 am, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts.

Yes, that's a fair criticism. Here in Sydney, ignorant people are
pointing to the prosperous regions being more severely affected and
claiming it's because rich people are dickheads who won't lock down. In
fact of course, rich people travel more, and live in nice places that
other travelers like to visit.

More infected visitors -> more people in more "trees" of infection.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem.
Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it

No, the trouble is that he thinks it's not *his* problem. The only
problem he recognises is that it's getting less likely that he'll be
re-elected.

CH

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 7:37:34 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:

No, the trouble is that he thinks it's not *his* problem. The only
problem he recognises is that it's getting less likely that he'll be
re-elected.

I'm not so sure of that. His popularity seems to be rising in the polls. He's over 45% which is a high water mark for him other than right after the election.

Once things really hit the fans with hospitals overwhelmed and dysfunctional for nearly all medical care, maybe things will change in that regard.

I wish this wasn't the thing that brought him down. This is going to be nearly as bad as the Spanish flu.

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[Flyguy]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 2:42:49 PM UTC-7, legg wrote:

This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Infection rate units - parts per million.

Your 'relative' numbers are inverted
1,245/2691 = .463 etc

New York 1.000
New Jersey 0.463
Louisiana 0.220
Washington 0.178
Massachusetts 0.172
DC 0.157
Michigan 0.135
Connecticut 0.135
Colorado 0.111
Vermont 0.109

RL

The infection rate is the number of cases / population * 1,000,000.
So, it is 52,318 / 19,440,469 * 1,000,000 = 2,691.
The relative rate is 2,691 / rate per state, which is much easier to understand than the other way around. That was intentional. NY's rate is 58 times worse than the lowest rate, Nebraska. Thus, it is NY's rate relative to every other state.

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:05:05 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.

--

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The bottom 10 states are:

New Mexico 2,096,640 191 91 42 29.5
Minnesota 5,700,671 493 86 43 31.1
Virginia 8,626,207 740 86 44 31.4
Hawaii 1,412,687 120 85 45 31.7
South Dakota 903,027 68 75 46 35.7
Kansas 2,910,357 219 75 47 35.8
Kentucky 4,499,692 324 72 48 37.4
Texas 29,472,295 2,036 69 49 39.0
West Virginia 1,778,070 96 54 50 49.8
Nebraska 1,952,570 90 46 51 58.4

So, Texas is one of the most populist states. While much of it is wide open, there are large cities (Dallas, Houston). What Texas doesn't have is a lot of mass transportation.

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-7, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

CH

I think that most people would say that CA has a lot of travelers, but they came in the bottom half at 30.

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

--

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Everyone who has COVID-19 in the US got it from someone else, so that is a tautology. No, I didn't confuse counts with rates; infection rates are computed as counts / population. Thus, some states with smaller populations (CT, CO and VT) can have high infection rates.

Pres. Trump has a VERY GOOD idea what to do about COVID-19, which is based on the opinions of the VERY BEST experts in the world. Protecting the people's safety and countries economy is a delicate balancing act between these two goals. I understand that there are people such as yourself who will NEVER admit that Pres. Trump has done ANYTHING right, but so be it. His presidency WILL be judged by his performance during this crisis, as it should be.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 11:21:05 AM UTC+11, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 7:37:34 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:

No, the trouble is that he thinks it's not *his* problem. The only
problem he recognises is that it's getting less likely that he'll be
re-elected.

I'm not so sure of that. His popularity seems to be rising in the polls. He's over 45% which is a high water mark for him other than right after the election.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

45.8%. As I've said earlier, there's no such thing as bad publicity, and the people who approve of him have to be stupid, so they won't notice how thoroughly he has screwed up.

Once things really hit the fans with hospitals overwhelmed and dysfunctional for nearly all medical care, maybe things will change in that regard.

I wish this wasn't the thing that brought him down. This is going to be nearly as bad as the Spanish flu.

It shouldn't be. China and South Korea have demonstrated two different ways of ensuring that is isn't. If Trump has wrecked the US administration thoroughly enough that the US can't make either work, you probably need to rip up the system and start over, if the debacle isn't bad enough that Canada has to move in to tidy up the smoking remnants.

--
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[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:17:05 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

--

Rick C.

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Everyone who has COVID-19 in the US got it from someone else, so that is a tautology. No, I didn't confuse counts with rates; infection rates are computed as counts / population. Thus, some states with smaller populations (CT, CO and VT) can have high infection rates.

Pres. Trump has a VERY GOOD idea what to do about COVID-19, which is based on the opinions of the VERY BEST experts in the world. Protecting the people's safety and countries economy is a delicate balancing act between these two goals. I understand that there are people such as yourself who will NEVER admit that Pres. Trump has done ANYTHING right, but so be it. His presidency WILL be judged by his performance during this crisis, as it should be.

"Rate" is commonly used for a time reference number. It's poor usage to use it for a "per capita" number.

I can't actually argue about what Trump knows or doesn't know, I haven't strapped him into the lie detector. All I can say is he is completely mismanaging this crisis and fucking a large portion of the US which may end up being the entire US.

How else can you explain how we had such a good start with the numbers and now are in such a bad position with hospitals overloaded and people not receiving the care they need. We see the daily infection rate starting to even off while the daily death rate continues to climb.

Instead of actually getting anything done, like getting ventilators and PPE made, he is fighting with everyone around him.

I used to live in Frederick, MD. We had a mayor once who fought with everyone she should have been finding ways to cooperate with. She had ousted an multi-term mayor who had been popular. Then she ended up being a one term mayor. We can only hope that happens to Trump. Personally, this President has made me realize how important the no confidence vote can be.

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[Flyguy]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 8:45:45 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:17:05 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

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Everyone who has COVID-19 in the US got it from someone else, so that is a tautology. No, I didn't confuse counts with rates; infection rates are computed as counts / population. Thus, some states with smaller populations (CT, CO and VT) can have high infection rates.

Pres. Trump has a VERY GOOD idea what to do about COVID-19, which is based on the opinions of the VERY BEST experts in the world. Protecting the people's safety and countries economy is a delicate balancing act between these two goals. I understand that there are people such as yourself who will NEVER admit that Pres. Trump has done ANYTHING right, but so be it. His presidency WILL be judged by his performance during this crisis, as it should be.

"Rate" is commonly used for a time reference number. It's poor usage to use it for a "per capita" number.

I can't actually argue about what Trump knows or doesn't know, I haven't strapped him into the lie detector. All I can say is he is completely mismanaging this crisis and fucking a large portion of the US which may end up being the entire US.

How else can you explain how we had such a good start with the numbers and now are in such a bad position with hospitals overloaded and people not receiving the care they need. We see the daily infection rate starting to even off while the daily death rate continues to climb.

Instead of actually getting anything done, like getting ventilators and PPE made, he is fighting with everyone around him.

I used to live in Frederick, MD. We had a mayor once who fought with everyone she should have been finding ways to cooperate with. She had ousted an multi-term mayor who had been popular. Then she ended up being a one term mayor. We can only hope that happens to Trump. Personally, this President has made me realize how important the no confidence vote can be.

--

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You, of course, are entitled to your opinion, even if it is totally fucked up. How else? Have you even glanced at what happened in 1918? I doubt it. This is how these kind of virulent pandemics work and why they took such unprecedented action, which will save HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS to MILLIONS of lives. Pres Trump has TOTALLY on-board with this crisis, starting with restricting China travel on Feb. 3, a time when there were very few COVID cases in the US.
You need to read the news: Pres Trump has invoked the DPA to FORCE GM to build ventilators! How much more direct action do you want, send troops into GM's factories???

 

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:e546cefe-6d39-44d4-9e2f-7f214c70a1b5@googlegroups.com:

. This is how these kind of virulent pandemics work and why they
took such unprecedented action, which will save HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS to MILLIONS of lives.

You are a true idiot.

We have not been through this before, putz. So ALL "actions" are
unprecedented, you stupid fuck.

And NONE need to be touted as some heroic action by some proven
criminal lying untrusted putz motherfucker who spent the first four
weeks sitting on his hands with muzzles duct taped over his ears and
eyes.

Get your pathetic putz fuck head out of his fat retarded dangerous
buffoon ass.

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 8:41:32 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

. This is how these kind of virulent pandemics work and why they
took such unprecedented action, which will save HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS to MILLIONS of lives.

You are a true idiot.

We have not been through this before, putz. So ALL "actions" are
unprecedented, you stupid fuck.

And NONE need to be touted as some heroic action by some proven
criminal lying untrusted putz motherfucker who spent the first four
weeks sitting on his hands with muzzles duct taped over his ears and
eyes.

Get your pathetic putz fuck head out of his fat retarded dangerous
buffoon ass.

LOL! Calling you "brain dead" would be a compliment; where were YOU and the rest of your fellow libtards when this crisis was first unfolding? MISSING IN ACTION! Pres. Trump has been decisive on this issue and has most likely saved MILLIONS OF LIVES as a result. What were you doing? CRYING AND MOANING about impeachment, THAT'S WHAT you HOPELESS FUCK!!!

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 11:28:20 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 8:45:45 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:17:05 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem.. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't..

--

Rick C.

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Everyone who has COVID-19 in the US got it from someone else, so that is a tautology. No, I didn't confuse counts with rates; infection rates are computed as counts / population. Thus, some states with smaller populations (CT, CO and VT) can have high infection rates.

Pres. Trump has a VERY GOOD idea what to do about COVID-19, which is based on the opinions of the VERY BEST experts in the world. Protecting the people's safety and countries economy is a delicate balancing act between these two goals. I understand that there are people such as yourself who will NEVER admit that Pres. Trump has done ANYTHING right, but so be it. His presidency WILL be judged by his performance during this crisis, as it should be.

"Rate" is commonly used for a time reference number. It's poor usage to use it for a "per capita" number.

I can't actually argue about what Trump knows or doesn't know, I haven't strapped him into the lie detector. All I can say is he is completely mismanaging this crisis and fucking a large portion of the US which may end up being the entire US.

How else can you explain how we had such a good start with the numbers and now are in such a bad position with hospitals overloaded and people not receiving the care they need. We see the daily infection rate starting to even off while the daily death rate continues to climb.

Instead of actually getting anything done, like getting ventilators and PPE made, he is fighting with everyone around him.

I used to live in Frederick, MD. We had a mayor once who fought with everyone she should have been finding ways to cooperate with. She had ousted an multi-term mayor who had been popular. Then she ended up being a one term mayor. We can only hope that happens to Trump. Personally, this President has made me realize how important the no confidence vote can be.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

You, of course, are entitled to your opinion, even if it is totally fucked up. How else? Have you even glanced at what happened in 1918? I doubt it. This is how these kind of virulent pandemics work and why they took such unprecedented action, which will save HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS to MILLIONS of lives. Pres Trump has TOTALLY on-board with this crisis, starting with restricting China travel on Feb. 3, a time when there were very few COVID cases in the US.
You need to read the news: Pres Trump has invoked the DPA to FORCE GM to build ventilators! How much more direct action do you want, send troops into GM's factories???

That's exactly the sort of ineffective action I'm talking about. GM didn't need to be forced. They only needed a contract. They still won't make ventilators until someone steps up and offers to buy them. Actually I read they were going ahead to make them without a contract.

Trump babbling on the news or in a Tweet means nothing.

You are rather pointless to discuss anything with because you can't seem to understand the facts. So I'll move on and let you rant on your own.

--

Rick C.

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[Flyguy]

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 10:02:28 AM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 11:28:20 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 8:45:45 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:17:05 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre....@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts.. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Everyone who has COVID-19 in the US got it from someone else, so that is a tautology. No, I didn't confuse counts with rates; infection rates are computed as counts / population. Thus, some states with smaller populations (CT, CO and VT) can have high infection rates.

Pres. Trump has a VERY GOOD idea what to do about COVID-19, which is based on the opinions of the VERY BEST experts in the world. Protecting the people's safety and countries economy is a delicate balancing act between these two goals. I understand that there are people such as yourself who will NEVER admit that Pres. Trump has done ANYTHING right, but so be it. His presidency WILL be judged by his performance during this crisis, as it should be.

"Rate" is commonly used for a time reference number. It's poor usage to use it for a "per capita" number.

I can't actually argue about what Trump knows or doesn't know, I haven't strapped him into the lie detector. All I can say is he is completely mismanaging this crisis and fucking a large portion of the US which may end up being the entire US.

How else can you explain how we had such a good start with the numbers and now are in such a bad position with hospitals overloaded and people not receiving the care they need. We see the daily infection rate starting to even off while the daily death rate continues to climb.

Instead of actually getting anything done, like getting ventilators and PPE made, he is fighting with everyone around him.

I used to live in Frederick, MD. We had a mayor once who fought with everyone she should have been finding ways to cooperate with. She had ousted an multi-term mayor who had been popular. Then she ended up being a one term mayor. We can only hope that happens to Trump. Personally, this President has made me realize how important the no confidence vote can be.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

You, of course, are entitled to your opinion, even if it is totally fucked up. How else? Have you even glanced at what happened in 1918? I doubt it. This is how these kind of virulent pandemics work and why they took such unprecedented action, which will save HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS to MILLIONS of lives. Pres Trump has TOTALLY on-board with this crisis, starting with restricting China travel on Feb. 3, a time when there were very few COVID cases in the US.
You need to read the news: Pres Trump has invoked the DPA to FORCE GM to build ventilators! How much more direct action do you want, send troops into GM's factories???

That's exactly the sort of ineffective action I'm talking about. GM didn't need to be forced. They only needed a contract. They still won't make ventilators until someone steps up and offers to buy them. Actually I read they were going ahead to make them without a contract.

Trump babbling on the news or in a Tweet means nothing.

You are rather pointless to discuss anything with because you can't seem to understand the facts. So I'll move on and let you rant on your own.

--

Rick C.

+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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ALL they needed was a contract? Get real, they were holding a gun to the nation's collective head. Trump's actions were VERY effective: he called their bluff and GM is now in the process of ramping up ventilator production after some contentious contract negotiations.

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 1:08:38 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 10:02:28 AM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 11:28:20 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 8:45:45 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:17:05 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 6:56:54 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 29/3/20 9:04 am, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre....@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 3:17:51 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
This table shows the infection rate (cases per million population) for the top 10 states, and the rate relative to NY. Data is current as of today (3/28). Raw data source is:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

State Population Cases Infection Rate Infection Rank Rel to NY
New York 19,440,469 52,318 2,691 1 1.0
New Jersey 8,936,574 11,124 1,245 2 2.2
Louisiana 4,645,184 2,746 591 3 4.6
Washington 7,797,095 3,732 479 4 5.6
Massachusetts 6,976,597 3,240 464 5 5.8
District of Columbia 720,687 304 422 6 6.4
Michigan 10,045,029 3,657 364 7 7.4
Connecticut 3,563,077 1,291 362 8 7.4
Colorado 5,845,526 1,740 298 9 9.0
Vermont 628,061 184 293 10 9.2

Makes you wonder what's going on in Colorado and Vermont, they're just not the same grade as the others. Surprised Florida is not on there with all the travel and tourists through there.

Florida is #7. They had the spring breakers.

The states at the bottom of the list are probably ones with few people per square mile making infection less likely. Or places where people just don't like each other so they just don't get close.


One of the biggest factors isn't peoples' behaviour affecting
transmission, but the number of travelers (from inside and outside rthe
region) who seeded it all.

Regions with a high infection rate are places with a lot of travelers,
at least in the early stages.

I think you may be confusing infection rate with infection counts. High infection counts mean those places were seeded earlier or with higher numbers which is related to travel. Infection rates have to so with the rate of transmission of the infection within the country. That becomes independent of travel related infection very quickly.

At this point, even Trump recognizes that we have a serious problem. Trouble is he has no idea what to do about it and simply knows he needs to keep the economy from tanking. I don't think he can do that at this point, after having delayed too long. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

--

Rick C.

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+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Everyone who has COVID-19 in the US got it from someone else, so that is a tautology. No, I didn't confuse counts with rates; infection rates are computed as counts / population. Thus, some states with smaller populations (CT, CO and VT) can have high infection rates.

Pres. Trump has a VERY GOOD idea what to do about COVID-19, which is based on the opinions of the VERY BEST experts in the world. Protecting the people's safety and countries economy is a delicate balancing act between these two goals. I understand that there are people such as yourself who will NEVER admit that Pres. Trump has done ANYTHING right, but so be it. His presidency WILL be judged by his performance during this crisis, as it should be.

"Rate" is commonly used for a time reference number. It's poor usage to use it for a "per capita" number.

I can't actually argue about what Trump knows or doesn't know, I haven't strapped him into the lie detector. All I can say is he is completely mismanaging this crisis and fucking a large portion of the US which may end up being the entire US.

How else can you explain how we had such a good start with the numbers and now are in such a bad position with hospitals overloaded and people not receiving the care they need. We see the daily infection rate starting to even off while the daily death rate continues to climb.

Instead of actually getting anything done, like getting ventilators and PPE made, he is fighting with everyone around him.

I used to live in Frederick, MD. We had a mayor once who fought with everyone she should have been finding ways to cooperate with. She had ousted an multi-term mayor who had been popular. Then she ended up being a one term mayor. We can only hope that happens to Trump. Personally, this President has made me realize how important the no confidence vote can be.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

You, of course, are entitled to your opinion, even if it is totally fucked up. How else? Have you even glanced at what happened in 1918? I doubt it. This is how these kind of virulent pandemics work and why they took such unprecedented action, which will save HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS to MILLIONS of lives. Pres Trump has TOTALLY on-board with this crisis, starting with restricting China travel on Feb. 3, a time when there were very few COVID cases in the US.
You need to read the news: Pres Trump has invoked the DPA to FORCE GM to build ventilators! How much more direct action do you want, send troops into GM's factories???

That's exactly the sort of ineffective action I'm talking about. GM didn't need to be forced. They only needed a contract. They still won't make ventilators until someone steps up and offers to buy them. Actually I read they were going ahead to make them without a contract.

Trump babbling on the news or in a Tweet means nothing.

You are rather pointless to discuss anything with because you can't seem to understand the facts. So I'll move on and let you rant on your own.

--

Rick C.

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ALL they needed was a contract? Get real, they were holding a gun to the nation's collective head. Trump's actions were VERY effective: he called their bluff and GM is now in the process of ramping up ventilator production after some contentious contract negotiations.

Sorry, where have you read about these "contentious" contract negotiations?

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