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[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:55:41 +0100, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

On 13/07/2020 12:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:05:41 +0100, <omnilobe@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 2:10:22 AM UTC-10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why are CPUs only about 80W TDP? Can\'t they make ones with three
times as many cores that have 250W TDP like graphics cards?

Low power is a good thing. The 250 watt chip needs a big loud fan
or liquid cooling. The GPU can use more parallel processing for
a small class of functions. The CPU has general processing, not so much
in parallel. Therefore a low power CPU has low watts and 100% performance
for widely varying general tasks.

That doesn\'t make sense. If people put up with a loud (and only when
running flat out) fan for a graphics card, they\'d put up with it for a
CPU. Remember, it\'s still quiet if you\'re not taxing it, and since it
would be more powerful, you wouldn\'t be.

Every GPU I\'ve had has had a huge heatsink on it that could keep it cool
without the fan having to go too fast. Often the smaller fan on the
smaller heatsink on the CPU makes more noise.

Every GPU I\'ve ever had has three fans that are fucking loud. CPU, hardly audible.

A huge heatsink could be put on a CPU.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:55:41 +0100, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

On 13/07/2020 12:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:05:41 +0100, <omnilobe@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 2:10:22 AM UTC-10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why are CPUs only about 80W TDP? Can\'t they make ones with three
times as many cores that have 250W TDP like graphics cards?

Low power is a good thing. The 250 watt chip needs a big loud fan
or liquid cooling. The GPU can use more parallel processing for
a small class of functions. The CPU has general processing, not so much
in parallel. Therefore a low power CPU has low watts and 100% performance
for widely varying general tasks.

That doesn\'t make sense. If people put up with a loud (and only when
running flat out) fan for a graphics card, they\'d put up with it for a
CPU. Remember, it\'s still quiet if you\'re not taxing it, and since it
would be more powerful, you wouldn\'t be.

Every GPU I\'ve had has had a huge heatsink on it that could keep it cool
without the fan having to go too fast. Often the smaller fan on the
smaller heatsink on the CPU makes more noise.

Every GPU I\'ve ever had has three fans that are fucking loud. CPU, hardly audible.

A huge heatsink could be put on a CPU.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:17:56 +0100, Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote:
Why are CPUs only about 80W TDP? Can\'t they make ones with three times as many cores that have 250W TDP like graphics cards?

they do and have for years. Here\'s a current one, hope you have some cash

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/205684/intel-xeon-platinum-8380hl-processor-38-5m-cache-2-90-ghz.html

Now show me one from years ago. Where \"years ago\" is a similar
timeframe to when graphics cards got that powerful.

You have a link to the ark site. enter your data for whatever graphic
cards getting powerful means and find your answer.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:17:56 +0100, Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote:
Why are CPUs only about 80W TDP? Can\'t they make ones with three times as many cores that have 250W TDP like graphics cards?

they do and have for years. Here\'s a current one, hope you have some cash

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/205684/intel-xeon-platinum-8380hl-processor-38-5m-cache-2-90-ghz.html

Now show me one from years ago. Where \"years ago\" is a similar
timeframe to when graphics cards got that powerful.

You have a link to the ark site. enter your data for whatever graphic
cards getting powerful means and find your answer.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:17:56 +0100, Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote:
Why are CPUs only about 80W TDP? Can\'t they make ones with three times as many cores that have 250W TDP like graphics cards?

they do and have for years. Here\'s a current one, hope you have some cash

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/205684/intel-xeon-platinum-8380hl-processor-38-5m-cache-2-90-ghz.html

Now show me one from years ago. Where \"years ago\" is a similar
timeframe to when graphics cards got that powerful.

You have a link to the ark site. enter your data for whatever graphic
cards getting powerful means and find your answer.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 21/07/20 05:03, Bill Sloman wrote:
> ... when I was postdoc at Southampton.

I was an undergrad there 75-78.

On the 40th anniversary of our graduation I met some friends
there on the open day, and toured the Electronics and Computer
Science building.

They still have the old ethos: great mixture of theory
and practical, with students allowed to use the equipment
for their home projects. The main difference was that
the projects I saw were done in groups of four students,
which enables more complex projects to be tackled but
has the problem of teamwork and weaker members.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 21/07/20 05:03, Bill Sloman wrote:
> ... when I was postdoc at Southampton.

I was an undergrad there 75-78.

On the 40th anniversary of our graduation I met some friends
there on the open day, and toured the Electronics and Computer
Science building.

They still have the old ethos: great mixture of theory
and practical, with students allowed to use the equipment
for their home projects. The main difference was that
the projects I saw were done in groups of four students,
which enables more complex projects to be tackled but
has the problem of teamwork and weaker members.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 21/07/20 05:03, Bill Sloman wrote:
> ... when I was postdoc at Southampton.

I was an undergrad there 75-78.

On the 40th anniversary of our graduation I met some friends
there on the open day, and toured the Electronics and Computer
Science building.

They still have the old ethos: great mixture of theory
and practical, with students allowed to use the equipment
for their home projects. The main difference was that
the projects I saw were done in groups of four students,
which enables more complex projects to be tackled but
has the problem of teamwork and weaker members.

 

[server]

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 22:11:30 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 9:40:20 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:49:20 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

That\'s really scary, science as a path to fame, fortune, prizes,
adoration from movie stars.

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2020/07/20/anthony-fauci-to-throw-first-pitch-for-washington-nationals-season-opener/

Another victim of fame.

Like Marie Sklowdowska, who got a Nobel prize, and was so distracted
by that fame, and raising small chidren, and her husband\'s untimely death,
that she didn\'t get another Nobel prize for eight years.

Fame doesn\'t usually make victims. Fatuous articles on Breitbart are really scary.

Is it less scary when NPR reports it?

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/20/893340343/dr-anthony-fauci-to-throw-first-pitch-for-washington-nationals-season-opener

I suppose talk shows, $40K speeches at obscure conventions, and book
advances are next. Maybe a new girlfriend, like Algore.

Well, he wasn\'t much of a scientist. Maybe he\'ll be a better
entertainer. The pay is sure better.







--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[server]

On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 9:36:19 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 2:24:31 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 10:37:51 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 7:07:56 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 11:29:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 5:06:29 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:16:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
Today\'s Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences has this paper

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/06/23/2006048117..full.pdf

Apparently if you spend time spelling out what exponential growth really means, even conservatives become more willing to take social distancing seriously.

It probably won\'t work on John Larkin who is really resistant to having things spelled out for him, and wouldn\'t work for Trump, who hasn\'t got a long enough attention span to let him absorb the message.

Another of your crap cites from the Sycophants. No such conclusions can be drawn from their phony research.

In your opinion. Nobody seems to have asked you to peer-review the paper when it was first submitted to PNAS.

Their phony work was based on a weak survey on MTurk, and it does not comply with any existing standards for psychological research.

As if you would know what they were. Or could even point to place where they were codified.

They mention it right there in that paper. Do you even read this stuff???

There is a link to https://osf.io/xjwbg/ but that\'s just a link to more of the same.

There is a reference to Deutsche Gesellschaft für Psychologie,Ethisches Handeln in der psychologischen Forschung: Empfehlungen der Deutschen Gesellschaft für Psychologie für Forschendeund Ethikkommissionen, (Hogrefe, Göttingen, Germany, 2018)

but that\'s just about the ethics, as you\'d have been able to work out if you could read German.

Why don\'t you try reading the body of the paper, idiot.

If you had, you\'d be able to quote the text you pretend to be referring to.

snipped more of Fred\'s absurd maunderings

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

There you go again with your punk accusations of someone being pretentious and/or stupid and ignorant. You\'re the pathetic lightweight here. You\'re not worth talking too.

 

[Ricketty C]

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 12:32:23 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 9:36:19 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 2:24:31 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 10:37:51 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 7:07:56 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 11:29:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 5:06:29 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:16:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
Today\'s Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences has this paper

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/06/23/2006048117.full.pdf

Apparently if you spend time spelling out what exponential growth really means, even conservatives become more willing to take social distancing seriously.

It probably won\'t work on John Larkin who is really resistant to having things spelled out for him, and wouldn\'t work for Trump, who hasn\'t got a long enough attention span to let him absorb the message.

Another of your crap cites from the Sycophants. No such conclusions can be drawn from their phony research.

In your opinion. Nobody seems to have asked you to peer-review the paper when it was first submitted to PNAS.

Their phony work was based on a weak survey on MTurk, and it does not comply with any existing standards for psychological research.

As if you would know what they were. Or could even point to place where they were codified.

They mention it right there in that paper. Do you even read this stuff???

There is a link to https://osf.io/xjwbg/ but that\'s just a link to more of the same.

There is a reference to Deutsche Gesellschaft für Psychologie,Ethisches Handeln in der psychologischen Forschung: Empfehlungen der Deutschen Gesellschaft für Psychologie für Forschendeund Ethikkommissionen, (Hogrefe, Göttingen, Germany, 2018)

but that\'s just about the ethics, as you\'d have been able to work out if you could read German.

Why don\'t you try reading the body of the paper, idiot.

If you had, you\'d be able to quote the text you pretend to be referring to.

snipped more of Fred\'s absurd maunderings

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

There you go again with your punk accusations of someone being pretentious and/or stupid and ignorant. You\'re the pathetic lightweight here. You\'re not worth talking too.

And yet you continue to do so, much to the amusement of the one you decry!

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ricketty C]

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 12:32:23 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 9:36:19 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 2:24:31 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 10:37:51 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 7:07:56 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 11:29:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 5:06:29 AM UTC+10, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:16:45 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
Today\'s Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences has this paper

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/06/23/2006048117.full.pdf

Apparently if you spend time spelling out what exponential growth really means, even conservatives become more willing to take social distancing seriously.

It probably won\'t work on John Larkin who is really resistant to having things spelled out for him, and wouldn\'t work for Trump, who hasn\'t got a long enough attention span to let him absorb the message.

Another of your crap cites from the Sycophants. No such conclusions can be drawn from their phony research.

In your opinion. Nobody seems to have asked you to peer-review the paper when it was first submitted to PNAS.

Their phony work was based on a weak survey on MTurk, and it does not comply with any existing standards for psychological research.

As if you would know what they were. Or could even point to place where they were codified.

They mention it right there in that paper. Do you even read this stuff???

There is a link to https://osf.io/xjwbg/ but that\'s just a link to more of the same.

There is a reference to Deutsche Gesellschaft für Psychologie,Ethisches Handeln in der psychologischen Forschung: Empfehlungen der Deutschen Gesellschaft für Psychologie für Forschendeund Ethikkommissionen, (Hogrefe, Göttingen, Germany, 2018)

but that\'s just about the ethics, as you\'d have been able to work out if you could read German.

Why don\'t you try reading the body of the paper, idiot.

If you had, you\'d be able to quote the text you pretend to be referring to.

snipped more of Fred\'s absurd maunderings

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

There you go again with your punk accusations of someone being pretentious and/or stupid and ignorant. You\'re the pathetic lightweight here. You\'re not worth talking too.

And yet you continue to do so, much to the amusement of the one you decry!

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Cydrome Leader]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On 15 Jul 2020 14:32:46 GMT, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
One of my most common causes of writing ECOs against new designs is
that the LEDs are too bright. Gotta do that again today.

It is even more true for blue leds than for green. When a device
has a blue indicator LED, it usually is far too bright. Both my PC
and my router have indicator lights that, when not taped over, cause
a large blue spot to appear on the opposite wall.

Blue seems to annoy people. As LEDs got better, we got complaints from
users, and had to reduce currents. The first blue LEDs, the SiC Crees,
were about right for a panel indicator at 50 mA. Now 1 mA is a bit
bright.

The original SiC Crees had a really nice light blue color too. I still
have one or two samples. They looked unique, like the 1970s or older era
deep red LEDs.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

onsdag den 15. juli 2020 kl. 20.04.55 UTC+2 skrev Ricketty C:
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:47:46 PM UTC-4, Pimpom wrote:
On 7/15/2020 9:14 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On 15 Jul 2020 14:32:46 GMT, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
One of my most common causes of writing ECOs against new designs is
that the LEDs are too bright. Gotta do that again today.

It is even more true for blue leds than for green. When a device
has a blue indicator LED, it usually is far too bright. Both my PC
and my router have indicator lights that, when not taped over, cause
a large blue spot to appear on the opposite wall.

The best use of this I\'ve seen is Bosch dishwashers, the models that
have no visible controls or indicators when the door is closed:

They use a blue LED to project a spot on the floor - if the spot is
steady, the diswasher is happily progressing through its cycle. If
blinking, go figure out why.

I used a blue LED projection as an indicator in a custom-built
product I made last year. The central unit is housed in a white
plastic box which is completely closed except for an antenna and
a USB port. Going by a last minute inspiration, I projected the
blue LED at the inside of the box from about 2cm away instead of
having it poke through the wall. The result is a diffused circle
of blue light. The customer loved it. The LED current is 1.5mA.

I think I\'ve seen clock that show their LEDs through a white plastic case. Blue LEDs behind white are very attractive I think. I much prefer blue LEDs to red ones.


I\'m sure I\'ve seen some standard that specifies that red should be reserved for errors and warnings

I believe this was an ECMA standard, or one pushed by them real hard. I\'m
not a fan of designed by committee european standards, but this is one
that makes sense. However since europe in general seemed unable to design
or build computers this issues of red lights indicating hard disk activity
and not meaning a stream of errors blew over without weird fines on the
importation of these computers and peripherals from Taiwan and the US.

In the old desktop PC era, green was a power indicator, yellow might be
\"turbo\" and red was usually a HDD activity light, but this could vary,
even for larger disks that had the activity light embedded in the front
bezel. For network and telecom peripherals, well, red LEDs were cheap so
that\'s what all the old gear used. I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen a red LED
used or an ethernet port, even for collisions on 10base-2 networks. Those
were always green or yellow. Then everything went blue.

On modern servers the colors tamed a bit where red (really orange due to
colorblindness concerns) means error, in line with original ECMA fantasy.
It just took decades.

There are some weird side effects though, and failed hard disk can
instead of lighting up red/orange indicating replacement is needed can be
end up purple, which is not a documented color for disk status.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On 15 Jul 2020 14:32:46 GMT, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
One of my most common causes of writing ECOs against new designs is
that the LEDs are too bright. Gotta do that again today.

It is even more true for blue leds than for green. When a device
has a blue indicator LED, it usually is far too bright. Both my PC
and my router have indicator lights that, when not taped over, cause
a large blue spot to appear on the opposite wall.

Blue seems to annoy people. As LEDs got better, we got complaints from
users, and had to reduce currents. The first blue LEDs, the SiC Crees,
were about right for a panel indicator at 50 mA. Now 1 mA is a bit
bright.

The original SiC Crees had a really nice light blue color too. I still
have one or two samples. They looked unique, like the 1970s or older era
deep red LEDs.

 

[legg]

Per capita comparisons are interesting.

The Wuhan event resulted in virus detections per capita
in the 54ppm range at the end of its containment excercises
in which the resources of the whole country were applied.

In the US, Sweden and Peru, detections are over 5000ppm, at
present, without containment.

China would have had to experience 100 Wuhans, to match this,
and detections indicate a 2x Wuhan-level event for every day
that records are kept in those nations.

It\'s not unreasonable to question whether containment is
possible, at this late stage.

A 100ppm daily detection rate would, in one year, result in
an approximately 4% penetration within the population.

Recently Chile has reported virus penetration of 1.5% after
four months. Fatality rates of covid sufferers is reported
to be below 3%.

Median age in US and Russia is 38.7 and 37.6yrs respectively.
Median age in Canada, UK and Sweden is 40-41yrs.
Median age in Germany and Italy is 45-46yrs.
Median age in Peru and Mexico is 27.5yrs.
Median age in Chile and Brazil is 33.7 and 31.3yrs respectively.

As of Jul20:

US detections are at 11399ppm.
Detection rate is 187ppm/day (possibly steadying around 200ppm)
Fatalities at 425ppm (2.4ppm /day)
FR 4.3% from a 9985ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
US tests performed total 138170ppm (13.8%), at 2350ppm/day.
8.2% of tests are positive - currently 8%.

Canada detections at 2923ppm ~ 85 days behind the US.
Detection rate at 18ppm/day ( and rising ).
Fatalities at 235ppm (0.3ppm/day)
FR 8.2% from a 2850ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Canadian tests performed total 93280ppm (9.3%), at 1170ppm/day .
3.1% of tests are positive - currently 1.5%.

Italian detections at 4043ppm.
Detection rate is 4ppm/day (possibly steadying around 3ppm)
Fatalities at 579ppm (0.2ppm/day)
FR 14.4% from a 4020ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Italian tests performed total 103570ppm (10.3%), at 710ppm/day.
3.9% of tests are positive - currently 0.6%.

Sweden detections at 7652ppm.
Detection rate is 33ppm/day. (possibly steady around 40ppm/day)
Fatalities at 556ppm (1.3ppm/day)
FR is 7.5% from a 7416ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Sweden tests performed unreported, at 1160ppm/day
unknown tests are positive - currently 2.8%.

UK detections at 4342ppm.
Detection rate is 11ppm/day (possibly steady around 11ppm)
Fatalities at 667ppm (1.0ppm/day)
FR is 15.6% from a 4266ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
UK tests performed total 118580ppm (11.9%), at 1810ppm/day.
3.7% of tests are positive - currently 0.6%

Brazil detections at 9872ppm.
Detection rate is 110ppm/day and unstable
Fatalities at 374ppm (8.6ppm/day)
FR is 4.3% from an 8773ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Brazilian test performed not reported
No test detection rate is possible.

Peru detections at 10724ppm
Detection rate is 124ppm/day (possibly steady around 120ppm)
Fatalities at 400ppm (5.7ppm/day)
FR is 4.0% from a 9897ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Peru tests performed were 9900ppm (1.0%) at 150ppm/day.
No test detection rate is possible - currently at 83%.

Mexico detections at 2670ppm
Detection rate is 41ppm/day
Fatalities at 304ppm (2.3ppm/day)
FR is 13.1% from a 2325ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Mexico tests performed were 5670ppm (0.6%), at 70ppm/day
47% of tests are positive - currently 59%.

Chile detections at 17311ppm (1.7%)
Detection rate is 230ppm/day and unstable.
Fatalities at 449ppm (10ppm/day)
FR is 2.9% from 15460ppm detection recorded 14 days previously.
Chile tests performed total 74300 (7.4%), at 820ppm/day.
23% of tests are positive - currently 28%.

RL

 

[legg]

Per capita comparisons are interesting.

The Wuhan event resulted in virus detections per capita
in the 54ppm range at the end of its containment excercises
in which the resources of the whole country were applied.

In the US, Sweden and Peru, detections are over 5000ppm, at
present, without containment.

China would have had to experience 100 Wuhans, to match this,
and detections indicate a 2x Wuhan-level event for every day
that records are kept in those nations.

It\'s not unreasonable to question whether containment is
possible, at this late stage.

A 100ppm daily detection rate would, in one year, result in
an approximately 4% penetration within the population.

Recently Chile has reported virus penetration of 1.5% after
four months. Fatality rates of covid sufferers is reported
to be below 3%.

Median age in US and Russia is 38.7 and 37.6yrs respectively.
Median age in Canada, UK and Sweden is 40-41yrs.
Median age in Germany and Italy is 45-46yrs.
Median age in Peru and Mexico is 27.5yrs.
Median age in Chile and Brazil is 33.7 and 31.3yrs respectively.

As of Jul20:

US detections are at 11399ppm.
Detection rate is 187ppm/day (possibly steadying around 200ppm)
Fatalities at 425ppm (2.4ppm /day)
FR 4.3% from a 9985ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
US tests performed total 138170ppm (13.8%), at 2350ppm/day.
8.2% of tests are positive - currently 8%.

Canada detections at 2923ppm ~ 85 days behind the US.
Detection rate at 18ppm/day ( and rising ).
Fatalities at 235ppm (0.3ppm/day)
FR 8.2% from a 2850ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Canadian tests performed total 93280ppm (9.3%), at 1170ppm/day .
3.1% of tests are positive - currently 1.5%.

Italian detections at 4043ppm.
Detection rate is 4ppm/day (possibly steadying around 3ppm)
Fatalities at 579ppm (0.2ppm/day)
FR 14.4% from a 4020ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Italian tests performed total 103570ppm (10.3%), at 710ppm/day.
3.9% of tests are positive - currently 0.6%.

Sweden detections at 7652ppm.
Detection rate is 33ppm/day. (possibly steady around 40ppm/day)
Fatalities at 556ppm (1.3ppm/day)
FR is 7.5% from a 7416ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Sweden tests performed unreported, at 1160ppm/day
unknown tests are positive - currently 2.8%.

UK detections at 4342ppm.
Detection rate is 11ppm/day (possibly steady around 11ppm)
Fatalities at 667ppm (1.0ppm/day)
FR is 15.6% from a 4266ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
UK tests performed total 118580ppm (11.9%), at 1810ppm/day.
3.7% of tests are positive - currently 0.6%

Brazil detections at 9872ppm.
Detection rate is 110ppm/day and unstable
Fatalities at 374ppm (8.6ppm/day)
FR is 4.3% from an 8773ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Brazilian test performed not reported
No test detection rate is possible.

Peru detections at 10724ppm
Detection rate is 124ppm/day (possibly steady around 120ppm)
Fatalities at 400ppm (5.7ppm/day)
FR is 4.0% from a 9897ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Peru tests performed were 9900ppm (1.0%) at 150ppm/day.
No test detection rate is possible - currently at 83%.

Mexico detections at 2670ppm
Detection rate is 41ppm/day
Fatalities at 304ppm (2.3ppm/day)
FR is 13.1% from a 2325ppm detection recorded 7 days previously.
Mexico tests performed were 5670ppm (0.6%), at 70ppm/day
47% of tests are positive - currently 59%.

Chile detections at 17311ppm (1.7%)
Detection rate is 230ppm/day and unstable.
Fatalities at 449ppm (10ppm/day)
FR is 2.9% from 15460ppm detection recorded 14 days previously.
Chile tests performed total 74300 (7.4%), at 820ppm/day.
23% of tests are positive - currently 28%.

RL

 

[gray_wolf]

On 20/07/2020 8:48 pm, Cydrome Leader wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On 15 Jul 2020 14:32:46 GMT, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
One of my most common causes of writing ECOs against new designs is
that the LEDs are too bright. Gotta do that again today.

It is even more true for blue leds than for green. When a device
has a blue indicator LED, it usually is far too bright. Both my PC
and my router have indicator lights that, when not taped over, cause
a large blue spot to appear on the opposite wall.

Blue seems to annoy people. As LEDs got better, we got complaints from
users, and had to reduce currents. The first blue LEDs, the SiC Crees,
were about right for a panel indicator at 50 mA. Now 1 mA is a bit
bright.

The original SiC Crees had a really nice light blue color too. I still
have one or two samples. They looked unique, like the 1970s or older era
deep red LEDs.

I was reading something the other day about the blue LEDs being harmful to humans.

 

[gray_wolf]

On 20/07/2020 8:48 pm, Cydrome Leader wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On 15 Jul 2020 14:32:46 GMT, Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
One of my most common causes of writing ECOs against new designs is
that the LEDs are too bright. Gotta do that again today.

It is even more true for blue leds than for green. When a device
has a blue indicator LED, it usually is far too bright. Both my PC
and my router have indicator lights that, when not taped over, cause
a large blue spot to appear on the opposite wall.

Blue seems to annoy people. As LEDs got better, we got complaints from
users, and had to reduce currents. The first blue LEDs, the SiC Crees,
were about right for a panel indicator at 50 mA. Now 1 mA is a bit
bright.

The original SiC Crees had a really nice light blue color too. I still
have one or two samples. They looked unique, like the 1970s or older era
deep red LEDs.

I was reading something the other day about the blue LEDs being harmful to humans.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 5:00:48 AM UTC+10, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 20/07/20 19:44, bitrex wrote:
On 7/20/2020 2:34 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 20/07/20 19:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/20/2020 12:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 20/07/20 16:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:29:29 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 20/07/20 14:52, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:42:36 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 20/07/20 01:52, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 08:29:35 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/07/20 00:23, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:32:33 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 16/07/20 21:42, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:54:54 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 16/07/20 15:32, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:42:56 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 16/07/20 14:26, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:28:17 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 16/07/20 06:32, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>

Nonetheless, I sometimes wish I had been a master-of-Xerox-
toner-mechanisms, for example.

A curious resonance. My interview for the first job I got after I\'d finished my Ph.D. included the question \"how does a Xerox machine work\".

I told them - selenium coated drum, coroana charged, exposed to optical image, no charge left in illuminated areas, while the charged areas pick up plastic coated carbon black dust from an air bath, which is then squeezed off onto paper, and fixed by warming the paper enough to melt the plastic.

The response was \"you\'ve got the job\" which wasn\'t entirely serious, though I did. I spent most of my time working on unconventional high speed printers for a military digital fax system - part of Project Mallard, which was going to be a joint US,UK, Canadian and Australian digital communications network for their military forces, until the US defence contractors found out about it and realised that it would give some of their market to UK, Canadian and Australian manufacturers, prompting them to get their US congressmen to kill it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

I made my bed, and I\'m happy lying in it.


Yeah they\'re are a lot of newly-minted EEs that can\'t design circuits or know
what a transistor is but they\'ll get hired. some geek off the street who can do
it is not intrinsically exciting to anyone there. Not been my experience so far,
at least...

If they can\'t design /and/ can\'t analyse, then it
is difficult for me to regard them as engineers.
But there\'s nothing intrinsically wrong with being
a project manager or salesman, provided the engineer
is top dog