Chip with simple program for Toy

[notbob]

On 2006-07-05, Eric R Snow <etpm@whidbey.com> wrote:

Though the Fluke meters are expensive I don't think they are
overpriced. It's one of those tools that really is worth the money.

The high price of Fluke is for their quality and robustness. Every
other meter brand I've used is not robust enough to handle prolonged
heavy use. B&K, Triplette, etc, all break under heavy use. One of
the most common points of failure are the test lead connector sockets.
I've tossed many a DMM due to continuity failure at the sockets.
Never a Fluke. I'll be willing my Fluke to my kids.

If Fluke has a failing, it's their failure to support older equipment.
Their stuff is so good it last forever and they will often quit
providing accessories for discontinued models. Also, some of their
accessories have not matched the quality of their meters. They used
to have some extremely handy spring-steel extendable test leads that
were almost guaranteed to break due to poor design and the breakable
part was not replaceable. But, for their few shortcomings, they're
still the best meters on the market, regardless of price.

nb

 

[JeffM]

was: about High quality pcb prototype manufacture(Low Price)

t2531998@126.com wrote:

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[JeffM]

was: Cell Phone Information Site

Chris wrote:
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[Peter Bennett]

On 17 Jul 2006 09:17:33 -0700, mike7411@gmail.com wrote:

Is all telephone cable wiring of the stranded variety?

I would like to get some and splice into it to, but I would prefer not
to work with stranded wire.

Any permanent wiring (inside the walls) will likely be solid wire, but
any portable cables (phone to wall outlet) should be stranded to
survive the flexing they experience.


--
Peter Bennett VE7CEI
email: peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info and programs: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html
Newsgroup new user info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq

 

[Alan B]

On 17 Jul 2006 09:17:33 -0700, in message
<1153153053.599765.262420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, mike7411@gmail.com
scribed:

Is all telephone cable wiring of the stranded variety?

Actually, hardly any of it is. Just the indoor stuff, pre-plugged, as
Peter said.

I would like to get some and splice into it to, but I would prefer not
to work with stranded wire.

Discarded sections of 25-pair telephone cable are great for getting wire to
breadboard with. Um, you're not thinking of splicing into active wiring,
are you?

--
Love is like a dying ember
And only memories remain
And through the ages I'll remember
Blue eyes cryin' in the rain

 

[msg]

Hans-Bernhard Broeker wrote:

Or do you really think that all the manufacturers of low-power-usage
electronic equipment out there use wall warts just for the perverse
fun of crowding up your power bars? The wall wart became a design
pattern for a reason: it hits an almost perfect equilibrium between
cost, usability, safety and reliability.

I think the reason is heavily weighted for liability costs control;
and it is perverse when a 'pigtail' mains cord could have been
standard issue on wall wart inputs to alleviate the crowding.

Many of us learned on vacuum tubes where the plate supply was an
order of magnitude more lethal than any mains voltage one might
encounter.

"Many" of us may indeed have learned that way. But odds that the OP
is among them are plainly negligible. If that guy had been around
since tubes were taught, he wouldn't have had to ask what he did.

I would hope 'she' (Alison) will reply; I had inferred from some of
her earlier posts that she has been in that world.

Regards,

Michael

 

[Paul Carpenter]

On 17 Jul, in article <4i2if2F1svm4U1@news.dfncis.de>
broeker@physik.rwth-aachen.de "Hans-Bernhard Broeker" wrote:

In comp.arch.embedded Byron A Jeff <byron@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
In article <hckhb2l6fvnvibsv19cdmmp674a7c7tqs6@4ax.com>,
default <none@nobody.net> wrote:

There's no question that a wall wart is safer than a non-isolated
supply, for some applications.

....
Or do you really think that all the manufacturers of low-power-usage
electronic equipment out there use wall warts just for the perverse
fun of crowding up your power bars? The wall wart became a design
pattern for a reason: it hits an almost perfect equilibrium between
cost, usability, safety and reliability.

Some of the major reasons for using a wall wart are

1) EU and some other areas state that all equipment must be
supplied with the correct mains plug already wired up.
(the fact that even more people cannot rewire a plug safely
has not been recognised, we now have more peoplr coming
through who do not understand mains wiring colour coding
and related issues)=.

2) Cost of manufacturing different models for different mains
voltage.

3) Size of the unit the consumer is buying is smaller.

4) Other safety or similar issues are not the primary concern
the three above are, except that the appliance has to have
less safety measures.

In most cases the power efficiency and how much heat these wall warts
generate, is amazing. If more effort was put into using more power efficient
wall warts, I am sure we would save more electricity generation than
turning all the TVs off instead of standby.


--
Paul Carpenter | paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk
<http://www.pcserviceselectronics.co.uk/> PC Services
<http://www.gnuh8.org.uk/> GNU H8 & mailing list info
<http://www.badweb.org.uk/> For those web sites you hate

 

[default]

On 17 Jul 2006 22:49:06 GMT, Hans-Bernhard Broeker
<broeker@physik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:

Or do you really think that all the manufacturers of low-power-usage
electronic equipment out there use wall warts just for the perverse
fun of crowding up your power bars?

Yes!

The wall wart became a design
pattern for a reason: it hits an almost perfect equilibrium between
cost, usability, safety and reliability.

Wall warts also make getting safety certification easier - don't have

to submit the device for approval, just the already approved wall wart
you bought from some other manufacturer. They make a cheap and dirty
way to make a device universally powered.

And they probably waste a lot of energy. Perhaps as the switching
wall warts become smaller, more bullet proof, and more efficient, I'll
have to rethink my opinion.

But this vociferous reaction about how
dangerous it is - is just not justified.

Yes it is.

Fully seconded. If people need to be shouted at from a close distance
to avoid a realistic danger of accidentally electrocuting themselves
or other people, then by all means, let's get them shouted at.
Violent explanation never seriously hurt anyone --- violent
electricity does. A much more brutal, hands-on approach (such as:
showing the apprentice a realistic electrocution accident on video)
would be even better, but we can't do that over the internet.

Depends on personality and conditioning - I find I tend to ignore
yelling, shouting, advertising, appeals to emotion, or just
"background noise," and tend to pay more attention to an appeal to
reason.

Many of us learned on vacuum tubes where the plate supply was an
order of magnitude more lethal than any mains voltage one might
encounter.

"Many" of us may indeed have learned that way. But odds that the OP
is among them are plainly negligible. If that guy had been around
since tubes were taught, he wouldn't have had to ask what he did.

Yeah, have to agree. I read the original post again, and he's talking
about using a PIC for this?

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[John Fields]

On 18 Jul 2006 01:47:58 -0700, love.churchfriends@gmail.com wrote:

Happy Artistic/intellectual type.Independent,optimistic,strong-minded
but soft-hearted. Animal lover. Lifelong learner with boundless
curiosity. Interested in almost everything; still studying and seeking.
Background in art and literature.

Many interests: art, crafts, nature, natural history, wild
plants,gardening, bird-watching, country life. Politics, music(mostly
classical), live theatre, concerts, reading on a wide variety of
subjects; cooking (more fun when shared). Creativity and the life of
the mind are important to me.

I am peace-loving and gentle, rather quiet, but love meeting people and
engage readily with most.I am a practicing Anglican and that is an
important part of my life. I try to live an authentic, sane, simple and
healthy life, aware of spiritual and environmental issues and with a
sense of responsibility towards others.

In spite of being a thinker with a "serious" attitude to life, I am
'young at heart' and have a ready sense of humour. Friends say I am fun
to be with. I laugh easily. I dislike conflict and love harmony. I
prefer a quiet life. I love language, am articulate and sometimes quite
talkative. I enjoy good conversation but can also be silent for a long
time when engaged in something that interests me.

I place a high value on friendship and am loyal and devoted to those I
care for. I love getting together with friends, but dislike big noisy
parties.

I am truthful and detest superficiality, snobbery, pretentiousness and
dishonesty of any kind. I dislike vulgarity and bad language. I am not
a prude, but have been described as "dignified" and "refined.
I am tall, slender and fit. I look younger than my age. I am
semi-vegetarian and enjoy preparing fresh, healthy meals.

I am a natural sort of woman; I wear very little make-up and I like
casual, comfortable clothes. I do not enjoy getting "tarted up." I do
not smoke and drink just the occasional glass of wine with a good
dinner.

http://www.aboutme.com/users/sexysingle/Lucky.htm

---
Do ya like to fuck?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[PeteS]

MonicaWhitty wrote:

Dear list,

I am looking for people to complete my short (5 minute) survey at:
http://tinyurl.com/pt7yw


The project examines how individuals in different countries use their
work computers and/or laptop computers. It also asks how they protect
their
work computers and/or laptops from security risks.

Anyone 18 years or older living in the UK, USA, Australia, Singapore,
or the Netherlands are invited to fill out this short survey.

The survey can be found:
http://tinyurl.com/pt7yw


We expect to complete the study by Nov/Dec 2006 and a summary of the
results will be displayed on my website:
http://www.psych.qub.ac.uk/staff/teaching/whitty/profile/index.aspx

The study has been approved by Queen's University Belfast Research
Ethics Committee.

Also, if you would be so kind as to ask friends, colleagues, and family
to answer the survey I would really appreciate it!

Kind Regards,

Dr. Monica Whitty
Queen's University Belfast
m.whitty@qub.ac.uk

Try posting the actual URL instead of a redirect.

http://weblab.org.uk/cgi-bin/surfcontrol/page1f.pl

Denizen analysis of page invited

I hit it with scripting disabled (from Firefox)

Cheers

PeteS

 

[Don Bruder]

<snip>

--
Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist,
or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow"
somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my
ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more info

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:17:33 -0700, mike7411 wrote:

Is all telephone cable wiring of the stranded variety?

I would like to get some and splice into it to, but I would prefer not
to work with stranded wire.

In a word, no. I once went to Home Depot and got some jacketed 4-
conductor #24 solid, with red, green, black, and yellow wires. This is
intended for internal phone circuit wiring.

100' was about six bucks.

Have Fun!
Rich

 

[Ban]

temp@temp.com wrote:

Greetings All
Need help amplifying Pulse Train to drive Pen Laser

I would like to create a pulse train using my sound card and cooledit
pro (creating square waves) but I don't think I have enough power to
drive my ULN2003A Darlington Transistor Array
(http://www.chipcatalog.com/TI/ULN2003A.htm) can anybody recommend a
way to boost the voltage/current/power so I can drive my ULN2003A
chip, I'm trying to make it very portable, is their a small chip that
will allow me amplify my audio signal/pulse train?

For those of you who are interested this is what I intend to do.
1) Create various pulse trains by creating square waves in cool edit
pro
2) Saving audio file as wav or mp3 onto my iRiver iFP 799T mp3 player
3) Using mp3 player with square wave audio pulse trains to drive my
ULN2003A
4) Have ULN2003a and 3V battery power/pulse a small pen laser less
than 5mW

removed crossposted groups

Take just a low sat BJT instead, it needs only half the voltage. You also
need a Schottky diode antiparallel to the b/e junction to avoid charging up
the output capacitor and an appropriate current limiting resistor, maybe 33R
before.
--
ciao Ban
Apricale, Italy

 

[PeteS]

Ben Jackson wrote:

On 2006-07-24, John <jmuchow@SPAMMENOTcamlight.com> wrote:
My problem is that even
rail-to-rail DACs only go down to a few millivolts, not true zero

I can't tell if your problem is that you can't hit zero or that
you just can't get *close enough* to zero. In other words, is
the code '1' too high (or too coarse) or is '0' too high for '0'.

If you want to scale the output ('0' still not 0V, but '1' lower
and each step finer) then an output divider is fine. However, mind
the input impedance of your next stage. If you are relying on a
buffer built into the DAC to drive your next stage, the relatively
high output impedance resistor divider is going to need another
buffer. That buffer, even if *IT* is rail-to-rail is going to cause
you more offset/scale problems near 0 again.

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD
ben@ben.com
http://www.ben.com/

-5V (or -3.3) is easily achievable with a small device and a few caps
using a charge pump device. For low currents, it's easy to get a
regulated voltage.

See the LM2660 as an example
http://www.national.com/VCatalog/view.cgi?command=sumEq&attr1=Bpn%3BLM2660&attr2=0&q=25&m0=Category&i=PNumber&s1=PNumber%2F%2F1&s0=Switching+Frequency%2F%2F0&a3=Adj+Switch+Frequency%2F%2Fv%3A8&a1=SubCategory%2F%2Fv%3A8&a0=Category%2F%2Fv%3A8&s=524264040540&a2=Switching+Frequency%2F%2Fv%3A8&a5=Output+Voltage%2F%2Fv%3A8&t=0&a7=InputMin+Voltage%2F%2Fv%3A8&a6=InputMax+Voltage%2F%2Fv%3A8&m1=SubCategory&c1=e%3A0%2F%2FSubCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FSwitchedCapacitor+Converters&c0=e%3A0%2F%2FCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FAnalog+-+Regulators&m2=Bpn&a4=Output+Current%2F%2Fv%3A8&as=0&render=1&c=&domains=PNumber

Cheers

PeteS

 

[John]

I can't tell if your problem is that you can't hit zero or that
you just can't get *close enough* to zero. In other words, is
the code '1' too high (or too coarse) or is '0' too high for '0'.

The latter.

If you want to scale the output ('0' still not 0V, but '1' lower
and each step finer) then an output divider is fine. However, mind
the input impedance of your next stage. If you are relying on a
buffer built into the DAC to drive your next stage, the relatively
high output impedance resistor divider is going to need another
buffer. That buffer, even if *IT* is rail-to-rail is going to cause
you more offset/scale problems near 0 again.

Awww...crap, forgot about that.
Will look at circuit again...time for some more prototyping!
May just have to generate neg voltage for use by DAC.

Thanks!
-- remove SPAMMENOT for e-mail responses --

 

* wrote:

Given the current heat wave running coast-to-coast across the entire
USA.......

......how does self-avowed "expert" Paul Milligan manage to find the time
to provide so many sarcastic non-answers?

Aren't the "real" HVAC/R guys too busy out there to be found on this board
at all hours of the day?

Friends of mine who are in the HVAC/R business are working 16 hour days
trying to keep up. You can bet they don't have the time to SPAM newsgroups
with absolutely useless drivel.

"Expert" Milligan seems to have ample free time to provide his caustic
comments at all hours of the day.

Is his reputation so bad that people won't even employ him during the most
extreme times of need, forcing him to camp out at his keyboard?

How could ANYBODY buy the product(s) he is SPAMMING here with any degree of
confidence - given the apparent lack of knowledge and hands-on experience
he exhibits here.

He aint no turtle...thats for sure

 

FiveTwoAlphaOne wrote:

You gotta wonder what those UN observers saw that they
had to be eliminated.

After repeatedly being shelled and contacting the Israelis
to stop shelling them, the Israeli Airforce dropped a
precision bomb right on them. When other, equally unarmed
UN observers went to try and rescue them, they were
attacked as well.

--
MikeOscarPapa

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

web2search@aol.com wrote:

On issue after issue I have been ashamed of my president.

He lied about Iraq, and still lies. 2,500 of our citizens have been
killed, and our national money treasure has been squandered on an
adventure that not only was started falsely, but will continue and end
disastrously. Why he has done this to us is a mystery. It appears that
his immature understanding of the world allowed the neo-cons in his
administration (generally the code word for Jews who ardently support
Israel) to sell him lies in order to get a massive attack on Iraq. They
believed that Israel would be helped. Your tax dollars and son's blood
at work! How many Jews have died in this war on behalf of Israel? I am
ashamed.

His immaturity stirred up the North Koreans, and his immature refusal
to talk has pushed the Syrians and Iranians into a corner. He is making
things much worse for us. The world has watched our arrogance and has
come to mistrust and hate us even more. I am ashamed.

He has used my Christian born-again faith to justify much of what he
has done, and even now has talked about some kind of messianic purpose
in his fight against terrorists on behalf of Israel. How dare he use
the name of Christ to murder. I am ashamed.

And now today I believe that he really hatched this Israeli attack on
Lebanon. He is rushing, as I write, devastating 5,000 lb bombs to
Israel. How many children's blood, and other innocents, will be
splattered with our tax dollars at work in Lebanon? I heard an
administration spokesman this morning say, "We support the Israei
attack completely. After all, they are fighting the terrorists for us".
Since 1982 when they tried to drive our troops our of Lebanon, they
have not hurt an American. And they have never hurt an American in
America. So I say bullshit to this argument. I am ashamed.

And then there are the Palestinians. Those awful people. They just
can't accept that Israel took all of their land, homes, jobs, orchards.
So what if they live in a virtual prison with nothing, nothing,
nothing. So when they are bad little boys and girls, America MUST send
drones to fire rockets at them. This morning a 3 year old girl was
blasted, beyond recognition as a human, by our tax dollars at work. I
am ashamed. They have nothing, nothing, nothing. If Jesus were alive
today, would he be visiting the power centers in Jerusalem, or the
slums of Gaza. I know where MY savior would be. I am ashamed. I am
ashamed. I am ashamed.

Must be an electronics "technician"...*cough*.....must be hard having
your lifetime of work replaced by a dumpster......I guess there is work
for your worthless skills at radio shack helping people choose the
right battery for their flashlight.

 

Voter wrote:

Applauding While Lebanon Burns
by Norman Solomon


Syndicated columnist Richard Cohen declared in the Washington Post on
Tuesday that an-eye-for-an-eye would be a hopelessly wimpy policy for the
Israeli government.

"Anyone who knows anything about the Middle East knows that proportionality
is madness," he wrote. "For Israel, a small country within reach, as we are
finding out, of a missile launched from any enemy's back yard,
proportionality is not only inapplicable, it is suicide. The last thing it
needs is a war of attrition. It is not good enough to take out this or that
missile battery. It is necessary to reestablish deterrence: You slap me, I
will punch out your lights."

Cohen likes to sit in front of a computer and use flip phrases like "punch
out your lights" as euphemisms for burning human flesh and bones with
high-tech weapons, courtesy of American taxpayers.

In mid-November 1998, when President Clinton canceled plans for air attacks
on Iraq after Saddam Hussein promised full cooperation with UN weapons
inspectors, Cohen wrote: "Something is out of balance here. The Clinton
administration waited too long to act. It needed to punch out Iraq's
lights, and it did not do so."

The resort to euphemism tells us a lot. So does Cohen's track record of
sweeping statements on behalf of his zeal for military actions funded by
the US Treasury.

On February 6, 2003, the Washington Post published Richard Cohen's judgment
the morning after Colin Powell made his televised presentation to the UN
Security Council. "The evidence he presented to the United Nations -- some
of it circumstantial, some of it absolutely bone-chilling in its detail --
had to prove to anyone that Iraq not only hasn't accounted for its weapons
of mass destruction but without a doubt still retains them," Cohen wrote.
"Only a fool -- or possibly a Frenchman -- could conclude otherwise."

Cohen's moral certainties are on a par with his technical ones. While he
condemns rockets fired into Israel, he expresses pleasure about missiles
fired by the Israeli government. That the death toll of civilians is far
higher from Israel's weaponry does not appear to bother him. On the
contrary, he seems glad about the killing spree by the Israeli military.

In a column with bigoted overtones ("Israel is, as I have often said,
unfortunately located, gentrifying a pretty bad neighborhood"), Cohen's
eagerness to support additional large-scale bombing by Israel is thematic.
Consider this passage: "Hezbollah, with the aid of Iran and Syria, has
shown that it is no longer necessary to send a dazed suicide bomber over
the border -- all that is needed is the requisite amount of thrust and a
warhead. That being the case, it's either stupid or mean for anyone to call
for proportionality. The only way to ensure that babies don't die in their
cribs and old people in the streets is to make the Lebanese or the
Palestinians understand that if they, no matter how reluctantly, host those
rockets, they will pay a very, very steep price."

Such phrasing is classic evasion by keyboard cheerleaders for war: "The"
Lebanese. "The" Palestinians. "They will pay a very, very steep price."
Meanwhile, in the real world, the vast majority of the victims of the
Israeli onslaught are civilians being subjected to collective punishment.

Cohen -- like so many others in the American punditocracy -- depicts the
death of an Israeli civilian as far more tragic and important than the
death of an Arab civilian.

There's something really sick about such righteous support for civilian
death and destruction.

Osama bin Laden, meet Richard Cohen.

Richard, meet Osama.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0726-21.htm
Norman Solomon is the author of the new book "War Made Easy: How Presidents
and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death." For information, go to:
www.WarMadeEasy.com

Toss Cohen in a pizza oven for about 12 hours and he would learn some
compassion.

 

[nntp.aioe.org]

<cornytheclown@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153953569.978669.227170@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

* wrote:
Given the current heat wave running coast-to-coast across the entire
USA.......

......how does self-avowed "expert" Paul Milligan manage to find the time
to provide so many sarcastic non-answers?

Aren't the "real" HVAC/R guys too busy out there to be found on this
board
at all hours of the day?

Friends of mine who are in the HVAC/R business are working 16 hour days
trying to keep up. You can bet they don't have the time to SPAM
newsgroups
with absolutely useless drivel.

"Expert" Milligan seems to have ample free time to provide his caustic
comments at all hours of the day.

Is his reputation so bad that people won't even employ him during the
most
extreme times of need, forcing him to camp out at his keyboard?

How could ANYBODY buy the product(s) he is SPAMMING here with any degree
of
confidence - given the apparent lack of knowledge and hands-on experience
he exhibits here.

He aint no turtle...thats for sure

He ain't no HVAC tech either.....that's for sure.