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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:17:43 -0000, Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:12:35 -0000, Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



ah wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
It's true. There are no fuses in plugs over there.

Yup. Totally unnecessary . . . there's already a fuse on both ends (panel and
appliance).

The fuse in a UK plug allows the safe use of cables with less current rating than the fuse in
the 'panel' ! No other way is truly safe.

Next debate - plugs that pull out when you yank the cord, or not?

That would make sense.

Did you know that in the UK more ppl are injured by treading on upturned mains plugs than get
electrocuted.
That's bloody sore! Are you being serious or making a joke?

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On 2005-11-29, r2000swler@hotmail.com <r2000swler@hotmail.com> wrote:
Jasen Betts wrote:
What matters is the speed of light in the dielectric *between* the
conductors. That's where the traveling electromagnetic wave is.

So if all we have is a bare wire no current can flow?

noot sure what you mean:

1 > air is a dielectric (ie generally non-conductive)

2 > a solitary bare wire is an antenna, not a transmission line :)



Bye.
Jasen
++++++++++++++++++++++

Have you ever heard of a G-line?
actually I have it, (I recall seeing a picture in some book)
it occurred to me shortly after hitting "send"

Or do a net search for G-line antenna way too many hits to list.
Is it an antenna or a transmission line?

They really work. The loss is less then that of comparable ladder line
and way
less then 300 ohm ribbon or coax. Even though I have installed several,
I still
Don't the function sort of like a coax with an infinite outer diameter?

Bye.
Jasen
 
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John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:12:35 +0000, Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

The fuse in a UK plug allows the safe use of cables with less current
rating than the fuse in the 'panel' ! No other way is truly safe.

---
Are they avaialable with different ratings?

3, 5, 10 and 13 Amp fuses are the commonly available types.

Graham

LIES!
It is because of Graham "NetKKKoping Cunt" Stevenson that I installed the
wrong fuse and blew my ring main! Now I need to get out an engineer to
service my fuse box!

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John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:12:35 +0000, Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

The fuse in a UK plug allows the safe use of cables with less
current rating than the fuse in the 'panel' ! No other way is truly
safe.

---
Are they avaialable with different ratings?

3, 5, 10 and 13 Amp fuses are the commonly available types.

Graham

LIES!

It is because of Graham "NetKKKoping Cunt" Stevenson that I installed
the wrong fuse and blew my ring main! Now I need to get out an engineer
to service my fuse box!
Damn, I can't see anything to go on there.

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Peter Hucker wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:20:03 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:57:34 -0000, Mr Pounder <Mr <Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:


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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:59:37 -0000, Mr Pounder <Mr
Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:


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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:46:12 -0000, Mr Pounder <Mr
Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:

Off for a nosy.
I wish that I the time that you have.

I entered the group to ask a question about LED brightness, and
accidentally started a nuclear war.

"Accidentally"?

I mentioned that someone was being unsafe using an unfused (!) extension
cord, at which point an American said they are all like that over there,
which I said was insane, etc.

Somehow I think the American must be wrong.
Ok, they are on 110 volts I believe, but even so!

It's true. There are no fuses in plugs over there.

Yup. Totally unnecessary . . . there's already a fuse on both ends (panel and
appliance).

A fuse IN the appliance? By panel I assume you mean the main fusebox of the house - if so, that is not a protection. You could have a 40 watt tablelamp running off a 30 amp socket circuit.
Your linewrap is too long for demon.local
--
ah
 
Cliff wrote:
But if I stick a few in one end of a long wire a few others
want to pop out the other end quite quickly.
--
Cliff

That's because electrons are very anti-social creatures.

--
?

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Central Florida
 
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John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:12:35 +0000, Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

The fuse in a UK plug allows the safe use of cables with less
current rating than the fuse in the 'panel' ! No other way is truly
safe.

---
Are they avaialable with different ratings?

3, 5, 10 and 13 Amp fuses are the commonly available types.

Graham

LIES!

It is because of Graham "NetKKKoping Cunt" Stevenson that I installed
the wrong fuse and blew my ring main! Now I need to get out an engineer
to service my fuse box!

Damn, I can't see anything to go on there.
I recommend a toilet.

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2> Newly Ennobled 13th November 2005
3> Cost of Nobility: Ł150,000
4> Contact T. Blair of 10 Downing Street
5> for further details
 
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:34:06 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:20:03 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:57:34 -0000, Mr Pounder <Mr <Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:


"Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:
cord, at which point an American said they are all like that over there,
which I said was insane, etc.

Somehow I think the American must be wrong.
Ok, they are on 110 volts I believe, but even so!

It's true. There are no fuses in plugs over there.

Yup. Totally unnecessary . . . there's already a fuse on both ends (panel and
appliance).

A fuse IN the appliance? By panel I assume you mean the main fusebox of the house - if so, that is not a protection. You could have a 40 watt tablelamp running off a 30 amp socket circuit.

Your linewrap is too long for demon.local
Fuck demon.local.

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John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:12:35 +0000, Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

The fuse in a UK plug allows the safe use of cables with less
current rating than the fuse in the 'panel' ! No other way is
truly safe.

---
Are they avaialable with different ratings?

3, 5, 10 and 13 Amp fuses are the commonly available types.

Graham

LIES!

It is because of Graham "NetKKKoping Cunt" Stevenson that I installed
the wrong fuse and blew my ring main! Now I need to get out an
engineer to service my fuse box!

Damn, I can't see anything to go on there.

I recommend a toilet.
That reminds me of a joke.

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so that Helene can actually become a coon ?"
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Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:34:06 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:20:03 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:57:34 -0000, Mr Pounder <Mr <Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:


"Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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Pounder@rationalthought.com>> wrote:
cord, at which point an American said they are all like that over there,
which I said was insane, etc.

Somehow I think the American must be wrong.
Ok, they are on 110 volts I believe, but even so!

It's true. There are no fuses in plugs over there.

Yup. Totally unnecessary . . . there's already a fuse on both ends (panel and
appliance).

A fuse IN the appliance? By panel I assume you mean the main fusebox of the house - if so, that is not a protection. You could have a 40 watt tablelamp running off a 30 amp socket circuit.

Your linewrap is too long for demon.local

Fuck demon.local.
You'll not be warned.
--
ah
 
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:13:18 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:36:30 -0500, Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:57:08 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

there's some current

Indeed.

You excised "for a little while".
What's wrong with Physics?

You, sir, are demonstrating most of the characteristics of an idiot.
By posting a seeming clear counterexample to the blanket statement?

Well, if there were no current at all someone else might be
correct instead <G>.

Good-bye.
Was that you? About magical static?
--
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:41:19 GMT, NunYa Bidness
<nunyabidness@nunyabidness.org> wrote:

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:13:18 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> Gave
us:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:36:30 -0500, Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:57:08 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

there's some current

Indeed.

You excised "for a little while".

You, sir, are demonstrating most of the characteristics of an idiot.

Good-bye.


Ahh... so you ARE the weakest dink!

Hahahaha...
<G>
--
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:18:50 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:34:06 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:20:03 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Yup. Totally unnecessary . . . there's already a fuse on both ends (panel and
appliance).

A fuse IN the appliance? By panel I assume you mean the main fusebox of the house - if so, that is not a protection. You could have a 40 watt tablelamp running off a 30 amp socket circuit.

Your linewrap is too long for demon.local

Fuck demon.local.

You'll not be warned.
You just did.

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On 2005-11-30, Fred Abse <excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:31:11 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2005-11-27, Fred Abse <excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:14:25 -0330, Gary wrote:

David wrote:

snip

Characteristic impedance and DC resistance are the same if the line is
infinitely long and unterminated.

Bullshit.

If you mean by "DC resistance", the impedance you would see at the input
of an infinitely long line, it's not bullshit, it's perfectly true, even
if the line is made of zero-resistance conductors. You'll just see the
line's characteristic impedance.

what about lines made of copper and plastic?

Most are :)
I asked because the above specifically mentioned superconductors...

ISTM that a few hundered kilometers if RG59 is going to measure more
than 75 ohms even with far end is shorted.

There's no way an infinite length will have a lower resistance.

Run the LTSpice simulation below, three cases of 1000 miles of RG59-U,
terminated. shorted, and open at 1 MHz. You'll find all 3 cases look like
75 ohms. Constants are per Belden data.
I was talking DC resisitance, 1MHz is a funny kind of DC...


Bye.
Jasen
 
Peter Hucker wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:18:50 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:34:06 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:20:03 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Yup. Totally unnecessary . . . there's already a fuse on both ends (panel and
appliance).

A fuse IN the appliance? By panel I assume you mean the main fusebox of the house - if so, that is not a protection. You could have a 40 watt tablelamp running off a 30 amp socket circuit.

Your linewrap is too long for demon.local

Fuck demon.local.

You'll not be warned.

You just did.
Don't make me come over there.
--
ah
 
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:18:09 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:18:50 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:34:06 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Your linewrap is too long for demon.local

Fuck demon.local.

You'll not be warned.

You just did.

Don't make me come over there.
Come over here.

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Peter Hucker wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:18:09 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:18:50 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:34:06 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

Your linewrap is too long for demon.local

Fuck demon.local.

You'll not be warned.

You just did.

Don't make me come over there.

Come over here.
The helicopter will arrive shortly--I expect tea.
--
ah
 
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:25:12 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:18:09 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 01:18:50 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

You'll not be warned.

You just did.

Don't make me come over there.

Come over here.

The helicopter will arrive shortly--I expect tea.
TEA????? Are you English or something? You will be served beer and fucking well like it.

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Soldier: Sure, buddy.
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:55:16 -0000,
Jasen Betts <jasen@free.net.nospam.nz> wrote
in Msg. <1738.438bfb54.4fc19@clunker.homenet>
On 2005-11-27, David <rickets@knac.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:55:16 -0330, Gary <g.h@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Characteristic impedance and DC resistance are the same if the line is
infinitely long and unterminated.

if it was infinitely long wouldn't the
the termionation would make no difference for all proctical purposes.
I like the combination of "infinitely long" and "for all practical
purposes" in one sentence.

But yes, you're right.

robert
 

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