Chip with simple program for Toy

[Active8]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:20:34 GMT, Bob Masta wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:50:47 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net
wrote:

Hey China. Start buying more stuff from the US.

Ahhh, *besides* T-bills. At the rate China is buying up
US debt, we are losing any semblance of influence over
them. And at the rate Dubya is running up debt in his
quest to make the world safe for Big Business, he may
just as well mail the keys to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
over to Bejing.

clinton already did that as well as emasculating our special forces
and CT capabilities, but I've been hearing ugly shit about bush and
if it's true, I'm disappointed. Too many biases to discover the
truth unless... I guess I'd have to read the congressional records
or something. I'm so happy I could sheisse, not.

www.daqarta.com
--

Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Rikard Bosnjakovic]

Active8 wrote:

When you reply to a x-posted article, does your reader warn you that
you're x-posting?

No

When you reply to this, do you get a warning that a followup flag
was set?

No

Does your reader automatically honor the followup flag, i.e., only
set the groups line to that followup group?

Yes.

What's your reader?

Mozilla News

Do you give a damn?

Not really, but I guess I should. Or atleast should bugreport it.


--
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Anyone sending unwanted advertising e-mail to my address will be
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[Tom Biasi]

Don't feed the trolls. He got run out of aus.electronics, I guess he is
trying this end of the world now.

 

[Fred Abse]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:48:03 -0500, Active8 wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:17:06 +0000, Fred Abse wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:30:17 -0500, Active8 wrote:

Followups to SEB, please.

When you reply to a x-posted article, does your reader warn you that
you're x-posting?

Only if I forget to set followup.

The followup flag should have been set by the poster you're replying
to. <== f grammar.

<pedant mode>
"to which you are replying"
</pedant mode>



I think I was a bit too terse here. What happens is this:

If I reply to a cross-posted article which does not have followup set (as
many seem not to have), I get a warning "crossposting without setting
followup, do you want do do this?"

I suppose the same thing happens if I originally cross-post, but I don't
usually do that.

When you reply to this, do you get a warning that a followup flag was
set?

No.

What about when you click send? My fault, wrong original question.

Pan only warns if followup is not set, and silently honors the followup if
it is set.

<snip>

Pan, the only news client I know of to pass all GNKSA guidelines.

User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.90 (A Bouquet of Corpses) -- Rich has a gal
crawling across the kitchen table. I'll be sure to use it when ever I
get a current Linux.

I think you'll find I'm now the same as Rich, 0.14.2.91. I built a new one
at the weekend. There's been a different tag line for each version for
some time. The last but one was "This isn't a psychotic episode, it's a
cleansing moment of clarity". There is a Windows build out there, take a
look at http://pan.rebelbase.com/.

Oh, yes, Pan will recognize oddball quote characters, optionally mutes
quoted text, and drops signatures from quoted messages.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:30:17 -0500, Active8 wrote:

Followups to SEB, please.

When you reply to a x-posted article, does your reader warn you that
you're x-posting?

When you reply to this, do you get a warning that a followup flag was set?

Does your reader automatically honor the followup flag, i.e., only set the
groups line to that followup group?

What's your reader?

Pan, and it's only posting to s.e.b.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Active8]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:46 +0000, Fred Abse wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:48:03 -0500, Active8 wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:17:06 +0000, Fred Abse wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:30:17 -0500, Active8 wrote:

Followups to SEB, please.

When you reply to a x-posted article, does your reader warn you that
you're x-posting?

Only if I forget to set followup.

The followup flag should have been set by the poster you're replying
to. <== f grammar.

pedant mode
"to which you are replying"
/pedant mode

thus "f grammar" I should start *speaking* in pedant mode. Maybe
that will keep the neanderthals away.
<snip>

look at http://pan.rebelbase.com/.

Oh, yes, Pan will recognize oddball quote characters, optionally mutes
quoted text, and drops signatures from quoted messages.

Thanks. I missed that the first time. And no cygwin needed! I'm
going to give cygwin another try, though.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Active8]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:53 -0600, JazzMan wrote:

<snip>

is the cost of presensitized boards, they're fairly expensive.

You might look at think and tinker's dry-film. You can probably get
a wal-mart laminator to apply it, but I've only checked the temp on
my unit, so the jury's still out as to what modifications I'd need.

www.thinktink.com ??
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Rex]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:07 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net>
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:53 -0600, JazzMan wrote:

snip
is the cost of presensitized boards, they're fairly expensive.

You might look at think and tinker's dry-film. You can probably get
a wal-mart laminator to apply it, but I've only checked the temp on
my unit, so the jury's still out as to what modifications I'd need.

www.thinktink.com ??
--

I think the hard part is finding a cheap laminator that will accept the
thickness of a PCB. I tried this a few years ago and never got
dependable laminations of the dry film with the cheap laminator I tried
to use.

 

[Active8]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:12:20 GMT, Rex wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:07 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:53 -0600, JazzMan wrote:

snip
is the cost of presensitized boards, they're fairly expensive.

You might look at think and tinker's dry-film. You can probably get
a wal-mart laminator to apply it, but I've only checked the temp on
my unit, so the jury's still out as to what modifications I'd need.

www.thinktink.com ??
--

I think the hard part is finding a cheap laminator that will accept the
thickness of a PCB. I tried this a few years ago and never got
dependable laminations of the dry film with the cheap laminator I tried
to use.

What was the symptom? Did it mash your dryfilm? I ran a toner
transfer through it a couple of times and it worked. I think slowing
it down would allow me to do it in a single run. IIRC the laminators
sold for dry film apply pressure but don't remember how much.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Active8]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 05:55:16 -0500, Tom Biasi wrote:

Don't feed the trolls. He got run out of aus.electronics, I guess he is
trying this end of the world now.

I was right! My troll meter was pegged over that LED current thread
with the 1 ma || port.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Rex]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:14:05 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net>
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:12:20 GMT, Rex wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:21:07 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:19:53 -0600, JazzMan wrote:

snip
is the cost of presensitized boards, they're fairly expensive.

You might look at think and tinker's dry-film. You can probably get
a wal-mart laminator to apply it, but I've only checked the temp on
my unit, so the jury's still out as to what modifications I'd need.

www.thinktink.com ??
--

I think the hard part is finding a cheap laminator that will accept the
thickness of a PCB. I tried this a few years ago and never got
dependable laminations of the dry film with the cheap laminator I tried
to use.

What was the symptom? Did it mash your dryfilm? I ran a toner
transfer through it a couple of times and it worked. I think slowing
it down would allow me to do it in a single run. IIRC the laminators
sold for dry film apply pressure but don't remember how much.

At the time I think the cheapest ThinkTink laminator was over $300. I
bought a much cheaper one from a local office supply but it was not
designed to accept .031 thickness. I opened up the case and made some
mechanical mods to let it open up a bit wider. There were some screws to
adjust tension which I also made externally accessable.

As I recall, with mine, the laminate had kind of a wavy quality.
Probably uneven heat or pressure. The one I had did not have heated
rollers either -- it had a heating strip.

Bottom line... you get what you pay for and I tried to go cheap. Hard to
tell the mechanics of a laminator without opening it up and I think it
matters a lot for this application.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:46 +0000, Fred Abse wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:48:03 -0500, Active8 wrote:

I think you'll find I'm now the same as Rich, 0.14.2.91. I built a new
one at the weekend. There's been a different tag line for each version
for some time. The last but one was "This isn't a psychotic episode,
it's a cleansing moment of clarity". There is a Windows build out there,
take a look at http://pan.rebelbase.com/.

Oh, yes, Pan will recognize oddball quote characters, optionally mutes
quoted text, and drops signatures from quoted messages.

Interestingly, Pan seems to have no facility to post with attachments.
Whenever I want to post a binary to a.b.s.e, I have to use knode. Which
is an OK newsreader, too, but there's just something about Pan.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:41:10 +0100, Roger Johansson wrote:

Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net> wrote:

Microwave Oven with the Door Hinge at the Operator's Right-Hand Side,
And Control Panel and Door Opening at the Operator's Left.

It is a bit strange if "leftie" versions are not produced already,
considering that different kitchen layouts may need such versions, and
there is probably a market for lefthanders.

It's not so much about left-handed people, as kitchen layout. The most
glaring example was my Mom's apartment - they had a built-in over the
range, up against the right-hand wall. And she kept getting hit on the
head by the door - it's terribly inconvenient, and in the way. If I
had the power to sign an LC for 100K or 1M, I'd just order a boatload or
so and take them to the stores. The design is trivial; I'm hoping that
whoever does jump on it throws a crumb or two my way, just for the idea.

FWIW, last night I dreamed that I asked somebody if they could spare five
bucks, and she gave me a wad of fives - about fifty, a hundred bucks, so
maybe that's a sign. ;-)

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Roger Johansson]

So it seems like a lot of people assume, or know, that there are left
hinged models, but so far I have not actually found one.

Found a left-hinged microwave oven, here:

http://www.gaggenauappliances.co.uk/home.php?page=detail&product=em200



--
Roger J.

 

[Active8]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:30 GMT, Rich Grise wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:33:46 +0000, Fred Abse wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:48:03 -0500, Active8 wrote:

I think you'll find I'm now the same as Rich, 0.14.2.91. I built a new
one at the weekend. There's been a different tag line for each version
for some time. The last but one was "This isn't a psychotic episode,
it's a cleansing moment of clarity". There is a Windows build out there,
take a look at http://pan.rebelbase.com/.

Oh, yes, Pan will recognize oddball quote characters, optionally mutes
quoted text, and drops signatures from quoted messages.

Interestingly, Pan seems to have no facility to post with attachments.
Whenever I want to post a binary to a.b.s.e, I have to use knode. Which
is an OK newsreader, too, but there's just something about Pan.

Yikes! Pan for winders is a devil worshipper! It ignores my default
browser setting and opens IE for a link, thereby reinstalling the
Alexis spyware.

Must release judgements. I am not bad for having evil stuff like IE
on my winders box. It's ok to feel that MS is evil and Pan knows not
what it does. What am I forgetting here, Rich? Other than a big pot
of coffee and a collection plate

Maybe I'll get lucky and by having ZoneAlarm deny access and gaffing
IE, it didn't have a chance to do the dirty deed.

Whew! Safe and clean. I could feel the flames licking at my sockets.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Larry Brasfield wrote:

"Michael Noone" <mnoone.uiuc.edu@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:Xns96217A2E8B647mnooneuiucedu127001@216.196.97.136...

"Larry Brasfield" <donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com> wrote in news:%
TY%d.35$e%3.343@news.uswest.net:

...
Regarding circuit shown at:
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mnoone/www/Linearamplifierwithfet.jpg
[Why the FET dies resolved.]


OK then well now I'm just confused - how would you switch a very high
voltage signal with a mosfet with a low voltage input?


To do that in a DC coupled manner with a ground
referenced load and a ground referenced controller
normally requires at least 1 more transistor, itself
having similar HV withstand. The process of getting
a signal from one voltage range to another is often
called "translating". A common base amplifier could
do it for your application.

Oh yeah? But that does not answer how you would do it using a MOSFET.
MOSFETs don't have "base" leads. And a "switch" is entirely different
from a level translator- you don't know what you're doing, so you're now
adding additional and inapplicable information to dodge answering the
simple OP and his simple question.

And don't call it "switch" when you mean to drive
the FET so that it has varying transconductance.

"Varying transconductance"? Is that what you mean by linearly? You may
have the OP impressed with your idiot vocabulary- but the rest of us see
you for what you are...

I thought one of the
big ideas of fets was that you could take a small input voltage and switch
a large input voltage - but that seems to not be right?


That has not been contravened here.

"Contravened"? What a total pseudo-intellectual misuse and
misapplication of a simple word...you mean /you/ can't tell him anything
to make a determination one or the other- not quite the same as
"contravene".

Thanks,


You're welcome. I've set followups to sci.electronics.basics
because this kind of discussion is more topical there.

You mean you're trying to pull out of said where your bullsh_t will be
scrutinized. Run and hide, Mary.

 

[Active8]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 06:49:25 GMT, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Larry Brasfield wrote:
snip

You're welcome. I've set followups to sci.electronics.basics
because this kind of discussion is more topical there.


You mean you're trying to pull out of said where your bullsh_t will be
scrutinized. Run and hide, Mary.

I won't analyze the chronology of events in depth, but after this,
he x-posted and broke an already broken thread. Get's him on top at
my 20, but I'll wager google has maintained thread integrity.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Fred Abse]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:16:21 -0500, Active8 wrote:

pedant mode
"to which you are replying"
/pedant mode



thus "f grammar" I should start *speaking* in pedant mode. Maybe
that will keep the neanderthals away.

I took "f grammar" as an invitation to tease

snip

Thanks. I missed that the first time. And no cygwin needed! I'm
going to give cygwin another try, though.

Bite the bullet. Get into Linux. You'll tear your hair for about six
months, then things will suddenly drop into place, and you'll wonder how
you ever managed without it.

I dumped Windoze totally back in 2000.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[Fred Abse]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:58:30 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

Interestingly, Pan seems to have no facility to post with attachments.
Whenever I want to post a binary to a.b.s.e, I have to use knode. Which
is an OK newsreader, too, but there's just something about Pan.

True, it doesn't, and, judging by correspondence on the pan users mailing
list, it won't have any time soon.

I use Sylphheed-Claws (which I use anyway as my main mail client) for
posting binaries. It's not a bad news client, but won't let you download
all bodies in a group at one go (at least I've not found a way of doing
it). It handles MIME headers properly, so you don't get the usual thing of
pdfs showing up in Pan as text if you post them using Sylpheed. It's about
the best mail client I've ever used.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[Fred Abse]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:45:43 -0500, Active8 wrote:

Yikes! Pan for winders is a devil worshipper! It ignores my default
browser setting and opens IE for a link, thereby reinstalling the
Alexis spyware.

Hahahahaha! Try Edit>Preferences>Apps & Mail>Web Browser.

Whoever built your Pan must have a wry sense of humor to make IE the
default browser :-(

I've never use Pan on Windoze, mainly because I don't have Windoze.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)