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On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:02:52 +1000, <ramrod@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:

"satanist bushkultie" wrote in message news:Y4JIHODE40941.5714699074@reece.net.au...
... in hell.

The last person who said that died 2 weeks ago..............

A lot of innocent people suffer and die because of the neocons.

 

On 2 Feb 2012 05:42:55 -0000, "braindead bushkultie" <murdering-satanists-slut@neo.con>
wrote:

... almost dead.

Your brain's already there.

Meanwhile, this remains undisputed:

A soldier sworn to defend the US Constitution
has no option of complicity in crimes against
the United States. The neocons are traitors.

http://www.bradleymanning.org
http://syd4bradley.posterous.com/
http://blog.ukfriendsofbradleymanning.org/about/
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/12/25
http://couragetoresist.org/donate/bradley-manning.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28339
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-hails-bradley-manning-as-true-patriot/
http://consortiumnews.com/2011/12/24/americas-debt-to-bradley-manning/
http://www.thefastertimes.com/politics/2011/12/28/in-defense-of-bradley-manning/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/12/22/133877/seriousness-of-wikileaks-suspect.html
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/24/the_intellectual_cowardice_of_bradley_mannings_critics/
http://www.alternet.org/news/153539/history_will_judge_bradley_manning_and_laud_him_for_telling_the_truth
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/145977/bradley-manning-and-julian-assange-both-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/

 

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:23:26 -0500, ColdWarDinosaur <wynnehenry!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

bushkultie wrote:
... a .... dubious character ...should be tried, sentenced and killed for his
crime.

You skipped my post:

So that would mean you would execute Bush, Cheney, and Scooter Libby
like the Rosenbergs for outing covert CIA officer Valerie Plame for
political purposes to forward their war based on lies in Iraq.

Excellent point. The bushkultie's trying to hide from that, too.

 

This remains undisputed:

A soldier sworn to defend the US Constitution
has no option of complicity in crimes against
the United States. The neocons are traitors.

http://www.bradleymanning.org
http://syd4bradley.posterous.com/
http://blog.ukfriendsofbradleymanning.org/about/
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/12/25
http://couragetoresist.org/donate/bradley-manning.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28339
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-hails-bradley-manning-as-true-patriot/
http://consortiumnews.com/2011/12/24/americas-debt-to-bradley-manning/
http://www.thefastertimes.com/politics/2011/12/28/in-defense-of-bradley-manning/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/12/22/133877/seriousness-of-wikileaks-suspect.html
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/24/the_intellectual_cowardice_of_bradley_mannings_critics/
http://www.alternet.org/news/153539/history_will_judge_bradley_manning_and_laud_him_for_telling_the_truth
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/145977/bradley-manning-and-julian-assange-both-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/

 

'Nuff sed.

 

Normal healthy competent people
don't find "Shock and Awe" or any
other type of terrorism acceptable.

http://www.bradleymanning.org
http://syd4bradley.posterous.com/
http://blog.ukfriendsofbradleymanning.org/about/
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/12/25
http://couragetoresist.org/donate/bradley-manning.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28339
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-hails-bradley-manning-as-true-patriot/
http://consortiumnews.com/2011/12/24/americas-debt-to-bradley-manning/
http://www.thefastertimes.com/politics/2011/12/28/in-defense-of-bradley-manning/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/12/22/133877/seriousness-of-wikileaks-suspect.html
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/24/the_intellectual_cowardice_of_bradley_mannings_critics/
http://www.alternet.org/news/153539/history_will_judge_bradley_manning_and_laud_him_for_telling_the_truth
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/145977/bradley-manning-and-julian-assange-both-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/

 

[Winston]

Jamie wrote:

Winston wrote:
nobody@nowhere.com wrote:

Belfort Instrument Company is selling to a known terrorist country as
evidenced by mention of the DigiWx AWOS on their corporate homepage
sold to:


(...)

1) It's poorly designed and can cause confusion and wasted time.
2) Someone sold one to our enemy and made money.
3) It's been destroyed and we probably did it.

You don't appear happy. Why is that?

--Winston
most likely a disgruntle X employee.

Ah.

--Winston <-- Highly gruntled, heveled and 'in whack'.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Winston wrote:

Jamie wrote:
? Winston wrote:
?? nobody@nowhere.com wrote:
??
??? Belfort Instrument Company is selling to a known terrorist country as
??? evidenced by mention of the DigiWx AWOS on their corporate homepage
??? sold to:
??
??
?? (...)
??
?? 1) It's poorly designed and can cause confusion and wasted time.
?? 2) Someone sold one to our enemy and made money.
?? 3) It's been destroyed and we probably did it.
??
?? You don't appear happy. Why is that?
??
?? --Winston
? most likely a disgruntle X employee.

Ah.

--Winston ?-- Highly gruntled, heveled and 'in whack'.

I doubt that Maynard was ever Gruntled. Hell, he can't even spell
it. Or 'Ex'


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Bob Myers]

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:12:49 PM UTC-6, Jamie wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:


I have one of their USB-1gbs Ethernet adaptors. Its made well, and
works. (although USB is only good for ~200mbs)

Cheers



Really? I thought it was 480mbs? That is, the main port..

Jamie

It is, at least per the spec. max for USB 2.0. 480 Mbps, that is; 480 millibits per second wouldn't be all that useful...;-)

Bob M.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Bob Myers wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:

I have one of their USB-1gbs Ethernet adaptors. Its made well, and
works. (although USB is only good for ~200mbs)

Really? I thought it was 480mbs? That is, the main port..

It is, at least per the spec. max for USB 2.0. 480 Mbps, that is; 480 millibits per second wouldn't be all that useful...;-)

Neither is 'm'aynard.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[ForeverRent]

On 03/23/12 00:17, Ray Piszt wrote:

Hi,

IMO "sexual harrasment" against women does not exist. But we're living in a
femifacist society and all the judges and juries and lawyers are believing a
(lying) woman who is crying before court. And there are thousands of
innocent men in our prisons because of false "rape" or "sexual harassment"
claims.

On the other hand, women are sexually harassing younger men at work, but
nobody is believing these men.

So a man is considered "worthless" in our femifacist society.

Ray


Not Gymybob. I love Gymybob so much I jerk off to the thought of Gymybob

pissing and shitting in my mouth.


My 'GymyBobism' collection...updated daily:
=========================================
## some '#' bracketed text added for clarification ##
## all cut and paste, NO modifications of ANY kind ##
## 100 % Pure GymyBob. Accept no substitutes! ##

We need less morons like another clone of Moron II here.
## My fifteen minutes of FAME! ##

Everybody is a complete moron except me

Hot air will rise straight up and if it doesn't then you have wind and
it isn't
a problem anyway.

The answer to poverty is to pribt more money. That doesn't make the money
less, only divided finer between the bills and takes from the rich and gives
to the poor. You can't say it wouldn't stop poverty. It would be unfair and
silly from most standpoints though (except the beneficiaries).

Usenet recommends crossposting to save storage on every Usenet server in the
world.

Moving energy and creating it are different things.
##Gimmie Bob and the first law of thermodynamics##

It doesn't matter what you say...it's wrong!

My bozo bin is getting rather large with all the swollen heads here in it.

Your car alternator will charge your car batery up to 15.4 volts in cold
weather.

I remember Solid State ignition being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember air bags being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember seat belts being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember clumpling metal bodies being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember collapsible steerin columns being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember fuel injection being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember ABS breaks being laughed at as a gimic.

There are a few 12V mowers out there already and apparently will do a few
acres quite easily on a charge. B&D has one.

Mazda claims to not have used the Wankel engine since the 60s-70s.
##GimminyBoob said this in 2005##

Mazda does NOT claim Wankel engines and denies putting them
in at all.

NTSC redefined it slightly off 60Hz so that power supply ripple
will move on the screen (two slightly black bands that scroll
up/down your screen

Portable humidifiers do not typically use heat to evaporate the water.
The heat
from the room is used.

You sure spent a lot of time trying to convince me you don't knwo what I am
talking about...LOL

You babies are a blast like RC toys to play with!

I am the only one that can be right

Voltage does not indicate state of charge well.

At 11.6 volts a 12v battery is about 50-70% charged still.

Polish solar panels are what americans called "flashlights"

We have to consider the DC/DC inverter in between that can act as a
step up for
current since the batteries cannot use the high voltage from the panels
in full sun.
##unaware what flooded cell batteries do to solar panel output voltage##

There should be subsidies for solar panels but control of prices to boot.

Propane will disapate and freeze when it evaporates.

Gasoline is not nearly as volatile as hydrogen.

When I use pot I imagine everythging is perfect.

Perhaps you should only spoeak on things you know something about.

Many people have browsers that economize the download

Just another threading error creating confusion

Learn how to thread or sit back and watch for a few years.

Try to stay on topic and on thread too bean brain.

Perhaps try Outlook Express or another browser that knows how to thread
posts.

Ohhhh. that's how it works here. If you put the boost to as many
concepts,ideas and posters as possible it makes you a better person?

Bottom posting was the was in the 70s and 80s before threading browsers were
available cheap like OE

Top posters do not have to trim.

Another Forte Agent person that doesn't understand threading.

You use Mozzilla and haven't learned to thread.

Try Outlook Express so you can understand threading maybe.

I have been noticing many threading errors everywhere on Usenet lately.

People with OE don't seem to have the petty problems with subject
lines changing, intermingled posts and downloading binary files with mixed
posts, random pieces and many other problems all the nonOE people have.

Bottom posting has been obsoletely by threading browsers.

Forwarding does not include headers.

Call your damn ISP and tell them your browser is multiple posting.

90% of the people in America have never operated a computer.

Sorry, My browser cuts off long posts to reduced bandwidth on my 300
baud modem.

Let's say youre solar cell was trying to put out
14.3 volts DC and you stuck a 10 ohm meter in series with a charged 13.8
volt DC battery.

Your troll was too obvious. Try to engage the mark in conversation first so
there is, at least, some stake, like friendship for the person listening.
When the friendship is well developed then attack. Not too obvious at first
or you will lose your audience. This will enhance your troll points.

I think outside opinions are worth much more than sales hype from the
company that made the product.
## Referring to *factory* charging specifications for the batteries they
make ##

This is good to know. However I tend to go by the manufacturer's
information.
They provide the warranty.

This is power grid induction through capacitive proximity

Mechanics do it all the time. It is not a big deal
##Talking about short circuiting car batteries to see if they spark##

You can get fooled with another ground in the house finding it's way
back to the
transformer neutral.

No more than three conductors in a pipe due to cooling from external
contact for
thermal reasons.

A thought I have is rain water from a roof on a three story home through a
micro-turbine.

Setback thermostats only work efficiently for small differentials, dependant
on the time duration.

Breakers are good for one time usage of one fault and then they need to be
replaced for any warrantied usage.

If the breaker interupts a fault, it should be replaced.No warranty will
honoured after that.

This newsgroup is full of selfproclaimed experts like you.

I don't have a link at this time

There are no hydrogen molecules in water and the oxygen in water isn't
flammable either.

Water is inert and contains no energy to be used. Get some basic chemistry
first.

Quite simply put, for some of the boneheads here.

Most conclude their isn't many knowledgeable people here. I do.

NiCads and NiMh batterries are designed to take a current charge forever.

Oh yeah, I can charge a battery and use it six months later fully charged.
The nicads will be cooked because you keep them on charge, just in case you
need them but when you remember them six months later they are cooked and
won't last 5 minutes in the camera.

Hopefully his AGM battery is larger than a AA NiCad that could absorb this
charge current forever.

It takes a complete idiot to deny they can short out all by themselves.
Three, loose in a bag can short themselves out.
## referring to AA batteries doing the physically impossible ##

Did they have electricity back in 1994?

I have been around so long with this stuff I believe I invented the diode in
1941 but I am not familiar with the solar panel usage requirements of them.
(no P & N substrate explanations please. I wrote the GE manual...LOL)

NOTE: do not pass ground wires through metal holes or cable clamps with two
screws on a metal surface.

There is **NOT*** enough energy in a lightning bolt to power your house for
more than an hour...if that. Do the math.
The figures escape me but let's say it puts out a roughly MWatt of power for
100 nanoseconds?
100 x 10-9 x 1 x 106 / 3600 (sec/hr) = 0.0027 wH
oooops.... Wouldn't light your home for a 1/2 second.
OK..OK.. multiply the figures time 100 or 1000. Now it would light a 100W
bulb for 1 second.

The IEEE-232 standards were never followed or known by many.

Fossil fuels are still renewable and being cxreated as we speak.

Children are venerially created.

If you want to discuss this then fine, otherwise go f.ck yourself like your
mother did.

Can you let go of my dick before it explodes on ya, goofball?

Petroleum is not related to Natural gas.

I would rather work at my $100/hour job than at chopping wood for hours to
save $3/hour

I have no license, I wire and inspect other's wiring for a job and work for
a medium size electrical utility.

WTF is a "GRID"?

My workplace has been throwing out huge digitizing pallettes (like 24 x
36" units)
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

As a design engineer of transformers for 10 years I happen to know you
are full
of sh.t.

I am a Protection & Control Tech by profession and have experience with
control
systems

What is a Mwe?
##referring to his not knowing "MegaWatts Electricity"##

BTW Watts / AC voltage does not equate to any amps.
##No knowledge of power factor##

Try spelling "bus" correctly! Maybe your brain will start again. Probaby
not,
you f.cking loser.
## Referring to the correctly spelled word 'buss' as used in real electrical
terminology ##
## http://tinyurl.com/5ctml ##

X10 signals are transmitted just after the voltage waveform zero crossing.
This is in order to avoid conflicts with SCR and Triac peak waveform
switching spikes from load type devices such as lamp dimmers.
## control module misinformation ##

Besides when they on any line they will pull of the meter as a
disconnect point.
## speaking of power line guys miles away removing YOUR electrical meter for
THEIR safety ##

The majority prefers top posting.

Not one of your suggesters listened to what the OP requested...LOL

Get your tear ducts flushed by a knowledgeable optometrist.

Not many materials have the huge exponential resistance/heat curve aluminum
does. Overload doesn't make it glow like copper...it flashes and explodes.

A bathroom fan motor would never push hot air down ten feet or cold up ten
feet.

Bathroom fans have a hard time pushing 55 cfm through a 3-4" pipe 20
horizontal feet. They are made to vent smells and humid air horizontally
only.

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

Usenet rules dictate top posting for readability

Many cell modems are set up to filter bottom posts out.

Cell modems do not cut off anything.

What security flaws.
##referring to Outlook Express##

10 pounds per gallon Imperial. That gallon is totally unique to the
US....ooops..I think all gallons are unique to the US now.

The standard Imperial gallon the whole world used weighs 10 pounds exactly.

The copper isn't worth more than 5 cents per pound. It is classed a mixed
copper and nobody wants it.

Hey moron! The copper is considered "mixed" copper and is worth about $0.02
per pound, if he seperates it all.

Just don't ever lose weight. Toxins are stored in your fat cells.

Did you know, **NO***, I repeat ***NO*** death has ever been related to
PCBs?

Insulated square copper wires from a dry transformer are not 99% copper and
take a lot of work to remove the insulation.

I have tonnes of insulated copper wire if you want it. I think you could
almost have for the picking it up. How many bins can you take per year

50 lbs? We have it by the bin full. Mostly #6 to 650 MCM. I beleive you
would have to leave a bin and then pick it up full later to compete with the
current scrapper.

Can't this tranformer be used by somebody to generate a second 120V from a
single phase 120V inverter? It sounds pretty beefy.

BTW: once you knock the wedge out of the coil form the laminations will be
easier to get out. This keeps them from buzzing until the varnish and other
impregnations go into it.

All you guys have a bad Christmas or Jewish and didn't see Santa or
something?

Run each signal twisted with a ground for noise. RD twisted with gnd as a
pair, TD twisted around ground as a pair etc... This means signal/logic
ground not power ground or case ground, if they are different. Do not
connect the other ends of the ground conductors.

Tar pitch in a flourescent ballast does ***NOT*** contain PCBs and probably
never did.

Religion is not genetic or even herodigious

I believe the warmest part of the lake is just below the ice. As the water
frezes it rises to the top and joins the other ice formations.

Gel cell won't cut it when it comes to putting out 100A or more. They
cook in
one spot and the rest of the electrolyte doesn't circulate fast enough.

There is nothing standard about USanian measurements. They changed their
sizes to avoid trading with the rest of the world. This worked for a few
centuries but the rest of the world moved on to the metric system to avert
the confusion the US caused.

Ever put your ohmmeter (do I need to explain an ohmmeter also?) across a
capacitor? It measures infinity after charging to the supply voltage
because the
electrolyte is an insulator.

Electrolytes are not conductors of electricity in a capacitor.

If the electrolyte conducted it would be a resistor.

I doubt they are 4 farads. More likely 4 microfarads uf.
## referring to 4000mfd caps ##

Sometimes it is an ego boost to have these so-called "professionals"
come and
beg for information because they can't our toys do what the good guys
can but I
would never hire them given a choice.

I have never had problems running RS232 at 19K2 through 14kV switchgear
so far
but I use twisted pair and sheilded cable combos and observe allt he good
grounding techniques etc. The other engineers always want to ground both
ends
but in an area with 10Kampere faults that isn't a good idea.

Try rereading what I posted and try a basic English comprehension course
before you make a complete fool out of yourself again.

Do you measure altitude in degrees? Many aeronautical people would
disagree with
you.
## referring to solar azimuth/altitude thread ##

My house is filled with motion detectors. They don't all operate lights.
They
mostly signal my house control computer and it decides what to do and when.

Enlighten please (like it really matters...LOL)

I will hand stitch my embroidery before I would pay that kind of money...LOL

A 50Hz transformer needs double the iron a 60Hz transformer needs for
the same
VA capacity.

Does it test CTs with real current or just voltage?

It doesn't really matter where the secondary current comes from, secondary
exciting or primary current exciting, the voltage developed or excited
across it
will be about the same.
## talking about an OPEN circuit CT transformer ##

High voltage spikes want to keep going at the end and this is where your
saturating core transformer core is located behind the fuse.

Moving a kill-a-watt unit around is like using it on somebody else's
house and
telling the person's load.

oooops. A flourescent with a filament?
## not knowing how most fluorescents start up ##

You are a stupid basterd.

Ever considered anxiety medication? Chest pains for a man is a classic
symptom.

When confronted with many websites stating the otherwise he won't
address the
issue but repeats his crap again like a child stamping his feet.
## Oh, the Irony! ##

What are you doing up at this ungawdly hour? I just got finished
embroidering
about 10 items, including a flight bag for golf clubs.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I just love women with front loading bobbins.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I doubt a 6 needle machine would be faster than a 1 needle machine
unless you do
repetitive patterns.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I had many problems with this and damaged my machine a few times. It was the
needles. Find ones that have very little "hip" bump around the eye of
the needle.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I have found doctors absolutely ignorant and totally obstinet on these
kind of
issues.

I put my first child on Ritalin for a year or so when quite young. It
beat going
to prison for beating him black and blue.

I made a big mistake and should have "drugged" all of my children the same.

Once again you are an ignorant a.shole disguising your lack of confidence

I did the chem.cut medication stuff for a few years with my first child
and then
found Naturopathic Doctors using homeopathy to get more lasting relief.

Homeopathics saved me thousands of dollars for operations I did not have
on my
children

Accupunture worked for my 1 and two year old children for ailments after the
medical doctors could do nothing for.

Placebo is a completely natural cure for many ailments.

Polio Vaccine? They stopped giving that one long before HIV was invented.

You have no idea what you are talking about and either does anybody else
here.

See if you can replace it with a thermal acting unit. They have a rachet
on a
shaft that holds thew contacts closed.
## confusing motor overload with breaker ##

What are you doing in my group?

Milk is just plain poison for humans.

I am not a chemist but I know that cow's milk calcium molecules are a huge
irritant to human digestion and usually results in calcium deficiencies

See an accupunturist for the pain and circulation
See a chiropractor to keep the structure good.
See a naturopathic doctor for the chemical imbalance.
See a medical doctor for a some poison that will make her life shorter.

Even an honest Doctor will take yoy they arte totally ignorant of nutrition.

The medical doctors will play the time game and probably just let him
die after
removing half his organs because they may be a problem.

Some things mankind should just not eat too much of and it isn't meat
typically
and this may not be consistent for all people.

Do not listen to the stories of addiction. Yes, they are tough to stop
but so is
insulin for a diabetic. I have stopped taking mine and it wasn't that
bad but
after months of regressing I chose to return like the other half the
population.

Make sure your wrists are well warmed up before putting sudden jerky
movements
to them.

Make up your mind before you mouth off like the usual Internet piece of
sh.t.
This is a rough group and if you had followed the usual recommendations you
would have known that and have nothing to say about it.
## in misc.kids.health, alt.support.breast-implant,
misc.health.alternative ##

Bad practice to ground yourself when working on electronics. It
increases the
chance of injury or death by electrical shock and also increases the
chance of
static discharge to the circuit chips. Ground is a potential too.

Oink...Oink...just take it out. What could be simpler?
## in soc.support.fat-acceptance, alt.support.big-folks ##

No hyphen in the word multi-syllabic.

## Gymy Bob's endorsement of anal sex censored##
## sorry, I have my limits ##

A complete f.cking idiot spurted out his piehole:
## in misc.health.alternative ##

I was born depressed and never realized until about 3 years ago. I am 52 and
went for medication because of anxiety.

The English can't stand each other, let alone other cultures.
If you don't believe me brother just ask the rest of my family that I
disowned.

I find most Americans likeable and they find me likeable after they open
their wallets far enough to make me that way.
How many american dollars will it take to make you suck their dicks?
## in alt.support.attn-deficit, misc.health.alternative ##

How much for a blow job?

Believe me, "America" is so far behind on internet usage over many South
American countries. They just don't happen to post in English and not many
of you could possibly understand other languages even exist.

WTF is CBT? Chekaslovakia Book Therapy?

Try your left hand. It feels like somebody else's hand sometimes.
## pdaxs.services.massage, misc.health.alternative, alt.backrubs,
alt.health.massage-therapy ##

OK, you're not a moron. You are above average for Nova Scotia.

Another tidbit for the brainless twit with the big mouth here

Pehaps magnesium supplementation would allow these buffoons to utilize some
of their already overloaded calcium intake.

This guy is a total buffoon and has no knowledge of any part of his own
sentence.

Where should you shove it?

Fish oil is mainly responsible for your placebo also.
## in misc.health.alternative##

After disassembling Bill Gates' 6800 Basic back in the 70s I knew he was
a dirty
software scoundrel.

The government makes more on the taxes than the tax rate when this is done.

Be blabest tofart.
## ???? in alt.comp.periphs.dcameras ##

Blood may be kept at a stable 7.4 pH but a piece of copper wire passes
electricity through it even though the number of electrons remains constant.
## in misc.health.alternative ##

I have had amazing effects from some homeopathic remedies and others did
nothing.

These homeopathic know-it-alls drive me crazy with their 1880 knowledge.

Sorry, but testing has proven homeopathic remedies to be effective remedies.

I have taken a few homeopathic remedies that taste like crap. Funny how pure
water could do that.

Homeopathic remedies are very toxic substances and used because of their
toxic
properties.

Standard homeopathic science.

Your ignorance of homeopathy does not mean it is useless.

Everybody always follows the screaming, left-wing, maniac, tooting we
are all
going to die by doing another therapy.

I have had achilles tendonitus for the past 2-3 years now. I got rid of it
on one side by grinding out the bones spurs underneath with the side of a
screwdriver blade and lots of oil.

GET OFF THE WHEAT, CORN & OATS!!!

It doesn't matter how well it works if the doctor doesn't say so (with
his two
years of college) then it just ain't so.

Heat pumps are 300% efficient when the weather is fine but the compressor
motors? hmmm about 60%.

You are obviously a moron and you keep repeating it here.
## referring to my corrections of his postings ##

 

[ForeverRent]

On 03/23/12 15:45, Ray Piszt wrote:

Hi,

are there any movies about John Norman's "Gor"-books or do the Hollywood
people only produce manhating, femifacist, man-bashing rubbish?

Ray

If they made a movie about Gymybob I would go to the theater and go Pee
Wee Herman.

My 'GymyBobism' collection...updated daily:
=========================================
## some '#' bracketed text added for clarification ##
## all cut and paste, NO modifications of ANY kind ##
## 100 % Pure GymyBob. Accept no substitutes! ##

We need less morons like another clone of Moron II here.
## My fifteen minutes of FAME! ##

Everybody is a complete moron except me

Hot air will rise straight up and if it doesn't then you have wind and
it isn't
a problem anyway.

The answer to poverty is to pribt more money. That doesn't make the money
less, only divided finer between the bills and takes from the rich and gives
to the poor. You can't say it wouldn't stop poverty. It would be unfair and
silly from most standpoints though (except the beneficiaries).

Usenet recommends crossposting to save storage on every Usenet server in the
world.

Moving energy and creating it are different things.
##Gimmie Bob and the first law of thermodynamics##

It doesn't matter what you say...it's wrong!

My bozo bin is getting rather large with all the swollen heads here in it.

Your car alternator will charge your car batery up to 15.4 volts in cold
weather.

I remember Solid State ignition being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember air bags being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember seat belts being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember clumpling metal bodies being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember collapsible steerin columns being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember fuel injection being laughed at as a gimic.
I remember ABS breaks being laughed at as a gimic.

There are a few 12V mowers out there already and apparently will do a few
acres quite easily on a charge. B&D has one.

Mazda claims to not have used the Wankel engine since the 60s-70s.
##GimminyBoob said this in 2005##

Mazda does NOT claim Wankel engines and denies putting them
in at all.

NTSC redefined it slightly off 60Hz so that power supply ripple
will move on the screen (two slightly black bands that scroll
up/down your screen

Portable humidifiers do not typically use heat to evaporate the water.
The heat
from the room is used.

You sure spent a lot of time trying to convince me you don't knwo what I am
talking about...LOL

You babies are a blast like RC toys to play with!

I am the only one that can be right

Voltage does not indicate state of charge well.

At 11.6 volts a 12v battery is about 50-70% charged still.

Polish solar panels are what americans called "flashlights"

We have to consider the DC/DC inverter in between that can act as a
step up for
current since the batteries cannot use the high voltage from the panels
in full sun.
##unaware what flooded cell batteries do to solar panel output voltage##

There should be subsidies for solar panels but control of prices to boot.

Propane will disapate and freeze when it evaporates.

Gasoline is not nearly as volatile as hydrogen.

When I use pot I imagine everythging is perfect.

Perhaps you should only spoeak on things you know something about.

Many people have browsers that economize the download

Just another threading error creating confusion

Learn how to thread or sit back and watch for a few years.

Try to stay on topic and on thread too bean brain.

Perhaps try Outlook Express or another browser that knows how to thread
posts.

Ohhhh. that's how it works here. If you put the boost to as many
concepts,ideas and posters as possible it makes you a better person?

Bottom posting was the was in the 70s and 80s before threading browsers were
available cheap like OE

Top posters do not have to trim.

Another Forte Agent person that doesn't understand threading.

You use Mozzilla and haven't learned to thread.

Try Outlook Express so you can understand threading maybe.

I have been noticing many threading errors everywhere on Usenet lately.

People with OE don't seem to have the petty problems with subject
lines changing, intermingled posts and downloading binary files with mixed
posts, random pieces and many other problems all the nonOE people have.

Bottom posting has been obsoletely by threading browsers.

Forwarding does not include headers.

Call your damn ISP and tell them your browser is multiple posting.

90% of the people in America have never operated a computer.

Sorry, My browser cuts off long posts to reduced bandwidth on my 300
baud modem.

Let's say youre solar cell was trying to put out
14.3 volts DC and you stuck a 10 ohm meter in series with a charged 13.8
volt DC battery.

Your troll was too obvious. Try to engage the mark in conversation first so
there is, at least, some stake, like friendship for the person listening.
When the friendship is well developed then attack. Not too obvious at first
or you will lose your audience. This will enhance your troll points.

I think outside opinions are worth much more than sales hype from the
company that made the product.
## Referring to *factory* charging specifications for the batteries they
make ##

This is good to know. However I tend to go by the manufacturer's
information.
They provide the warranty.

This is power grid induction through capacitive proximity

Mechanics do it all the time. It is not a big deal
##Talking about short circuiting car batteries to see if they spark##

You can get fooled with another ground in the house finding it's way
back to the
transformer neutral.

No more than three conductors in a pipe due to cooling from external
contact for
thermal reasons.

A thought I have is rain water from a roof on a three story home through a
micro-turbine.

Setback thermostats only work efficiently for small differentials, dependant
on the time duration.

Breakers are good for one time usage of one fault and then they need to be
replaced for any warrantied usage.

If the breaker interupts a fault, it should be replaced.No warranty will
honoured after that.

This newsgroup is full of selfproclaimed experts like you.

I don't have a link at this time

There are no hydrogen molecules in water and the oxygen in water isn't
flammable either.

Water is inert and contains no energy to be used. Get some basic chemistry
first.

Quite simply put, for some of the boneheads here.

Most conclude their isn't many knowledgeable people here. I do.

NiCads and NiMh batterries are designed to take a current charge forever.

Oh yeah, I can charge a battery and use it six months later fully charged.
The nicads will be cooked because you keep them on charge, just in case you
need them but when you remember them six months later they are cooked and
won't last 5 minutes in the camera.

Hopefully his AGM battery is larger than a AA NiCad that could absorb this
charge current forever.

It takes a complete idiot to deny they can short out all by themselves.
Three, loose in a bag can short themselves out.
## referring to AA batteries doing the physically impossible ##

Did they have electricity back in 1994?

I have been around so long with this stuff I believe I invented the diode in
1941 but I am not familiar with the solar panel usage requirements of them.
(no P & N substrate explanations please. I wrote the GE manual...LOL)

NOTE: do not pass ground wires through metal holes or cable clamps with two
screws on a metal surface.

There is **NOT*** enough energy in a lightning bolt to power your house for
more than an hour...if that. Do the math.
The figures escape me but let's say it puts out a roughly MWatt of power for
100 nanoseconds?
100 x 10-9 x 1 x 106 / 3600 (sec/hr) = 0.0027 wH
oooops.... Wouldn't light your home for a 1/2 second.
OK..OK.. multiply the figures time 100 or 1000. Now it would light a 100W
bulb for 1 second.

The IEEE-232 standards were never followed or known by many.

Fossil fuels are still renewable and being cxreated as we speak.

Children are venerially created.

If you want to discuss this then fine, otherwise go f.ck yourself like your
mother did.

Can you let go of my dick before it explodes on ya, goofball?

Petroleum is not related to Natural gas.

I would rather work at my $100/hour job than at chopping wood for hours to
save $3/hour

I have no license, I wire and inspect other's wiring for a job and work for
a medium size electrical utility.

WTF is a "GRID"?

My workplace has been throwing out huge digitizing pallettes (like 24 x
36" units)
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

As a design engineer of transformers for 10 years I happen to know you
are full
of sh.t.

I am a Protection & Control Tech by profession and have experience with
control
systems

What is a Mwe?
##referring to his not knowing "MegaWatts Electricity"##

BTW Watts / AC voltage does not equate to any amps.
##No knowledge of power factor##

Try spelling "bus" correctly! Maybe your brain will start again. Probaby
not,
you f.cking loser.
## Referring to the correctly spelled word 'buss' as used in real electrical
terminology ##
## http://tinyurl.com/5ctml ##

X10 signals are transmitted just after the voltage waveform zero crossing.
This is in order to avoid conflicts with SCR and Triac peak waveform
switching spikes from load type devices such as lamp dimmers.
## control module misinformation ##

Besides when they on any line they will pull of the meter as a
disconnect point.
## speaking of power line guys miles away removing YOUR electrical meter for
THEIR safety ##

The majority prefers top posting.

Not one of your suggesters listened to what the OP requested...LOL

Get your tear ducts flushed by a knowledgeable optometrist.

Not many materials have the huge exponential resistance/heat curve aluminum
does. Overload doesn't make it glow like copper...it flashes and explodes.

A bathroom fan motor would never push hot air down ten feet or cold up ten
feet.

Bathroom fans have a hard time pushing 55 cfm through a 3-4" pipe 20
horizontal feet. They are made to vent smells and humid air horizontally
only.

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

Usenet rules dictate top posting for readability

Many cell modems are set up to filter bottom posts out.

Cell modems do not cut off anything.

What security flaws.
##referring to Outlook Express##

10 pounds per gallon Imperial. That gallon is totally unique to the
US....ooops..I think all gallons are unique to the US now.

The standard Imperial gallon the whole world used weighs 10 pounds exactly.

The copper isn't worth more than 5 cents per pound. It is classed a mixed
copper and nobody wants it.

Hey moron! The copper is considered "mixed" copper and is worth about $0.02
per pound, if he seperates it all.

Just don't ever lose weight. Toxins are stored in your fat cells.

Did you know, **NO***, I repeat ***NO*** death has ever been related to
PCBs?

Insulated square copper wires from a dry transformer are not 99% copper and
take a lot of work to remove the insulation.

I have tonnes of insulated copper wire if you want it. I think you could
almost have for the picking it up. How many bins can you take per year

50 lbs? We have it by the bin full. Mostly #6 to 650 MCM. I beleive you
would have to leave a bin and then pick it up full later to compete with the
current scrapper.

Can't this tranformer be used by somebody to generate a second 120V from a
single phase 120V inverter? It sounds pretty beefy.

BTW: once you knock the wedge out of the coil form the laminations will be
easier to get out. This keeps them from buzzing until the varnish and other
impregnations go into it.

All you guys have a bad Christmas or Jewish and didn't see Santa or
something?

Run each signal twisted with a ground for noise. RD twisted with gnd as a
pair, TD twisted around ground as a pair etc... This means signal/logic
ground not power ground or case ground, if they are different. Do not
connect the other ends of the ground conductors.

Tar pitch in a flourescent ballast does ***NOT*** contain PCBs and probably
never did.

Religion is not genetic or even herodigious

I believe the warmest part of the lake is just below the ice. As the water
frezes it rises to the top and joins the other ice formations.

Gel cell won't cut it when it comes to putting out 100A or more. They
cook in
one spot and the rest of the electrolyte doesn't circulate fast enough.

There is nothing standard about USanian measurements. They changed their
sizes to avoid trading with the rest of the world. This worked for a few
centuries but the rest of the world moved on to the metric system to avert
the confusion the US caused.

Ever put your ohmmeter (do I need to explain an ohmmeter also?) across a
capacitor? It measures infinity after charging to the supply voltage
because the
electrolyte is an insulator.

Electrolytes are not conductors of electricity in a capacitor.

If the electrolyte conducted it would be a resistor.

I doubt they are 4 farads. More likely 4 microfarads uf.
## referring to 4000mfd caps ##

Sometimes it is an ego boost to have these so-called "professionals"
come and
beg for information because they can't our toys do what the good guys
can but I
would never hire them given a choice.

I have never had problems running RS232 at 19K2 through 14kV switchgear
so far
but I use twisted pair and sheilded cable combos and observe allt he good
grounding techniques etc. The other engineers always want to ground both
ends
but in an area with 10Kampere faults that isn't a good idea.

Try rereading what I posted and try a basic English comprehension course
before you make a complete fool out of yourself again.

Do you measure altitude in degrees? Many aeronautical people would
disagree with
you.
## referring to solar azimuth/altitude thread ##

My house is filled with motion detectors. They don't all operate lights.
They
mostly signal my house control computer and it decides what to do and when.

Enlighten please (like it really matters...LOL)

I will hand stitch my embroidery before I would pay that kind of money...LOL

A 50Hz transformer needs double the iron a 60Hz transformer needs for
the same
VA capacity.

Does it test CTs with real current or just voltage?

It doesn't really matter where the secondary current comes from, secondary
exciting or primary current exciting, the voltage developed or excited
across it
will be about the same.
## talking about an OPEN circuit CT transformer ##

High voltage spikes want to keep going at the end and this is where your
saturating core transformer core is located behind the fuse.

Moving a kill-a-watt unit around is like using it on somebody else's
house and
telling the person's load.

oooops. A flourescent with a filament?
## not knowing how most fluorescents start up ##

You are a stupid basterd.

Ever considered anxiety medication? Chest pains for a man is a classic
symptom.

When confronted with many websites stating the otherwise he won't
address the
issue but repeats his crap again like a child stamping his feet.
## Oh, the Irony! ##

What are you doing up at this ungawdly hour? I just got finished
embroidering
about 10 items, including a flight bag for golf clubs.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I just love women with front loading bobbins.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I doubt a 6 needle machine would be faster than a 1 needle machine
unless you do
repetitive patterns.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I had many problems with this and damaged my machine a few times. It was the
needles. Find ones that have very little "hip" bump around the eye of
the needle.
## in alt.sewing.mach-embroider ##

I have found doctors absolutely ignorant and totally obstinet on these
kind of
issues.

I put my first child on Ritalin for a year or so when quite young. It
beat going
to prison for beating him black and blue.

I made a big mistake and should have "drugged" all of my children the same.

Once again you are an ignorant a.shole disguising your lack of confidence

I did the chem.cut medication stuff for a few years with my first child
and then
found Naturopathic Doctors using homeopathy to get more lasting relief.

Homeopathics saved me thousands of dollars for operations I did not have
on my
children

Accupunture worked for my 1 and two year old children for ailments after the
medical doctors could do nothing for.

Placebo is a completely natural cure for many ailments.

Polio Vaccine? They stopped giving that one long before HIV was invented.

You have no idea what you are talking about and either does anybody else
here.

See if you can replace it with a thermal acting unit. They have a rachet
on a
shaft that holds thew contacts closed.
## confusing motor overload with breaker ##

What are you doing in my group?

Milk is just plain poison for humans.

I am not a chemist but I know that cow's milk calcium molecules are a huge
irritant to human digestion and usually results in calcium deficiencies

See an accupunturist for the pain and circulation
See a chiropractor to keep the structure good.
See a naturopathic doctor for the chemical imbalance.
See a medical doctor for a some poison that will make her life shorter.

Even an honest Doctor will take yoy they arte totally ignorant of nutrition.

The medical doctors will play the time game and probably just let him
die after
removing half his organs because they may be a problem.

Some things mankind should just not eat too much of and it isn't meat
typically
and this may not be consistent for all people.

Do not listen to the stories of addiction. Yes, they are tough to stop
but so is
insulin for a diabetic. I have stopped taking mine and it wasn't that
bad but
after months of regressing I chose to return like the other half the
population.

Make sure your wrists are well warmed up before putting sudden jerky
movements
to them.

Make up your mind before you mouth off like the usual Internet piece of
sh.t.
This is a rough group and if you had followed the usual recommendations you
would have known that and have nothing to say about it.
## in misc.kids.health, alt.support.breast-implant,
misc.health.alternative ##

Bad practice to ground yourself when working on electronics. It
increases the
chance of injury or death by electrical shock and also increases the
chance of
static discharge to the circuit chips. Ground is a potential too.

Oink...Oink...just take it out. What could be simpler?
## in soc.support.fat-acceptance, alt.support.big-folks ##

No hyphen in the word multi-syllabic.

## Gymy Bob's endorsement of anal sex censored##
## sorry, I have my limits ##

A complete f.cking idiot spurted out his piehole:
## in misc.health.alternative ##

I was born depressed and never realized until about 3 years ago. I am 52 and
went for medication because of anxiety.

The English can't stand each other, let alone other cultures.
If you don't believe me brother just ask the rest of my family that I
disowned.

I find most Americans likeable and they find me likeable after they open
their wallets far enough to make me that way.
How many american dollars will it take to make you suck their dicks?
## in alt.support.attn-deficit, misc.health.alternative ##

How much for a blow job?

Believe me, "America" is so far behind on internet usage over many South
American countries. They just don't happen to post in English and not many
of you could possibly understand other languages even exist.

WTF is CBT? Chekaslovakia Book Therapy?

Try your left hand. It feels like somebody else's hand sometimes.
## pdaxs.services.massage, misc.health.alternative, alt.backrubs,
alt.health.massage-therapy ##

OK, you're not a moron. You are above average for Nova Scotia.

Another tidbit for the brainless twit with the big mouth here

Pehaps magnesium supplementation would allow these buffoons to utilize some
of their already overloaded calcium intake.

This guy is a total buffoon and has no knowledge of any part of his own
sentence.

Where should you shove it?

Fish oil is mainly responsible for your placebo also.
## in misc.health.alternative##

After disassembling Bill Gates' 6800 Basic back in the 70s I knew he was
a dirty
software scoundrel.

The government makes more on the taxes than the tax rate when this is done.

Be blabest tofart.
## ???? in alt.comp.periphs.dcameras ##

Blood may be kept at a stable 7.4 pH but a piece of copper wire passes
electricity through it even though the number of electrons remains constant.
## in misc.health.alternative ##

I have had amazing effects from some homeopathic remedies and others did
nothing.

These homeopathic know-it-alls drive me crazy with their 1880 knowledge.

Sorry, but testing has proven homeopathic remedies to be effective remedies.

I have taken a few homeopathic remedies that taste like crap. Funny how pure
water could do that.

Homeopathic remedies are very toxic substances and used because of their
toxic
properties.

Standard homeopathic science.

Your ignorance of homeopathy does not mean it is useless.

Everybody always follows the screaming, left-wing, maniac, tooting we
are all
going to die by doing another therapy.

I have had achilles tendonitus for the past 2-3 years now. I got rid of it
on one side by grinding out the bones spurs underneath with the side of a
screwdriver blade and lots of oil.

GET OFF THE WHEAT, CORN & OATS!!!

It doesn't matter how well it works if the doctor doesn't say so (with
his two
years of college) then it just ain't so.

Heat pumps are 300% efficient when the weather is fine but the compressor
motors? hmmm about 60%.

You are obviously a moron and you keep repeating it here.
## referring to my corrections of his postings ##

 

[whit3rd]

On Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:15:03 AM UTC-7, Jim Thompson wrote:

OT: Solar Charging 12V Car Battery...

My son, Aaron, software engineer turned farmer, has acreage in the San
Tan Valley with no source of electric power.

He'd like some artificial light for his chicken coop to increase the
egg output.

It needn't be a lead/acid battery, though: there are Stirling engines
that'll easily pump water up a tower in good sunlight,
then your timer could open a turbine gate to generate power.
It might be more efficient in energy terms to omit the photovoltaic
bit, and the scale of a pump/turbine system can grow VERY much
with relatively little cost. Water tower materials grow as the square
of dimension, energy storage grows as the cube.

 

[Bob Myers]

On Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:15:18 PM UTC-6, spamtrap1888 wrote:

On Apr 5, 12:07 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/6qx5ghk


Gratuitous (and anonymous) Leo Fender bashing. But here is the prize
sentence:

"After several false starts, the pair hit upon a remarkably powerful
design with unprecedented distortion, volume, and a characteristic
tone that had never been heard before."

Unprecedented distortion -- just what I look for in an amp.

Don't do a lot of guitar amps, do you?

Bob M.

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

hamilton wrote:

On 4/27/2012 2:59 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Jim Thompson"<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message newsgtlp71l1uocqnsh0i930g8sbhumi1agkn@4ax.com...
Mind stretching....

http://wmbriggs.com/

...Jim Thompson
--

Hmm. Religion is theory. Therefore ....
Art


http://www.publicaffairs.ubc.ca/2012/04/26/analytic-thinking-can-decrease-religious-belief-ubc-study/

The problem with populist atheists (aside from being populists) is that they
think the inverse is also true, so they can make people think by telling
them not to believe in God. That's completely non-sequitur. If they don't
know how to take a direct approach to teaching people how to think in the
first place and decide for themselves about God then they should shut up.


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zero, and remove the last word.

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Chiron wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:01:46 -0400, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc&feature=player_embedded

If I wanted America to fail I'd put 45 mammals on the endangered
species list, and 46 clams.

I'd make the cost of regulatory compliance 10% of GDP, not
including the cost of time waiting for approvals.

But that's just what I'd have done in the 20th century. I'd do all
sorts of new things now.

I'm thinking that's not the problem. We want to fix the blame on some
group, or an individual, or a mentality or a political party or
whatever. I think it's way more complex than that, and probably not
amenable to being fixed.

I know, we're making light of it. But this is part of the problem. As the
series in the NY Times a few months ago explained, all the iPhone production
is in China not because of cheap labor but because they can build factories
quickly while we do environmental impact assessments.

As I look now at the US, I am struck by the similarities between us
and England ~100 years ago. England was the main superpower at the
time, with an almost-invincible navy, colonies and other territories
throughout the world - "the sun never sets on the British Empire."
But the sun sets for everyone.

England wound up doing what we're doing - letting herself go, screwing
around with the stock market, usury, excessive credit, too much
military, not enough social services, pig-headed arrogance, and on
and on. I guess when you're the masters of the world, you don't have
to pay attention to what the little people say...

They lost the empire because they never learned from the early lesson of
losing the American colonies. We were mostly English and they refused even
to treat us as equals, so it's reassuring to know that they didn't treat the
Indians and others as inferior because of race.

Eventually it all fell apart. I see that happening here in the US
now. Seems to me that as a country we've grown "old" so to speak, and
are now declining into senescence. If we follow England's course,
we'll become a second-rate power, not helpless but not able to impose
our will as easily as before.

Looks to me like China's turn is next to be the big kid on the block.
Russia is also declining; India, while massive, hasn't yet had a
renaissance. The countries of Islam are so far behind in science that
they pose little threat at the moment. But China... it has the
population, the money, the scientific training, everything it needs to
start to kick ass and take names. And I don't think there's a damned
thing anyone can do about it.

Well, we didn't have to allow them to buy missile technolgy in the 90's,
when Clinton moved the export controls from the State Department to
Commerce. Their missiles could only reach LA in 1992, and soon after that
policy change they put a man in orbit.


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[P E Schoen]

"Chiron" wrote in message news:1HMmr.31408$Ex1.11697@newsfe18.iad...

I'm thinking that's not the problem. We want to fix the blame on
some group, or an individual, or a mentality or a political party or
whatever. I think it's way more complex than that, and probably not
amenable to being fixed.

As I look now at the US, I am struck by the similarities between us and
England ~100 years ago. England was the main superpower at the
time, with an almost-invincible navy, colonies and other territories
throughout the world - "the sun never sets on the British Empire."
But the sun sets for everyone.

England wound up doing what we're doing - letting herself go,
screwing around with the stock market, usury, excessive credit, too
much military, not enough social services, pig-headed arrogance,
and on and on. I guess when you're the masters of the world, you
don't have to pay attention to what the little people say...

Eventually it all fell apart. I see that happening here in the US now.
Seems to me that as a country we've grown "old" so to speak, and
are now declining into senescence. If we follow England's course,
we'll become a second-rate power, not helpless but not able to
impose our will as easily as before.

Looks to me like China's turn is next to be the big kid on the block.
Russia is also declining; India, while massive, hasn't yet had a
renaissance. The countries of Islam are so far behind in science
that they pose little threat at the moment. But China... it has the
population, the money, the scientific training, everything it needs
to start to kick ass and take names. And I don't think there's a
damned thing anyone can do about it.

I think you are correct on many points. Right-wing-nut propaganda such as
the video Jim posted, and the cartoon Jamie posted, seem to be the product
of thinking that the world is still OUR oyster, and we can go back to
"business as usual" or even return to the days of even more "pure"
capitalism that resulted in the robber barons and severe abuses of people
because of greed and short-term gain. Politics has become unworkable because
the Democrats and Republicans have become outrageously polarized. The
right-wing, especially, has expended most of its time and energy over the
past four years playing knee-jerk obstructionism and blocking legislation
even they had previously supported, solely for the purpose of creating
dissention and economic failure and trying to make it look like everything
is the fault of Obama and the left-wing and even moderates.

The fact is that the world is a very different place now, and "business as
usual" just won't work anymore. Larger countries, particularly China, are
now becoming major world powers, and their people rightfully demand a shot
at a lifestyle on par with what most Americans have enjoyed until it all
started to fall apart around 2008. The problem is that there are just too
many people in the world, and not enough resources to provide the same
elevated standard of living for all, that most US citizens enjoyed and came
to expect. It is simply not sustainable, and the economics of continued
exponential growth, making money on speculation and the expectation of
limitless expansion, is mathematically destined to fail as surely as any
Ponzi scheme.

The videos only reflect the immature and unrealistic beliefs of those who
refuse to see the facts, and continue to blame the "liberals" for all the
problems. Of course there are many problems that have been caused by
delusions and emotionalism of "bleedin' heart" liberals who are responsible
for the badly broken "criminal justice" system and poorly designed welfare
and other public services. But the policies touted by ultra-conservatives
simply won't work either. We have only a relatively short time in which to
use logic and good judgment to arrive at a workable moderate program that
most ordinary people can support and receive reasonable benefit.

The US is losing their superiority on many fronts. Education is being
decimated so that fewer young people have the skills to get good jobs in an
increasingly technological marketplace. There is even a reduction of actual
intelligence because of irresponsible procreation among those with the least
to offer, and results in an increase of criminal behavior and a reduction of
moral and ethical values. People have become accustomed to high-paying jobs,
even for minimal skill levels, and there are people in countries like China
and Mexico who are willing to and able to do a better job for less pay. And
very few people will accept manual labor positions, either because they are
physically unable to do the work, or they complain that they cannot maintain
their unreasonably excessive lifestyle on the wages that are offered.

Nobody has all the answers, and we can't fix this problem by making huge,
unpopular, changes in government and social policies as claimed by those who
seek office, opposing the present administration in every possible way. You
can't make impossible promises that, at best, are temporary measures, and
will create even worse problems in the future. Like it or not, there are a
lot more "99%ers" than the 1% who control most of the wealth, and they are
unlikely to be fooled by all the smoke and mirrors, and outright lies,
deception, and corruption. It seems that the right-wingers, especially,
believe what they WANT to believe, and make proposals that have no chance of
becoming reality in our present world. And perhaps the most disturbing
aspect of their attitude is the anger and rage that they often express, but
I suppose that is the way spoiled brats act when they no longer can get
their own way, and are forced to adopt cooperative behavior, rather than
unfairly competitive and aggressive bullying to soothe their greedy egos.

Paul

 

[Chiron]

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 04:32:49 -0400, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Chiron wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:01:46 -0400, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

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Well, I'm not saying I have all (or any) of the answers. What I *am*
trying to say is that our problems don't result from some single, easily-
fixed fault like "the Liberals." We're looking for a scapegoat, but that
isn't going to help us. There is no scapegoat, no guilty party, no bad
guy. Trying to find someone to fix the blame on isn't going to do jack
for us. Sure, some bone-headed decisions caused problems; but those
decisions were also a *result* of problems. It is impossible to single
out any one person or group as being guilty of creating our problems. It
just isn't how it happened.

Example: We continually make idiotic scientific decisions (which hurts
technology and business), because nobody in this country (at least not
enough) understands science or critical thinking or logic. That's
because we're not teaching science properly in the schools. And that's
because we've made other dumb or unhelpful decisions.

We've got people who think we need to be teaching the Bible in schools -
sharia law for the US. That would put us about even with Afghanistan.
These guys have some serious political clout, and are contributing to our
problems.

Whenever I see something like, "All we have to do is..." I know they're
full of shit. It's not that simple. A solution, if one exists, is going
to be complex, difficult, and slow. It will require rethinking our way
of life and some major changes. We simply cannot continue to live as
we've been doing. We've been hogging more than our fair share of
resources for decades. Now we're no longer powerful enough to enforce
that policy. Our standard of living is going to have to decline until it
is more in keeping with that of other countries. If we try to impose our
will through force, we'll only succeed in bankrupting ourselves with
unwinnable wars. Kind of like how England did, back in the day.

I say "standard of living" though probably that's not quite the right
phrase. Our material lives are glutted; however our psychological,
spiritual, emotional, and other lives are impoverished. We've got more
"stuff" than anyone else, but we're mostly miserable - or at least,
unfulfilled. Even our medical standards, once the highest in the world,
have fallen. Our infant mortality rate is worse than that of Cuba, for
crying out loud. Yet we easily outspend everyone else on medical costs.

So our material goods will decline, but we may in fact benefit from it in
the long run. If our food supply were reduced, we might lose some
collective weight and get healthier. If we had fewer toys, we might
(re)learn to talk more with our families and friends (he says, as he sits
at his computer). If we had fewer drugs and medical toys, we might go
back to the days when doctors actually examined us and listened to what
we had to say - which could help restore the quality of our medical care.

If, if, if. Maybe I'm full of shit. I don't know... but from where I
sit, it really looks like we're just about headed for a serious
comeuppance with the rest of the world. If we handle it right, maybe
we'll be joining the rest of the human race, rather than losing America.
Or maybe not. Ask me in about 100 years or so, maybe I'll know then.

But I'm pretty sure that if we keep trying to 'stay the course,' we're
fucked.

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[Tom Del Rosso]

P E Schoen wrote:

The fact is that the world is a very different place now, and
"business as usual" just won't work anymore.

Yeah, the difference is they have lower tax burdens on business, because we
have one party that makes punitive taxation part of its agenda.


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[Tom Del Rosso]

P E Schoen wrote:

It is simply not sustainable, and the economics of continued
exponential growth, making money on speculation and the expectation
of limitless expansion, is mathematically destined to fail as surely
as any Ponzi scheme.

As surely as Social Security and Medicare then.

You can make laws that are sustainable, or laws that are progressive.
Democrats have made the latter their main focus and now they want to claim
they've been aiming for sustainability all along?


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