Cheapo DMM

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You both got ripped. That's rather expensive. I paid a $1.99 for the same
basic Centec DMM at Harbor Freight about 6 weeks ago. I bought a bushel or
two.

"ehsjr" <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
I stopped by harbor Freight Tools last wk and bought a Cen-Tech DMm for
$3.99, which is even cheaper than the ones I got thru the mail.

Just got a new Harbor Freight flyer in the mail - they are on
sale again for $2.99.

Ed
 
"Gar" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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You both got ripped. That's rather expensive. I paid a $1.99 for the
same
basic Centec DMM at Harbor Freight about 6 weeks ago. I bought a
bushel or
two.

"ehsjr" <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
I stopped by harbor Freight Tools last wk and bought a Cen-Tech
DMm for
$3.99, which is even cheaper than the ones I got thru the mail.

Just got a new Harbor Freight flyer in the mail - they are on
sale again for $2.99.

Ed
That's cool. Your only problem right now is going thru all of them and
removing the battery so that it won't leak all over the innnards and
ruin them while they're sitting around for the next ten years. ;-)
 
"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
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Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.
Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.
 
"Si Ballenger" <shb*NO*SPAM*@comporium.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 05:57:58 -0700, "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun,
the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

I stopped by harbor Freight Tools last wk and bought a Cen-Tech DMm
for
$3.99, which is even cheaper than the ones I got thru the mail. And
that's with a 9V battery. I like the separate on/off switch, because
you don't have to crank the rotary switch halfway around to turn it
off.
I opened it up, and it's COB, really cheaply made. but the test
leads
are bertter than the ones I got by mail, which had test leads that
were
open - the wire was defective.

I found this auction on Ebay. He's probably going to Harbor Freight
and
buying them for $3.99, and reselling them one Ebay for twice that.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=455
8
178849&category=43989

I bought some of the earlier ones for $2.99 during a harbor
freight sale. They are pretty rugged and work well for most of my
needs. Would be good for classes or group projects (boy scouts,
robot clubs, etc) where each person could have their own meter.
The thing I miss is a beep function when checking continuity.
They have another version with the beep for a few dollars more.
I've see them sold on the net as high as $18.99. Google for 830b
meter.
Some seller on Ebay sells them for really cheap, and then nicks you for
ten or fifteen bucks shipping. I've read some Ebay disclaimer that says
they get complaints about sellers that overcharge for shipping. But
they basically say buyer beware, take your biz elsewhere, they won't do
anything about it. One thing I noticed is that these cheap meters all
have AC ranges that go no lower than 200VAC. I wonder if that's because
they want to cut corners and save money on switches, etc, or if it's
because too many people put the meter on 120 or 240VAC and burn out the
lower ranges.
 
"Walter Harley" <walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
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[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax
authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is
considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few
loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax
rules
here.
Too bad. ;-)

(From a Calif. resident)
 
They're ok for a cheap meter. 1 meg input impedance. ~4%
accuracy.
Better than 1k or 10k meter movements but the 9v
battery costs more than the meter.
GC
 
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:12:16 -0700 "Walter Harley"
<walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
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[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.
I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.

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Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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"Jim Adney" <jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:12:16 -0700 "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
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[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax
authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is
considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few
loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax
rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.
Up until recently, I became acutely aware that other states were doing
this. In Calif, it seemed to me that it just makes common sense that
sales tax would _not_ be levied on services, such as 'transportation' as
the tax code calls it, and any service that isn't actually the goods
itself. See, labor (AKA services) is _already_ taxed thru income tax.

Back years ago, _all_ food was not taxable. Then Sacramento came up
with what was called the 'Twinky Tax'. Some foods such as those sold in
vending machines became taxable. (It sure hasn't slowed people down
from eating them! Sunday Morning on CBS this morning had a piece on how
everything is being made larger to accommodate larger people. Subway
seats used to be 17", now they're in the low 20's. Dress sizes of a
certain number have become larger, etc.)

I'm not sure how they draw the line between Twinkies and cupcakes.
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:10:11 -0500, the renowned Jim Adney
<jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:12:16 -0700 "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
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[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird tax rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.
Probably to keep vendors from potentially avoiding tax on behalf of
their customers by invoicing an item as $0.99 plus $150 'shipping and
handling'.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:10:11 -0500, the renowned Jim Adney
jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:12:16 -0700 "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
news:xPGdnfvn0aBu3FjfRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
[...] Sales tax rules differ from state
to state. Some require tax on services, some don't.

Yep. Here in WA state, at least the last time I asked the tax
authority and
to the best of my understanding of their answer, shipping cost is
considered
part of the total sale price, so it's taxed (give or take a few
loopholes
that don't generally apply). But then we have all kinds of weird
tax rules
here.

I was surprised to find out a few years ago that WI sales tax was
also
levied on the shipping & handling charges.

Probably to keep vendors from potentially avoiding tax on behalf of
their customers by invoicing an item as $0.99 plus $150 'shipping and
handling'.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
Well, I don't see that happening. The customer doesn't have to pay ten
bucks tax, but the vendor still hase to send tax on 99 cents to the
state, so it still doesn't save him anything. And then there's the
matter of the state saying that the vendor is attempting to avoid what's
due the state, and then the vendor has a legal problem. And it's no
skin off the vendor's nose if the customer pays the ten dollars or not.
So your scenario doesn't seem plausible. But on Ebay, they seem to do
it to avoid selling fees or to lower risk.
 
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:54:27 -0700, the renowned "Watson A.Name -
\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

Well, I don't see that happening. The customer doesn't have to pay ten
bucks tax, but the vendor still hase to send tax on 99 cents to the
state, so it still doesn't save him anything.
Puts her in a competitive situation with other vendors (including out
of state) and she saves the credit card percentage on the tax.

And then there's the
matter of the state saying that the vendor is attempting to avoid what's
due the state, and then the vendor has a legal problem.
He would only have a legal problem if it wasn't legal to do. S&H is
fairly arbitrary.

And it's no
skin off the vendor's nose if the customer pays the ten dollars or not.
So your scenario doesn't seem plausible. But on Ebay, they seem to do
it to avoid selling fees or to lower risk.
Or both. The latter is particularly insidious, in the case where a
vendor may offer a refund minus shipping. It's kind of like paying a
tradesman cash so he can cheat on his taxes.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 

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