Cheap Chinese shaver & Ni-Mh cell.

On Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:38:43 PM UTC-4, Ian Field wrote:

A while back I bought a cheap Chinese shaver, at best it only gave about 4

shaves per charge - when that deteriorated to 2, I opened it up and had a

look.



It has a single AA cell marked as Ni-Mh - 500mAh (I have higher capacity

Ni-Cd cells than that).



In the past I've tried replacing shaver Ni-Cd cells with higher capacity

Ni-Mh, only to find that the higher internal resistance results in not much

improvement on the worn out cells being replaced.



Since this shaver had a (marked as) Ni-Mh cell, I bunged in a 2300mAh low

self discharge type (brand new).



The shaver works, but seems sluggish - and no surprise, still only does 2 -3

shaves per charge.



So let the guessing games begin - did they fraudulently stamp Ni-Mh on a

Ni-Cd cell, or is the 500mAh cell optimised for high current at the expense

of total capacity?



Maybe I'll pull it apart again and stick a 600mAh Ni-Cd cell in it, but I'd

be interested to hear any opinions in the meantime.



Thanks.

I have an old Norelco three head model that originally came equipped with two 500mah cells. I found this thing at the town recycling center about 15 years ago. And it was old back then. The present incarnation of batteries are 750mah cells. Last year the internal charger crapped out and I couldn't identify or get the parts anymore.

I removed the dead charger,(which afforded more room inside) and as suggested by someone on this group I built into the shaver a little 20ma constant current supply using an LM317. I installed a standard female power jack in the shaver case and found a cord with a male on one end and a cigarette lighter plug on the other. This was easier than trying to come up with a small enough 120V power supply that would all be able to stuff into the little vinyl pouch that holds the shaver and accessories. This arrangement will charge the batteries enough to give me a few good shaves and works fine.

I have on occasion left this thing plugged in for several days without any problems. But I no longer shave, or use the truck for that matter every day anymore so this is not really an inconvenience. Of course like Jurb said when you think about it there's probably no need to shave at all, but it does keep the old lady happy. Lenny

 

[Ian Field]

Maybe I'll pull it apart again and stick a 600mAh Ni-Cd cell in it, but
I'd

be interested to hear any opinions in the meantime.



Thanks.

I have an old Norelco three head model that originally came equipped with
two 500mah cells. I found this thing at the town recycling center about 15
years ago. And it was old back then. The present incarnation of batteries
are 750mah cells. Last year the internal charger crapped out and I
couldn't identify or get the parts anymore.

I removed the dead charger,(which afforded more room inside) and as
suggested by someone on this group I built into the shaver a little 20ma
constant current supply using an LM317. I installed a standard female
power jack in the shaver case and found a cord with a male on one end and
a cigarette lighter plug on the other. This was easier than trying to come
up with a small enough 120V power supply that would all be able to stuff
into the little vinyl pouch that holds the shaver and accessories. This
arrangement will charge the batteries enough to give me a few good shaves
and works fine.

I have on occasion left this thing plugged in for several days without any
problems. But I no longer shave, or use the truck for that matter every
day anymore so this is not really an inconvenience. Of course like Jurb
said when you think about it there's probably no need to shave at all,
but it does keep the old lady happy. Lenny

Chances are I might go for a leaded shaver with a power brick style.

Several shavers that would have cost as much for a new foil as replace the
whole thing are still in the bottom of the drawer.

Maybe strip the guts out of one of those and wire the battery compartment to
the cheap Chinese shaver with a length of flex.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

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I have on occasion left this thing plugged in for several days
without any problems. But I no longer shave, or use the truck
for that matter every day anymore so this is not really an
inconvenience. Of course like Jurb said when you think about
it there's probably no need to shave at all, but it does keep the
old lady happy.

Shaving is perhaps the best example of doing something that's unnecessary,
just because everyone else does. As I like to say... Why do you want to make
yourself look more like a woman?

 

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I have on occasion left this thing plugged in for several days
without any problems. But I no longer shave, or use the truck
for that matter every day anymore so this is not really an
inconvenience. Of course like Jurb said when you think about
it there's probably no need to shave at all, but it does keep the
old lady happy.

Shaving is perhaps the best example of doing something that's unnecessary,
just because everyone else does. As I like to say... Why do you want to
make yourself look more like a woman?

If I had a big bushy beard, I'd always worry what was nesting in it - that
and I might get mistook for a raghead by the local skinheads!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

Shaving is perhaps the best example of doing something that's unnecessary,
just because everyone else does. As I like to say... Why do you want to make
yourself look more like a woman?

You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Also: Try telling a Drill Instructor that you aren't going to shave.
;-)


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[William Sommerwerck]

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> If I had a big bushy beard, I'd always worry what was nesting in it...

Ya got somethin' 'gainst sweet li'l critters?

A woman who ran an exotic-pets business told how her husband was converted
into a flying-squirrel lover when he woke up one morning with one of them
nestling in his beard.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

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You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Like all those Civil War generals?

 

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If I had a big bushy beard, I'd always worry what was nesting in it...

Ya got somethin' 'gainst sweet li'l critters?

I do when they take a dump in my beard!

 

[John Robertson]

On 05/30/2014 1:00 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

William Sommerwerck wrote:


Shaving is perhaps the best example of doing something that's unnecessary,
just because everyone else does. As I like to say... Why do you want to make
yourself look more like a woman?


You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Also: Try telling a Drill Instructor that you aren't going to shave.
;-)

I always had trouble with ingrown hairs when I used to shave - so I
haven't really shaved off my beard since my 20s. Every ten years or so I
go clean cut, but the rash always stops me from keeping it off more than
a few months.

A beard doesn't have to be long...and you can look quite clever when you
are stroking it whilst trying to figure out what to say when you are in
over your head...

John :-#)#
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[Michael A. Terrell]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

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You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Like all those Civil War generals?

Who cares about long dead officers? I don't shave every day, I
usually just run the hair clippers over my face without a guide. If I
don't, I end up with a nasty red rash.



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John Robertson wrote:

On 05/30/2014 1:00 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

William Sommerwerck wrote:


Shaving is perhaps the best example of doing something that's unnecessary,
just because everyone else does. As I like to say... Why do you want to make
yourself look more like a woman?


You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Also: Try telling a Drill Instructor that you aren't going to shave.
;-)



I always had trouble with ingrown hairs when I used to shave - so I
haven't really shaved off my beard since my 20s. Every ten years or so I
go clean cut, but the rash always stops me from keeping it off more than
a few months.

A beard doesn't have to be long...and you can look quite clever when you
are stroking it whilst trying to figure out what to say when you are in
over your head...

It's better, not to get in over your head.


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[William Sommerwerck]

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William Sommerwerck wrote:

You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Like all those Civil War generals?

Who cares about long-dead officers?

You (implicitly) brought it up.

 

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William Sommerwerck wrote:

You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Like all those Civil War generals?

Who cares about long-dead officers?

You (implicitly) brought it up.

Its best not to bring things up when you've got a beard.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

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??? You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
??? another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

?? Like all those Civil War generals?

? Who cares about long-dead officers?

You (implicitly) brought it up.

No, I didn't I was referring to living there myself.


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[William Sommerwerck]

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William Sommerwerck wrote:

You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Like all those Civil War generals?

Who cares about long-dead officers?

You (implicitly) brought it up.

No, I didn't I was referring to living there myself.

And so did those generals, many of who were well-bearded.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

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William Sommerwerck wrote:

You'd shave, if you lived in the deep south. Otherwise, it's just
another way to get infected pores from the sweat and bacteria.

Like all those Civil War generals?

Who cares about long-dead officers?

You (implicitly) brought it up.

No, I didn't I was referring to living there myself.

And so did those generals, many of who were well-bearded.

First of all, those generals were in camps with plenty of water. The
paintings weren't made under battle conditions, and their well trimmed
beards were to show that they were important.

Secondly, the regulations changed. All we were allowed during the
Vietnam era was a well maintained mustache. It's too easy to get ticks
or other insects in a jungle battlefield, where you are on patrol for a
week or more at a time. Watch some of the old Combat, and other WW II
TV series to see the soldiers being reprimanded for not being clean
shaven. Even M*A*S*H keeps them clean shaven, except for a few misfits
who are trying to be thrown out. Even they are told to shave.


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And so did those generals, many of who were well-bearded.

First of all, those generals were in camps with plenty of water. The
paintings [sic] weren't made under battle conditions, and their well-
trimmed beards were to show that they were important.

The photos of that era show that officers were much more likely to sport full
facial hair than enlisted men.

Did beards indicate some sort of social rank? I've wondered about this, and am
inclined to say "no". Beards were common throughout most of the 19th century,
regardless of one's social standing.

Secondly, the regulations changed. All we were allowed during the
Vietnam era was a well-maintained mustache.

Heck, they changed early in the 20th century. One of the reasons was the
possibility of being "grabbed" in hand-to-hand compact -- rather strange when
every soldier carried a rifle.

Towards the end of the 19th century, there was a reaction against beards. Part
of this must have been the usual back-and-forth of grooming styles. It might
also have been due to the spread of belief in the germ theory of disease --
beards were "dirty", and thus disease-spreaders.

As for the armed forces -- insisting that men "facially circumcise" themselves
is nothing more than an attempt to suppress individuality. (It has nothing to
do with parasites or infection.) About 25 years ago, there was a brief period
during which the Navy permitted trim beards. (In "The Abyss", Chris Elliot
(Bob's son) plays a bearded Navy man.) That didn't last long.

I remember the moment, in late 1977, when I threw off the shackles of social
convention. I would no more shave off my beard than I would cut off my
testicles.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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William Sommerwerck wrote:

And so did those generals, many of who were well-bearded.

First of all, those generals were in camps with plenty of water. The
paintings [sic] weren't made under battle conditions, and their well-
trimmed beards were to show that they were important.

The photos of that era show that officers were much more likely to sport full
facial hair than enlisted men.

Did beards indicate some sort of social rank? I've wondered about this, and am
inclined to say "no". Beards were common throughout most of the 19th century,
regardless of one's social standing.

That's because you had to have someone shave you. That cost money and
time to go to a town with a barber. Also, keep in mind that back then
bathing more than once a year was considered unhealthy. Poor hygiene
cause much shorter lifetimes for most people.

Secondly, the regulations changed. All we were allowed during the
Vietnam era was a well-maintained mustache.

Heck, they changed early in the 20th century. One of the reasons was the
possibility of being "grabbed" in hand-to-hand compact -- rather strange when
every soldier carried a rifle.

Have you ever had combat training? Not all attacks are frontal.
Also, tear gas and other chemical warfare burn like crazy and you sure
as hell don't want your face feeling like someone is holding a flame
thrower on your exposed skin. Our group had to go into a concrete block
structure during Basic Training, where they lobbed a real military grade
tear gas grenade inside. The mask protects your eyes and lungs, but not
your exposed skin. It takes a lot longer to was it off hairy skin. It
took days beffore all the effects were gone.

If you have to take out an enemy's sentry, you don't charge in and
start shooting. A lot of enemy troops are taken with a bayonet, no
matter what Obama thinks.

Towards the end of the 19th century, there was a reaction against beards. Part
of this must have been the usual back-and-forth of grooming styles. It might
also have been due to the spread of belief in the germ theory of disease --
beards were "dirty", and thus disease-spreaders.

Without proper care, they are dirty and germ laden.

As for the armed forces -- insisting that men "facially circumcise" themselves
is nothing more than an attempt to suppress individuality. (It has nothing to
do with parasites or infection.) About 25 years ago, there was a brief period
during which the Navy permitted trim beards. (In "The Abyss", Chris Elliot
(Bob's son) plays a bearded Navy man.) That didn't last long.

An army of 'individuals' don't follow orders, and die quickly. They
have to be able to work together, think alike and follow orders if they
want to live. War movies are generally full of shit, with a couple gung
ho 'heroes' winning the war single handedly. Look at the statistics for
W.W.II for the number of people who died.

I remember the moment, in late 1977, when I threw off the shackles of social
convention. I would no more shave off my beard than I would cut off my
testicles.

Whatever. A lot of employers won't hire someone with a fuzzy face.
In some jobs, it can get you killed. There is a reason machinists have
short hair and don't wear rings or other jewelry at work. I had a
physical trainer at the VA try to insult me for wearing the prescribed
thigh high support stockings that keep my legs from developing ulcers.
he was yelling, "No self respecting man would ever wear anything made
for a woman." I told him that I preferred to keep my legs, and that it
was not up to him. The idiot didn't know that they were originally a
man's garment, but it didn't stop him from being an ass. It almost got
him fired.

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[William Sommerwerck]

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William Sommerwerck wrote:

Did beards indicate some sort of social rank? I've wondered about this, and
am
inclined to say "no". Beards were common throughout most of the 19th
century,
regardless of one's social standing.

That's because you had to have someone shave you. That cost money and
time to go to a town with a barber.

That doesn't answer the question -- it doesn't /cost/ money to have a beard.

Also, keep in mind that back then bathing more than once a year was
considered unhealthy.

I think you're confusing the 19th century with the Elizabethan era. People
commonly bathed about once a week -- usually Saturday night, so they'd be
clean for church services.

Towards the end of the 19th century, there was a reaction against beards.
Part of this must have been the usual back-and-forth of grooming styles.
It might also have been due to the spread of belief in the germ theory of
disease -- beards were "dirty", and thus disease-spreaders.

Without proper care, they are dirty and germ-laden.

You've swallowed it whole, Michael. Don't worry -- if we ever meet, I won't
force myself on you.

An army of 'individuals' don't follow orders, and die quickly. They
have to be able to work together, think alike and follow orders if they
want to live. War movies are generally full of shit, with a couple gung
ho 'heroes' winning the war single handedly. Look at the statistics for
W.W.II for the number of people who died.

Note Israel's lousy armed forces has.

I love hearing conservatives attack one's right to be an individual.


> A lot of employers won't hire someone with a fuzzy face.

Some -- not a lot. It's never been a issue for me.

> In some jobs, it can get you killed.

That goes without saying.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

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> Note Israel's lousy armed forces has.

Sorry. "Note what lousy armed forces Israel has."