Can this be accomplished?

On May 10, 5:53 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:

GreenXenon wrote:

Hi:

Does a device that switches frequency [in number of Hz] with peak-to-
peak amplitude [in number of in electron(s)-per-second-per-square-
meter] – and visa versa -- exist? If not, is it possible to construct
one?

In this device, the input of a signal that has a frequency of X Hz and
a peak-to-peak amplitude of Y electron-per-second-per-square-meter
will result in the output of a signal that has a frequency of Y Hz and
a peak-to-peak amplitude of X electron-per-second-per-square-meter.


The question is based on a completely erroneous assumption. Electrons
per second per square meter is a current density, if an electron's
charge is accounted for. In electronics, it is usually current, not
current density, that matters.
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So the amplitude is determined by the amperage?
 
Jerry Avins wrote:
GreenXenon wrote:
Hi:

Does a device that switches frequency [in number of Hz] with peak-to-
peak amplitude [in number of in electron(s)-per-second-per-square-
meter] – and visa versa -- exist? If not, is it possible to construct
one?

In this device, the input of a signal that has a frequency of X Hz
and a peak-to-peak amplitude of Y
electron-per-second-per-square-meter will result in the output of
a signal that has a frequency of Y Hz and a peak-to-peak amplitude
of X electron-per-second-per-square-meter.

The question is based on a completely erroneous assumption. Electrons
per second per square meter is a current density, if an electron's
charge is accounted for. In electronics, it is usually current, not
current density, that matters.

The OP typically asks abstruse questions that, on analysis, are only
approximately meaningful. I can imagine that he was praised as a child
for asking what the adults around him thought were deep questions, and
that he has essentially retarded himself deliberately in an attempt to
relive the days of easy praise.
Click to expand...

I vaguely remember the OP attempting to explain this some time back.
Apparently he has some known medical/mental condition that makes him ask
such questions, and can't or won't comprehend the replies.

Dave.

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David L. Jones wrote:
Jerry Avins wrote:
GreenXenon wrote:
Hi:

Does a device that switches frequency [in number of Hz] with peak-to-
peak amplitude [in number of in electron(s)-per-second-per-square-
meter] – and visa versa -- exist? If not, is it possible to construct
one?

In this device, the input of a signal that has a frequency of X Hz
and a peak-to-peak amplitude of Y
electron-per-second-per-square-meter will result in the output of
a signal that has a frequency of Y Hz and a peak-to-peak amplitude
of X electron-per-second-per-square-meter.
The question is based on a completely erroneous assumption. Electrons
per second per square meter is a current density, if an electron's
charge is accounted for. In electronics, it is usually current, not
current density, that matters.

The OP typically asks abstruse questions that, on analysis, are only
approximately meaningful. I can imagine that he was praised as a child
for asking what the adults around him thought were deep questions, and
that he has essentially retarded himself deliberately in an attempt to
relive the days of easy praise.

I vaguely remember the OP attempting to explain this some time back.
Apparently he has some known medical/mental condition that makes him ask
such questions, and can't or won't comprehend the replies.

Dave.

This silly question has generated an awful lot of discussion
Click to expand...
 
F Murtz wrote:
David L. Jones wrote:
Jerry Avins wrote:
GreenXenon wrote:
Hi:

Does a device that switches frequency [in number of Hz] with
peak-to- peak amplitude [in number of in
electron(s)-per-second-per-square- meter] – and visa versa --
exist? If not, is it possible to construct one?

In this device, the input of a signal that has a frequency of X Hz
and a peak-to-peak amplitude of Y
electron-per-second-per-square-meter will result in the output
of a signal that has a frequency of Y Hz and a peak-to-peak
amplitude of X electron-per-second-per-square-meter.
The question is based on a completely erroneous assumption.
Electrons per second per square meter is a current density, if an
electron's charge is accounted for. In electronics, it is usually
current, not current density, that matters.

The OP typically asks abstruse questions that, on analysis, are only
approximately meaningful. I can imagine that he was praised as a
child for asking what the adults around him thought were deep
questions, and that he has essentially retarded himself
deliberately in an attempt to relive the days of easy praise.

I vaguely remember the OP attempting to explain this some time back.
Apparently he has some known medical/mental condition that makes him
ask such questions, and can't or won't comprehend the replies.

Dave.

This silly question has generated an awful lot of discussion
Click to expand...

That's the OP's intention, and it works nearly every time, people keep
biting.

Dave.

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I vaguely remember the OP attempting to explain this some time back.
Apparently he has some known medical/mental condition that makes him ask
such questions, and can't or won't comprehend the replies.
Click to expand...

He pops up here and there in various technical groups under various
names and has been for years. He is either mentally ill, or just
trolling, which I suppose also falls under the mentally ill category,
but either way attempting to answer his questions in any meaningful way
is futile.
 
On May 10, 7:13 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:

GreenXenon wrote:

On May 10, 5:53 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:


GreenXenon wrote:


Hi:
Does a device that switches frequency [in number of Hz] with peak-to-
peak amplitude [in number of in electron(s)-per-second-per-square-
meter] – and visa versa -- exist? If not, is it possible to construct
one?
In this device, the input of a signal that has a frequency of X Hz and
a peak-to-peak amplitude of Y electron-per-second-per-square-meter
will result in the output of a signal that has a frequency of Y Hz and
a peak-to-peak amplitude of X electron-per-second-per-square-meter..


The question is based on a completely erroneous assumption. Electrons
per second per square meter is a current density, if an electron's
charge is accounted for. In electronics, it is usually current, not
current density, that matters.


So the amplitude is determined by the amperage?


No. With real signals, amplitude is often taken to be voltage, although
power is sometimes used (think decibels).
Click to expand...

So in the device I'm thinking of [which I posted in the start of the
thread] the amplitude would be determined by volts? Or would it be in
watts-per-square-meter? Or just watts?
 
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4a07b219@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
This silly question has generated an awful lot of discussion
Click to expand...
That's GreenXenon's only reason for existence isn't it?

MrT.
 
GreenXenon wrote:

On May 10, 7:13 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:


GreenXenon wrote:


On May 10, 5:53 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:


GreenXenon wrote:


Hi:
Does a device that switches frequency [in number of Hz] with peak-to-
peak amplitude [in number of in electron(s)-per-second-per-square-
meter] – and visa versa -- exist? If not, is it possible to construct
one?
In this device, the input of a signal that has a frequency of X Hz and
a peak-to-peak amplitude of Y electron-per-second-per-square-meter
will result in the output of a signal that has a frequency of Y Hz and
a peak-to-peak amplitude of X electron-per-second-per-square-meter.


The question is based on a completely erroneous assumption. Electrons
per second per square meter is a current density, if an electron's
charge is accounted for. In electronics, it is usually current, not
current density, that matters.


So the amplitude is determined by the amperage?


No. With real signals, amplitude is often taken to be voltage, although
power is sometimes used (think decibels).


So in the device I'm thinking of [which I posted in the start of the
thread] the amplitude would be determined by volts? Or would it be in
watts-per-square-meter? Or just watts?
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1. Answer to 1st paragraph of original post is transducer.
As to 1st transducer you grew up with your eyes glued to it. Jerry
probably didn't see one until his teens, unless hes went to 1939
World's Fair.

2. Answer to this post's question - Which do you wish to measure?
 
Richard Owlett wrote:

...

1. Answer to 1st paragraph of original post is transducer.
As to 1st transducer you grew up with your eyes glued to it. Jerry
probably didn't see one until his teens, unless hes went to 1939
World's Fair.
Click to expand...
I saw myself on television at the 1939 Worlds Fair. A microphone is a
transducer, so are headphones and loudspeakers. believe it or not, there
were telephones before I was born. :)

...

Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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James Sweet wrote:
I vaguely remember the OP attempting to explain this some time back.
Apparently he has some known medical/mental condition that makes him
ask such questions, and can't or won't comprehend the replies.


He pops up here and there in various technical groups under various
names and has been for years. He is either mentally ill, or just
trolling, which I suppose also falls under the mentally ill category,
but either way attempting to answer his questions in any meaningful way
is futile.
Click to expand...
At least he's no longer pushing his scheme to encode high quality audio
with one bit per minute.

Jerry
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Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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Jerry Avins wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:

...

1. Answer to 1st paragraph of original post is transducer.
As to 1st transducer you grew up with your eyes glued to it. Jerry
probably didn't see one until his teens, unless hes went to 1939
World's Fair.

I saw myself on television at the 1939 Worlds Fair. A microphone is a
transducer, so are headphones and loudspeakers. believe it or not, there
were telephones before I was born. :)
Click to expand...

Sure, but they were coal fired, way back then! ;-)

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Jerry Avins wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:

...

1. Answer to 1st paragraph of original post is transducer.
As to 1st transducer you grew up with your eyes glued to it. Jerry
probably didn't see one until his teens, unless hes went to 1939
World's Fair.


I saw myself on television at the 1939 Worlds Fair. A microphone is a
transducer, so are headphones and loudspeakers. believe it or not, there
were telephones before I was born. :)

...

Jerry
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Ahhh Jerry, you gave it away. I was trying to get him to think - he HAS
on occasion. I was also hoping he'd reveal just why he's interested in
electron spatial density as a function of time. And why output as a
frequency? {I know why a former employer had product lines that accepted
physical process variables and emitted a pulse train as output, but why op?}
 
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk
wrote in message news:zP-dnQiAneshl5XXnZ2dnUVZ8o1i4p2d@westnet.com.au...
You being a completely moronic troll.

YES!!!!!
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Now there's an admission, even though I was actually referring to
GreenXenon. I doubt you could challenge him.

MrT.
 
Mr.T wrote:
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk
wrote in message news:zP-dnQiAneshl5XXnZ2dnUVZ8o1i4p2d@westnet.com.au...
You being a completely moronic troll.
YES!!!!!

Now there's an admission, even though I was actually referring to
GreenXenon. I doubt you could challenge him.

MrT.
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Ahh T.... always trying to reinterpret stuff to suit yourself.
 
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
news:D62dncSmvI46bJXXnZ2dnUVZ8r1i4p2d@westnet.com.au...
Ahh T.... always trying to reinterpret stuff to suit yourself.
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As opposed to your creative snipping?

MrT.
 
Mr.T wrote:
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
news:D62dncSmvI46bJXXnZ2dnUVZ8r1i4p2d@westnet.com.au...
Ahh T.... always trying to reinterpret stuff to suit yourself.

As opposed to your creative snipping?

MrT.
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On rereading that earlier reply, I made a mistake: I thought
I'd quoted you unedited, my apologies T.
 
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ZdGdnVxXV-6JrZTXnZ2dnUVZ8gdi4p2d@westnet.com.au...
On rereading that earlier reply, I made a mistake: I thought
I'd quoted you unedited, my apologies T.
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OK, consider me impressed. Not many have the guts to admit a mistake AND
make an apology.
Thanks Mark.

MrT.
 
On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:56:30 +1000, "Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote:

"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ZdGdnVxXV-6JrZTXnZ2dnUVZ8gdi4p2d@westnet.com.au...
On rereading that earlier reply, I made a mistake: I thought
I'd quoted you unedited, my apologies T.

OK, consider me impressed. Not many have the guts to admit a mistake AND
make an apology.
Thanks Mark.

MrT.
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Wow... impressed and grateful. Another Usenet rarity.
 
Mr.T wrote:
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ZdGdnVxXV-6JrZTXnZ2dnUVZ8gdi4p2d@westnet.com.au...
On rereading that earlier reply, I made a mistake: I thought
I'd quoted you unedited, my apologies T.

OK, consider me impressed. Not many have the guts to admit a mistake AND
make an apology.
Thanks Mark.

MrT.
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You're welcome!
 
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