Can an electronics student join?

Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I joined.

Thanks,

Michael

 

[Chris]

On Friday, 18 July 2014 09:20:19 UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid

wrote:



michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of

learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am

thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more

experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I

can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I

joined.





No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation

rituals, hazing, or any of that.



Just send the $40 registration fee to John Larkin.





--



John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc



jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com

http://www.highlandtechnology.com

I'll join you up for $35.00 ;-)

Also prepare for lots of spam now that you used a real (apparently) email address on your post. These groups are trawled by bots for email addys...

Chris.

 

There is no membership. The goopgle button you see has mainy to do with Google gropups which is a different thing. They us happen to be handling the Usenet access. AOL anmd a few other provides used to include Usenet access an their package, but like anyting else when they figured they wouldn't lose too much money they took it out.

You can say any fucking thing you want here, but it would be best to say things thaty would evoke the desired response.

This here is SED, there is also SEB. sci'electronics'basics. I suggest looking at that as well. As long as you are signed on in your gmail, you are free to respond to anyone. Doing so does however make your email visible to others, you probavbly heard the , err , read it somewhere when you first started.

As far as any hazing rituals, they are constant. These old geezers in here are treacherous I tellya. Watch out for them. Then some are middle aged and even more of a nuisance...

And then of course one of these days Phil Allison is going to call you dumber than a swamp frog thsat had been dropped on its head from the Eiffel Tower and shit. bt don't ignore him, he is a competent tech at least. Engoineering wise I do not know and am not really all that qualified to judge.

If you go trying to fix shit there is sci.electronics.repair of course, with a bigger bunch of people participating I think. That's where I started. Then I got to places like alt.revisionism, and there, you find out just how moderated Usenet really is. there realy are no rules at all. If you are tracable by your emmail maybe someone could come and shoot you, but most of us are too lazy to go to the trouble. So don't worry about it.

 

On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:41:32 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote:

> You bet! I was working with ...

This goddammed delusional narcissist again!

 

>"This goddammed delusional narcissist again! "

You say that like it's a bad thing. I am used to it. If you think people are bad here, try alt.revisionism.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:57:55 -0700 (PDT),
michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I joined.

Thanks,

Michael

Sure, there aren't any rules, no moderator.

What are you interested in?

Post a problem or a circuit or whatever. Ignore any people that you
don't like.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Joerg]

michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of
learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am
thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more
experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I
can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I
joined.

No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation
rituals, hazing, or any of that.

But ... for more basic questions there is sci.electronics.basics and
also people really do not like it when students try to get their
homework solved here. However, if you've made a serious effort and can't
figure something out or if you get stuck with a hardware project, by all
means ask.

And build stuff. It's super important for a career in electronics.
Companies want people who can make things happen. Nothing beats a
well-working prototype and good presentable documentation.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of
learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am
thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more
experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I
can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I
joined.


No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation
rituals, hazing, or any of that.

Just send the $40 registration fee to John Larkin.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Tim Wescott]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg wrote:

michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of
learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am thinking
it would be a good way to learn more from others with more experience
and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I can't get
answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I joined.


No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation
rituals, hazing, or any of that.

But ... for more basic questions there is sci.electronics.basics and
also people really do not like it when students try to get their
homework solved here. However, if you've made a serious effort and can't
figure something out or if you get stuck with a hardware project, by all
means ask.

To clarify: Questions where you obviously just typed in a homework
problem from the book will piss us off. Questions that go something like
"I'm doing this homework problem and I can't figure out what XXX means",
or "I'm in a Circuits & Systems class and I just can't figure out what
this 's' thing is" will get you help.

Questions like "I'm taking E&M and I can't get my head wrapped around the
curl operator" will _definitely_ get you lots of sympathy, but I'm not
sure how many of us will be able to jump in and help you, at least not
without hitting the books ourselves.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of
learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am
thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more
experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I
can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I
joined.


No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation
rituals, hazing, or any of that.

No hazing? Really? ;-)

But ... for more basic questions there is sci.electronics.basics and
also people really do not like it when students try to get their
homework solved here. However, if you've made a serious effort and can't
figure something out or if you get stuck with a hardware project, by all
means ask.

Please be honest about it.

And build stuff. It's super important for a career in electronics.
Companies want people who can make things happen. Nothing beats a
well-working prototype and good presentable documentation.

You bet! I was working with one of the young engineers today. While
he's certainly a bright kid, he has just about zero real experience.
He's been pretty much thrown into the deep end of the EMI swimming
pool without a lifeguard. The first thing I had to do was help him
sort out what he was really looking at and what he wanted to look at.
Any hardware experience you can get in college will set you apart from
the crowd.

 

[Joerg]

krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

[...]

And build stuff. It's super important for a career in electronics.
Companies want people who can make things happen. Nothing beats a
well-working prototype and good presentable documentation.

You bet! I was working with one of the young engineers today. While
he's certainly a bright kid, he has just about zero real experience.
He's been pretty much thrown into the deep end of the EMI swimming
pool without a lifeguard. ...

Tomorrow I'll have to buy myself a life vest. But not for EMI, it's for
whitewater. Too many people have died on that river.

... The first thing I had to do was help him
sort out what he was really looking at and what he wanted to look at.
Any hardware experience you can get in college will set you apart from
the crowd.

I've interviewed many engineers. Among the freshly minted ones the
absolute best impression was when people dumped a bunch of circuit
boards on the table and explained what each does, and how. One client's
VP of Engineering saw me coming out of an interview after just 15
minutes or so. She wanted to know why I broke it off. "Oh no, this it
_the_ guy, do not even let him get back to his car without an offer
letter in his hand". That was probably around five years ago, he got
hired and is still there.

When I showed up for my first interviews I brought a thick binder with
all my project documentation and photos in there. Couldn't bring much
gear because it was way too big and heavy. Folks at the university said
that would be ridiculous and hiring managers wouldn't take me serious.
Little did they know. It's too long ago but I believe out of six
interviews I got six offers. A few months later I gave one of the hiring
managers who interviewed me a ride home because his car had a problem.
"Hey, George, can we go by your house? I want to see that monster amp
you talked about back in summer."

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:06:02 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

[...]

And build stuff. It's super important for a career in electronics.
Companies want people who can make things happen. Nothing beats a
well-working prototype and good presentable documentation.

You bet! I was working with one of the young engineers today. While
he's certainly a bright kid, he has just about zero real experience.
He's been pretty much thrown into the deep end of the EMI swimming
pool without a lifeguard. ...


Tomorrow I'll have to buy myself a life vest. But not for EMI, it's for
whitewater. Too many people have died on that river.


... The first thing I had to do was help him
sort out what he was really looking at and what he wanted to look at.
Any hardware experience you can get in college will set you apart from
the crowd.


I've interviewed many engineers. Among the freshly minted ones the
absolute best impression was when people dumped a bunch of circuit
boards on the table and explained what each does, and how. One client's
VP of Engineering saw me coming out of an interview after just 15
minutes or so. She wanted to know why I broke it off. "Oh no, this it
_the_ guy, do not even let him get back to his car without an offer
letter in his hand". That was probably around five years ago, he got
hired and is still there.

When I showed up for my first interviews I brought a thick binder with
all my project documentation and photos in there. Couldn't bring much
gear because it was way too big and heavy. Folks at the university said
that would be ridiculous and hiring managers wouldn't take me serious.
Little did they know. It's too long ago but I believe out of six
interviews I got six offers. A few months later I gave one of the hiring
managers who interviewed me a ride home because his car had a problem.
"Hey, George, can we go by your house? I want to see that monster amp
you talked about back in summer."

My manager hired a newly minted grad for some DSP work this summer.
The kid is *good* (*really* good) and lives locally (about three miles
from our building). Unfortunately, he's off to grad school (UIUC ;-)
in a few weeks.

 

[Tim Williams]

"Chris" <chris.863@live.com> wrote in message
news:d3551c22-b755-4664-8f96-db85f5761620@googlegroups.com...

Just send the $40 registration fee to John Larkin.

I'll join you up for $35.00 ;-)

I'll do it for $50.00. Accept no substitute for quality enginnering.

Tim

--
Seven Transistor Labs
Electrical Engineering Consultation
Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com

 

[Joerg]

Chris wrote:

[...]

I'll join you up for $35.00 ;-)

But for that we'll expect some serious redneck rants

Also prepare for lots of spam now that you used a real (apparently)
email address on your post. These groups are trawled by bots for
email addys...

It's actually not that bad anymore. Best is to mung the "from" email
address and put a valid one (but not your primary email address) in the
"reply to" field. That's how my news provider suggested it and how I did
it. Spam isn't bad.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

 

On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:12:34 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:

michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of

learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am

thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more

experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I

can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I

joined.





No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation

rituals, hazing, or any of that.



But ... for more basic questions there is sci.electronics.basics and

also people really do not like it when students try to get their

homework solved here. However, if you've made a serious effort and can't

figure something out or if you get stuck with a hardware project, by all

means ask.



And build stuff. It's super important for a career in electronics.

Companies want people who can make things happen. Nothing beats a

well-working prototype and good presentable documentation.



--

Regards, Joerg



http://www.analogconsultants.com/

This touches on a bit of interview strategy. The reason the interviewers like
to see built stuff is because they have problems. They have to hire someone to
solve those problems. If it's engineering, they need someone who can build
something.
So in general, I believe it's a very good strategy to find out exactly what the
hiring manager needs, and present a solution to her. The more concrete the
better.
This seems so obvious, but you'd be surprised...

 

[rickman]

On 7/17/2014 8:06 PM, Joerg wrote:

When I showed up for my first interviews I brought a thick binder with
all my project documentation and photos in there. Couldn't bring much
gear because it was way too big and heavy. Folks at the university said
that would be ridiculous and hiring managers wouldn't take me serious.
Little did they know. It's too long ago but I believe out of six
interviews I got six offers. A few months later I gave one of the hiring
managers who interviewed me a ride home because his car had a problem.
"Hey, George, can we go by your house? I want to see that monster amp
you talked about back in summer."

I'm not sure 100% offer rate is much of an indicator. But I guess it
does indicate that you get the offers which means you can cull the
employers.

I used to get 100% offer rate. The headhunters always wanted me to
either accept or turn down an offer quickly without more interviews, but
I wanted to see what else was out there. But now that I am over 50...
well over 50 it is actually hard to get an interview much less an offer.
Age discrimination is real... very real. Fortunately I am not in need
of a job.

--

Rick

 

On Friday, July 18, 2014 12:46:46 AM UTC-4, haitic...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:12:34 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:

michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:



Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of



learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am



thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more



experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I



can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I



joined.











No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation



rituals, hazing, or any of that.







But ... for more basic questions there is sci.electronics.basics and



also people really do not like it when students try to get their



homework solved here. However, if you've made a serious effort and can't



figure something out or if you get stuck with a hardware project, by all



means ask.







And build stuff. It's super important for a career in electronics.



Companies want people who can make things happen. Nothing beats a



well-working prototype and good presentable documentation.







--



Regards, Joerg







http://www.analogconsultants.com/



This touches on a bit of interview strategy. The reason the interviewers like

to see built stuff is because they have problems. They have to hire someone to

solve those problems. If it's engineering, they need someone who can build

something.

So in general, I believe it's a very good strategy to find out exactly what the

hiring manager needs, and present a solution to her. The more concrete the

better.

This seems so obvious, but you'd be surprised...

Oh, and another "obvious" thing is managers with problems like to talk about
them, because they are often obsessed with them.

 

[RobertMacy]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:08:13 -0700, Chris <chris.863@live.com> wrote:

...snip...
Also prepare for lots of spam now that you used a real (apparently)
email address on your post. These groups are trawled by bots for email
addys...

Chris.

you may notice my email address, somehow google doesn't let/put much spam
to this address, ...yet.

 

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:47:33 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/17/2014 8:06 PM, Joerg wrote:

When I showed up for my first interviews I brought a thick binder with
all my project documentation and photos in there. Couldn't bring much
gear because it was way too big and heavy. Folks at the university said
that would be ridiculous and hiring managers wouldn't take me serious.
Little did they know. It's too long ago but I believe out of six
interviews I got six offers. A few months later I gave one of the hiring
managers who interviewed me a ride home because his car had a problem.
"Hey, George, can we go by your house? I want to see that monster amp
you talked about back in summer."

I'm not sure 100% offer rate is much of an indicator. But I guess it
does indicate that you get the offers which means you can cull the
employers.

Huh?

I used to get 100% offer rate. The headhunters always wanted me to
either accept or turn down an offer quickly without more interviews, but
I wanted to see what else was out there. But now that I am over 50...

When I graduated I would have had a 100% rate, except I told one HR
moron what a piss poor outfit he was running (in front of 30-40 other
candidates - I was pissed at them for the treatment).

well over 50 it is actually hard to get an interview much less an offer.
Age discrimination is real... very real. Fortunately I am not in need
of a job.

It's real enough but it also goes both ways. My boss would be very
reluctant to hire someone much under 50. Of the five engineers, the
youngest is 48 and two are over 60. The mechanical guy he's trying to
get is 65.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:08:13 -0700 (PDT), Chris <chris.863@live.com>
wrote:

On Friday, 18 July 2014 09:20:19 UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:12:34 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid

wrote:



michaelcovington670@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone. I am an electronics student and in the process of

learning, and I was wondering if I could join this group? I am

thinking it would be a good way to learn more from others with more

experience and maybe help me if I have a problem in school that I

can't get answered easily. LOL. I wanted to pop in and ask before I

joined.





No need to join. There is no formal membership in Usenet, no initiation

rituals, hazing, or any of that.



Just send the $40 registration fee to John Larkin.





--



John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc



jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com

http://www.highlandtechnology.com

I'll join you up for $35.00 ;-)

Also prepare for lots of spam now that you used a real (apparently) email address on your post. These groups are trawled by bots for email addys...

Chris.

I get essentially no mail at the jlarkin address.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com