BUSH WINS!

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:15:38 +0000, Paul Burridge
<pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:56:22 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

I am telling you- the reaction around here is one of physical illness
and shock- no one believes this. Something is very wrong.

I listened to the aftermath on the World Service's excellent extended
in-depth coverage. It's about only truthful jewel left in the BBC's
clapped-out crown. There were dark mutterings of civil war coming from
many of the interviewees! Never heard anything like it in m'life!

Absurd.

Feelings certainly are running high.

No, most everybody is tired of it and glad it's over.

Beheleman says the American people can't be blamed for the first 4
years and he's right for once.

Blame? There's nothing to blame *for*.

This reminds me very much of what
happened over here under Thatcher. She kept getting re-elected
(there's no two-times limit here) despite her bellicose warmongering
mentality and eventually,

Nice job recovering the Malvinas. The failure of the Argentine
military dictatorship was such a debacle that they resigned in favor
of a democracy.

even the most pacifist among us were tarred
with the same brush. The attitude among foreigners is that if you
vote someone back in with a record like that, you endorse it. That is
understandable, but very unfair on those who oppose the government in
question.

That's democracy for ya: unfair to the ones who lose the vote!

John

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:57:18 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:


"Bush is the personification of that unashamed America and that is why
Europe cannot bear the sight of him."

That sounds more like it, except putting the blame on the entire
population
isn't fair either. It assumes that the entire population is behind Bush,
which is not. Only about half of it. The only sad thing about this
election
is that now 'we' know that for sure. His first election could be seen as
a
mistake, his re-election is not; people knew what they voted for.

---
Ah yessss...

The ugly reality of it starts to sink in.

We'll do the best we can and what we damned well want to and have to
in order to survive and prosper, and we'll struggle with the results
of _our_ decisions regardless of whether the rest of the stupid,
suicidal world around us gives us permission or thinks it's right or
not.

Do whatever it takes to keep surviving, but please do it within
your own borders. Okay, the USA lost 2 towers and the unlucky folks
that were in it. A *very* unfortunate event.

How much lives have been (violently) terminated since ? Pakistan AND Iraq?

Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth? What version of the 'Good Book'
does Bush read?

Tell me, dear John, tell me. If you know the answer. I'd like to know.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'x' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[Rich Grise]

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:53:40 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:57:18 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:


"Bush is the personification of that unashamed America and that is why
Europe cannot bear the sight of him."

That sounds more like it, except putting the blame on the entire
population
isn't fair either. It assumes that the entire population is behind Bush,
which is not. Only about half of it. The only sad thing about this
election
is that now 'we' know that for sure. His first election could be seen as
a
mistake, his re-election is not; people knew what they voted for.

---
Ah yessss...

The ugly reality of it starts to sink in.

We'll do the best we can and what we damned well want to and have to
in order to survive and prosper, and we'll struggle with the results
of _our_ decisions regardless of whether the rest of the stupid,
suicidal world around us gives us permission or thinks it's right or
not.

Do whatever it takes to keep surviving, but please do it within
your own borders. Okay, the USA lost 2 towers and the unlucky folks
that were in it. A *very* unfortunate event.

How much lives have been (violently) terminated since ? Pakistan AND Iraq?

Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth? What version of the 'Good Book'
does Bush read?

Tell me, dear John, tell me. If you know the answer. I'd like to know.

The thing is, everyone must be tolerant. In fact, intolerance must be
stamped out! Look at those intolerant people! Kill 'em!

Cheers!
RIch

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Paul Burridge wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:56:22 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:


I am telling you- the reaction around here is one of physical illness
and shock- no one believes this. Something is very wrong.


I listened to the aftermath on the World Service's excellent extended
in-depth coverage. It's about only truthful jewel left in the BBC's
clapped-out crown. There were dark mutterings of civil war coming from
many of the interviewees! Never heard anything like it in m'life!
Feelings certainly are running high.
Beheleman says the American people can't be blamed for the first 4
years and he's right for once. This reminds me very much of what
happened over here under Thatcher. She kept getting re-elected
(there's no two-times limit here) despite her bellicose warmongering
mentality and eventually, even the most pacifist among us were tarred
with the same brush. The attitude among foreigners is that if you
vote someone back in with a record like that, you endorse it. That is
understandable, but very unfair on those who oppose the government in
question.

The sad truth is that *all* the American people are going to be punished
for this middle east misadventure. It is no secret that AlQaeda is after
the economic collapse of the US and the most effective way to do this is
cause a major disruption of this incredible foreign oil supply
dependency. There are numerous global security analyses on the web with
which you can familiarize yourself. The US called it wrong in Iraq so
far, there is no reason to believe they used more wisdom in assessing
the security of numerous oil supply chain vulnerabilities that are
totally out of our control- if they considered it all. You add into the
mix the tens of thousands of new and suicidal recruits, and unlimited
supplies of high explosives removed from Iraq- and the equation does not
look very good at all. It is no wonder Bin Laden wanted Bush re-elected.

 

[Brian]

"Brian" <bellis350@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
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Brian wrote:
"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
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Paul Burridge wrote:

It's a funny old world where a guy can get re-elected having
taken
his
country to war over nothing but a Big Lie. A precedent-creating
"pre-emptive strike" where there was no actual threat! We all
make
mistakes, but the least we'd expect if we make a mistake of
that
magnitude would be to get the sack and spend the next few years
in
prison. Instead, his actions have been *endorsed* by the
electorate!
Oh well; it's your business, I guess. I just hope the same
thing
doesn't happen here in Britland in 6 months' time.
Anyway, thank God it's all over. No more OT political postings!
Yippee!!

Well, here's a prediction for Bush's next term.
A vast increase in global terrorism, total alienation of the
Islamic
world,
severe decrease in freedom in the West, and at least one major
NBC
attack on a
Western or US city.

Add to that a the breakup of Iraq and much of it going Islamic
Fundamentalist,
with a Turkish invasion of the North.

Indecisive war with Iran, but without significant US ground
troops
(leading to
accelerated Iranian nuclear programs). Pakistan's Musharraf
assassinated
and the
nation going Islamic Fundie (more so than at present).

Problems with China as it becomes the new New Cold War bogeyman
and
scapegoat.
The US verges on bankruptcy with massive devaluation of the
dollar.
Oil
prices
continue to rise due to ME instability. Recognition that peak
oil
production has
occurred earlier than expected due to such problems.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

You guys are pathetic. Your guy didn't win, because you
didn't come up with someone better, or have a better plan.
Kerry was such a zero, he had very little effect on this
election.
This was more a race between Bush and Bush. His good
points versus his bad points. If your party would've had
someone with something better, had a better vision for this
country, was a motivator instead of a divider, you would've
probably won hands down. All Kerry could do was try to
discredit Bush, because Kerry (and his party), had nothing
better to offer. Sorry guys, you missed a golden
opportunity.
Even though you have lost, you still spread your vile
garbage.
You are like kids, that don't know how to grow up.

My party is in my sigline.
And if you took the trouble to check you'll discover I'm British.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

And if you took the trouble to look, you would see that I was
responding
to what Dirk Bruere wrote.

OOPs! Blush! Sorry.

 

[Clarence]

"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2usap8F2eha2qU1@uni-berlin.de...

Brian wrote:
"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2us2diF2f4l05U1@uni-berlin.de...
Paul Burridge wrote:

It's a funny old world where a guy can get re-elected having taken his
country to war over nothing but a Big Lie. A precedent-creating
"pre-emptive strike" where there was no actual threat! We all make
mistakes, but the least we'd expect if we make a mistake of that
magnitude would be to get the sack and spend the next few years in
prison. Instead, his actions have been *endorsed* by the electorate!
Oh well; it's your business, I guess. I just hope the same thing
doesn't happen here in Britland in 6 months' time.
Anyway, thank God it's all over. No more OT political postings!
Yippee!!

Well, here's a prediction for Bush's next term.
A vast increase in global terrorism, total alienation of the Islamic
world,
severe decrease in freedom in the West, and at least one major NBC
attack on a
Western or US city.

Add to that a the breakup of Iraq and much of it going Islamic
Fundamentalist,
with a Turkish invasion of the North.

Indecisive war with Iran, but without significant US ground troops
(leading to
accelerated Iranian nuclear programs). Pakistan's Musharraf
assassinated
and the
nation going Islamic Fundie (more so than at present).

Problems with China as it becomes the new New Cold War bogeyman and
scapegoat.
The US verges on bankruptcy with massive devaluation of the dollar. Oil
prices
continue to rise due to ME instability. Recognition that peak oil
production has
occurred earlier than expected due to such problems.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

You guys are pathetic. Your guy didn't win, because you
didn't come up with someone better, or have a better plan.
Kerry was such a zero, he had very little effect on this election.
This was more a race between Bush and Bush. His good
points versus his bad points. If your party would've had
someone with something better, had a better vision for this
country, was a motivator instead of a divider, you would've
probably won hands down. All Kerry could do was try to
discredit Bush, because Kerry (and his party), had nothing
better to offer. Sorry guys, you missed a golden opportunity.
Even though you have lost, you still spread your vile garbage.
You are like kids, that don't know how to grow up.

My party is in my sigline.
And if you took the trouble to check you'll discover I'm British.

AND BONE STUPID!

We get it!

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 21:00:14 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:57:18 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:


Is it only 'interesting' or do you agree with the author? Or
is it just another smoke-screen of yours (I know you can't help it).
Please take a position - posting links with a label 'interesting'
is meaningless.


Oh dear, you didn't find it interesting?

I didn't say that. I added some comments. You snipped all that, and
come back with a comment that is -again- a smoke curtain. The topic
was not if I found it interesting or not. Again you try to move the
focus.

I'd prefer if you plonked me. I have no interest in smoke screens.
Either you stick to the contents/topic or shut up.

OK, Frank. I had you plonked with an after-election time-out to see
if you'd improved with age, but you haven't... PLONK ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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[Fred Bloggs]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:51:43 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:


"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Stefan Heinzmann" <stefan_heinzmann@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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So is it any wonder that there's a high level of Bush opposition in
Europe and elsewhere in the world? And most of it is indeed opposition,
not hate, even if the opposition should be rather bitter. And this
opposition is not rooted in a deep old sentiment, it is founded on an
observable track record. And yes, most of us Europeans are able to
distinguish between the people and their government.


The first 4 years of Bush can't be blamed on the American people, indeed
I make a distinction there. But *now* that he is re-elected... half that
nation is either ignorant, hypnotised or plain stupid peasants.


The elections were rigged! They are null and void.

That is indeed a fourth possibility, and more likely than the
others I gave..


Well, I had intended to quit beating a dead horse, but between 51% of the
population voting for W., vs. them rigging the election, I'd rather that
it turned out that the election was not rigged, and it's just simply that
that many people are ignorant, hypontized or just plain stupid.

'Cause if they can rig a whole fckin US election, there is no safety. It
would mean that America, as we knew her, is lost already. It would mean
unheard-of levels of corruption throughout the entire neocon machine.

And it would mean that independent thinkers are fucked. Guess I better
put up a picture of our beloved infallible leader.

Thanks,
Rich

They don't have to rig the entire US- just the big three PA, OH , and
FLA- if the honest vote got Bush somewhat even, the rig would take him
over the top. They succeeded in OH and FLA, and failed in PA. My guess
is that the rig bought him 3 pts minimum.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:53:25 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:51:43 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:


"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Stefan Heinzmann" <stefan_heinzmann@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:cmd4vo$8pc$05$1@news.t-online.com...



So is it any wonder that there's a high level of Bush opposition in
Europe and elsewhere in the world? And most of it is indeed opposition,
not hate, even if the opposition should be rather bitter. And this
opposition is not rooted in a deep old sentiment, it is founded on an
observable track record. And yes, most of us Europeans are able to
distinguish between the people and their government.


The first 4 years of Bush can't be blamed on the American people, indeed
I make a distinction there. But *now* that he is re-elected... half that
nation is either ignorant, hypnotised or plain stupid peasants.


The elections were rigged! They are null and void.

That is indeed a fourth possibility, and more likely than the
others I gave..


Well, I had intended to quit beating a dead horse, but between 51% of the
population voting for W., vs. them rigging the election, I'd rather that
it turned out that the election was not rigged, and it's just simply that
that many people are ignorant, hypontized or just plain stupid.

'Cause if they can rig a whole fckin US election, there is no safety. It
would mean that America, as we knew her, is lost already. It would mean
unheard-of levels of corruption throughout the entire neocon machine.

And it would mean that independent thinkers are fucked. Guess I better
put up a picture of our beloved infallible leader.

Thanks,
Rich



They don't have to rig the entire US- just the big three PA, OH , and
FLA- if the honest vote got Bush somewhat even, the rig would take him
over the top. They succeeded in OH and FLA, and failed in PA. My guess
is that the rig bought him 3 pts minimum.

Hell, Dan Rather bought him three points.

John

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:12:18 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:30:26 -0600, John Fields wrote:

Once upon a time we were neutral and isolationist but, under duress,
we got involved in our friends' wars and have had to maintain a
physical, international presence ever since.

Yup, the 800-pound gorilla gets to shit on anybody he wants to.

---
Yup.
---

"Not going on murderous rampages" does _not_ equal "isolationism."

---
Go back and read a little history before you start trying to pretend
you know what you're talking about.
---

But I'm trying to insert abstract thoughts into concrete heads.

---
Crappola. What you're tring to do is worm your way into the concrete
so you can piss on the rebar to try to make it rust.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:17:06 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:38:07 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 21:00:14 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:57:18 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
Is it only 'interesting' or do you agree with the author? Or
is it just another smoke-screen of yours (I know you can't help it).
Please take a position - posting links with a label 'interesting'
is meaningless.
Oh dear, you didn't find it interesting?
I didn't say that. I added some comments. You snipped all that, and
come back with a comment that is -again- a smoke curtain. The topic
was not if I found it interesting or not. Again you try to move the
focus.
I'd prefer if you plonked me.
Why don't *you* plonk *me*?
Well, I still have some hope that is a small chance that
you would appreciate to see things from anothers' point of
view. But you seem to rather convinced of your own views,
so it is probably a waste of time, trying to explain my
views. All I get it are smoke screens.

I see your point of view quite clearly, and it's the point of view
of an idiot.

But don't let me hurt your feelings, I also see the other points
of view, and I see "flaws" in all of them.

Of course, that means that I'm proclaiming wisdom beyond what
any human has ever achieved, so obviously my POV is that of
a lunatic.

---
Perhaps. Have you ever thought of moving to Guyana?

--
John Fields

 

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

Brian wrote:

"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2usap8F2eha2qU1@uni-berlin.de...
Brian wrote:
"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2us2diF2f4l05U1@uni-berlin.de...
Paul Burridge wrote:

It's a funny old world where a guy can get re-elected having taken
his
country to war over nothing but a Big Lie. A precedent-creating
"pre-emptive strike" where there was no actual threat! We all make
mistakes, but the least we'd expect if we make a mistake of that
magnitude would be to get the sack and spend the next few years in
prison. Instead, his actions have been *endorsed* by the
electorate!
Oh well; it's your business, I guess. I just hope the same thing
doesn't happen here in Britland in 6 months' time.
Anyway, thank God it's all over. No more OT political postings!
Yippee!!

Well, here's a prediction for Bush's next term.
A vast increase in global terrorism, total alienation of the
Islamic
world,
severe decrease in freedom in the West, and at least one major NBC
attack on a
Western or US city.

Add to that a the breakup of Iraq and much of it going Islamic
Fundamentalist,
with a Turkish invasion of the North.

Indecisive war with Iran, but without significant US ground troops
(leading to
accelerated Iranian nuclear programs). Pakistan's Musharraf
assassinated
and the
nation going Islamic Fundie (more so than at present).

Problems with China as it becomes the new New Cold War bogeyman and
scapegoat.
The US verges on bankruptcy with massive devaluation of the dollar.
Oil
prices
continue to rise due to ME instability. Recognition that peak oil
production has
occurred earlier than expected due to such problems.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

You guys are pathetic. Your guy didn't win, because you
didn't come up with someone better, or have a better plan.
Kerry was such a zero, he had very little effect on this
election.
This was more a race between Bush and Bush. His good
points versus his bad points. If your party would've had
someone with something better, had a better vision for this
country, was a motivator instead of a divider, you would've
probably won hands down. All Kerry could do was try to
discredit Bush, because Kerry (and his party), had nothing
better to offer. Sorry guys, you missed a golden opportunity.
Even though you have lost, you still spread your vile garbage.
You are like kids, that don't know how to grow up.

My party is in my sigline.
And if you took the trouble to check you'll discover I'm British.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

And if you took the trouble to look, you would see that I was responding
to what Dirk Bruere wrote.

Er... the Democrats are not my party.
The Consensus is.
Additionally, we shall see who is right in 4yrs (or sooner).
My predictions are on record.
Care to make some of your own?

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:36:12 -0600, "Brian" <bellis350@comcast.net>
wrote:

John, is this guy Rich for real? Or is he just pulling our chain?
I just can't imagine someone being so hateful and stupid. He
must belong to the Michael Moore gang.

I don't know. There are some people who honestly believe you can only
get something by taking it away from somebody else, and that everybody
wants to do just that. It's an obviously silly notion, but widely
believed.

Michael Moore got *very* rich selling the concept!

John

 

[Rich Grise]

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:36:12 -0600, Brian wrote:

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2004.11.04.03.33.49.748733@example.net...
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 20:23:48 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 07:55:21 +1100, "Adam. Seychell"
invald@invalid.com> wrote:



Well, I couldn't agree more. If robber were to rob a bank then he/she
wouldn't get very far going the passive approach, they'll need a big
gun
or something. Similarly, if the Bush administration wants America to
have domination and prosperity at the expense of other nations then it
certainly cannot take the passive approach either.


Prosperity is not a zero-sum game, and the US does not need to be
prosperous at anyone's expense. The history of the world is exactly
opposite: the more that democracy, education, and health spread, the
better off everyone is. America's "hegemony" is the spread of
democracy; call that domination if you will. If the US wanted to be
the permanent, exclusive superpower, it would want the rest of the
world to stay sunk in poverty, communism, and religious
fundamentalism; that's not what's happening.

Oh, Come ON!

How fucking duh can you get?

Can you not observe?

Thanks,
Rich



John, is this guy Rich for real? Or is he just pulling our chain?
I just can't imagine someone being so hateful and stupid. He
must belong to the Michael Moore gang.

Yup, I'm one of the overwhelming crowd of the hateful and stupid who
have, perhaps stupidly, been trying to bring wisdom to the terminally
evil.

But it's common knowledge that evil always trumps love, when it comes
to the ability to commit mass murder.

I guess it's a lot safer to side with the winners. It's a lot easier
to submit to the jackbooted thugs and sing praises to the one who so
graciously allows you to lick the dogshit off his hobnailed boot,
than to be a fully realized being, who can tell the difference between
principle and obedience.

Once again, a demonstration of the power of self-deception.

Thanks again!
Rich

 

[Clarence]

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelman@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:57:18 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:


Is it only 'interesting' or do you agree with the author? Or
is it just another smoke-screen of yours (I know you can't help it).
Please take a position - posting links with a label 'interesting'
is meaningless.


Oh dear, you didn't find it interesting?

I didn't say that. I added some comments. You snipped all that, and
come back with a comment that is -again- a smoke curtain. The topic
was not if I found it interesting or not. Again you try to move the
focus.

I'd prefer if you plonked me. I have no interest in smoke screens.
Either you stick to the contents/topic or shut up.

--
We have all hoped you would do that!

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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Frank Bemelman wrote:
"Stefan Heinzmann" <stefan_heinzmann@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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So is it any wonder that there's a high level of Bush opposition in
Europe and elsewhere in the world? And most of it is indeed opposition,
not hate, even if the opposition should be rather bitter. And this
opposition is not rooted in a deep old sentiment, it is founded on an
observable track record. And yes, most of us Europeans are able to
distinguish between the people and their government.


The first 4 years of Bush can't be blamed on the American people, indeed
I make a distinction there. But *now* that he is re-elected... half that
nation is either ignorant, hypnotised or plain stupid peasants.


The elections were rigged! They are null and void.

That is indeed a fourth possibility, and more likely than the
others I gave..

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[John Fields]

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:36:12 -0600, "Brian" <bellis350@comcast.net>
wrote:

John, is this guy Rich for real? Or is he just pulling our chain?
I just can't imagine someone being so hateful and stupid. He
must belong to the Michael Moore gang.

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Rich is a sheep in wolf's clothing, and he's a little upset because
his wardrobe's getting tattered.

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[Frank Bemelman]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:57:30 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:


half that
nation is either ignorant, hypnotised or plain stupid peasants.


Who design the best weapons in the world.

You mean a 747 aimed at a skyscraper?

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