Bovril Vs Marmite

"Genome" <dna@nothere.net> wrote in message
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What's best on a toasted bacon sandwich with excess butter?
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http://www.mabot.com/random/bovril/
 
"john jardine" wrote:

But for those of us not "in the know," what is E621? Sounds like an
essential ingredient, if I want to nake Bovril at home!!


(bon appetit :)
It's the (E)uropean coding number for the allowed food additive "Monosodium
Glutamate". I've occasionally seen it as 'seasoning salt'.
Seems nowadays the main ingredient in most UK packaged foods.
The recent health drive to lower salt and sugar levels in UK processed foods
may assist in this matter.
regards
john
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And as I and several other people are finding out we are now replacing a *very*
minor risk of raised blood pressure due to high salt intake with this....

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/m/monosodium_glutamate_msg_adverse_reaction/
intro.htm

Even packaged sausages make me go severely dizzy.

Gibbo
 
Genome wrote:

What's best on a toasted bacon sandwich with excess butter?
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Neither.
They both taste like salty crap.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
I wrote:

Apparently MSG (like caffeine) is quite a strong vasodilator, Alcohol has the
opposite effect. So I was told.
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And that should have read "vasoconstrictor".

Gibbo
 
"ChrisGibboGibson" <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> wrote in message
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I wrote:

Apparently MSG (like caffeine) is quite a strong vasodilator, Alcohol has
the
opposite effect. So I was told.


And that should have read "vasoconstrictor".

Gibbo
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Ying and Yang suggest half pissed as best life option. I'll vote for that
:)
regards
john
 
Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

[snip]

I was trying for that, and came down with acute pancreatitis. )-;

Thank Goddess for Pot! It lets you eat _anything_! ;-)
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I think I have a sensitivity to pot too because if I eat even an ounce of the
stuff it makes me feel very ill.

Gibbo
 
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:31:19 +0000, john jardine wrote:

"ChrisGibboGibson" <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> wrote in message
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I wrote:

Apparently MSG (like caffeine) is quite a strong vasodilator, Alcohol has
the
opposite effect. So I was told.


And that should have read "vasoconstrictor".

Gibbo

Ying and Yang suggest half pissed as best life option. I'll vote for that
:)
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I was trying for that, and came down with acute pancreatitis. )-;

Thank Goddess for Pot! It lets you eat _anything_! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
ChrisGibboGibson wrote:
Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

[snip]


I was trying for that, and came down with acute pancreatitis. )-;

Thank Goddess for Pot! It lets you eat _anything_! ;-)



I think I have a sensitivity to pot too because if I eat even an ounce of the
stuff it makes me feel very ill.

Gibbo
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LOL :)

Our standard party trick when teenagers was to eat the capsule after
almost all the hash oil had been scraped out with a needle. Man, did
that getya blasted.

OTOH I used to know a guy in Auckland who ate fried pot - he only got
nice sticky bud, and fried it in a pan before eating it. He was one of
those short, scrawny sickly types, asthmatic and allergic to everything.

Cheers
Terry
 
Terry Given wrote:

[snip]

OTOH I used to know a guy in Auckland who ate fried pot - he only got
nice sticky bud, and fried it in a pan before eating it. He was one of
those short, scrawny sickly types, asthmatic and allergic to everything.
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Which, in my mind, begs the old question about cause and effect.

Gibbo
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:02:23 +1300, Terry Given <my_name@ieee.org
wrote:


Max Hauser wrote:


"Tim Wescott" in news:10ot8ed14cu8f19@corp.supernews.com...


What the hell is Bovril? What the hell is Marmite? Is this
just revenge for all the US-specific political stuff that's
been going on?

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services


You could try looking them up if you happen not to have heard of them. (It
is not necessary to write as if that were someone else's responsibility.)
They've even been topics before on this group:

http://tinyurl.com/6pqyw

These products have been readily available in the US for decades, for anyone
who cared to notice. (And it is hard enought trying to represent the US as
a civilized country, even without this sort of thing.)



Bovril is a revolting think that british people apparently drink - I
belive it is a throwback to ancient "rite-of-passage" rituals involving
self-mutilation (nowadays referred to as self-expression)

Marmite (at least the jar I have in front of me) is essentially a yeast
extract - black glop that is great as a spread on sandwiches (especially
with ready-salted potato crisps) or toast. It has yeast, suger, salt,
mineral salt, maltodextrin and caramel.

I used to be able to buy the stuff in Boston, its not that hard to find

Cheers
Terry


Isn't Marmite the guck they scrape out of beer fermentation vats?

John
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Pretty much. And yummy too :)

AFAIK the main difference between vegemite and marmite is which brewery....

Cheers
Terry
 
"ChrisGibboGibson" <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> wrote in message
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"john jardine" wrote:

But for those of us not "in the know," what is E621? Sounds like an
essential ingredient, if I want to nake Bovril at home!!


(bon appetit :)
It's the (E)uropean coding number for the allowed food additive
"Monosodium
Glutamate". I've occasionally seen it as 'seasoning salt'.
Seems nowadays the main ingredient in most UK packaged foods.
The recent health drive to lower salt and sugar levels in UK processed
foods
may assist in this matter.
regards
john


And as I and several other people are finding out we are now replacing a
*very*
minor risk of raised blood pressure due to high salt intake with this....

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/m/monosodium_glutamate_msg_adverse_reaction/
intro.htm

Even packaged sausages make me go severely dizzy.

Gibbo
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Same here!. Realised about 10 years ago I was sensitive to the stuff. So now
eat few processed foods.
But ... :) Just have to have an occasional Chinky, even though I know 10
minutes later I'll break out in a MSG induced, cold sweat.
Odd thing is, I've now come across a number of people who exhibit various
levels of MSG intolerance, yet it's never brought up as an issue in food
safety research. "Sunny D" and Tartrazine everyone knows about, as that
stuff clearly turns kids Yellow. How many folk I wonder, are being treated
for a stomach ulcer, when in reality MSG could be the root cause.
regards
john
 
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"Joe McElvenney" <ximac@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Bovril is a beef extract meant to be used as a flavour
enhancer in stews, casseroles, etc. It also makes quite a good
comfort drink when mixed with hot water.

The yeast extract alternatives show their shortcomings when used this way.

Mind you, one wonders what bits of the bovine are used to make Bovril.
I suspect if we knew, it might not be so popular.

I quite like the taste of this classic, British, high quality, food product.
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After all the edible, offal and pet food products have been removed, the
bones and hide trimmings are boiled down to make the classic woodworking
glue.
The scum that develops on the boiling vats is scraped off, mixed 50%-50%
with E621, put in little black bottles and then sold to us suckers :)
regards
john
 
Bovril label says:

" Ingredients:
Yeast extract (45%), Maltodextrin, Rice flour, salt, flavourings, colour
(E150c), Waxy maize starch, Lactic acid, Flavour enhancer (disodium 5
ribonucleide), Niacin, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Spice extract,
Celery extract, Vitamin B12."

"Suitable for vegetarians."

WTF?!

Wot No Meat?

I expected some extract of beef by-products and monosodium glutamate.

Seems like it is just a load of Bull!
 
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:00:34 -0000, the renowned "john jardine"
<john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

"Kryten" <kryten_droid_obfusticator@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Bovril label says:

" Ingredients:
Yeast extract (45%), Maltodextrin, Rice flour, salt, flavourings, colour
(E150c), Waxy maize starch, Lactic acid, Flavour enhancer (disodium 5
ribonucleide), Niacin, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Spice extract,
Celery extract, Vitamin B12."

"Suitable for vegetarians."

WTF?!

Wot No Meat?

I expected some extract of beef by-products and monosodium glutamate.

Seems like it is just a load of Bull!



Sad sigh ... such is life.
Government poisons lab must have finally identified the original ingredients
:)
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ISTR something happening in the recent past that may have made them
reluctant to continue using bovine spinal cord as a cheap ingredient.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:00:34 -0000, the renowned "john jardine"
john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

Sad sigh ... such is life.
Government poisons lab must have finally identified the original
ingredients
:)

ISTR something happening in the recent past that may have made them
reluctant to continue using bovine spinal cord as a cheap ingredient.

Shhh!. We're not supposed to remember that.
Researchers have just recently started worrying again about the potential
number of people who may have been infected.
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The Offal Truth has a habit of getting out.

I recall a greeting card drawn in the style of a fifties horror movie
poster,
entitled
"The Job that Ate My Brain".

Perhaps now it could be "The Brain I Ate that Ate my Brain".

I also recall a low-budget movie called "The Stuff", about a pudding that
took over people's minds when they ate enough of it. Of course it was highly
addictive, to encourage this.

I can't say I died laughing, but if you follow Doctor Lecter's hair-raising
cuisine on some Kuru-infected native, then perhaps you might. Fromage du
tete, anyone?
 
" Ingredients:
Yeast extract (45%), Maltodextrin, Rice flour, salt, flavourings, colour
(E150c), Waxy maize starch, Lactic acid, Flavour enhancer (disodium 5
ribonucleide), Niacin, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Spice extract,
Celery extract, Vitamin B12."

"Suitable for vegetarians."

WTF?!

Wot No Meat?
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I think the political posts were more interesting....


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On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:35:36 GMT, the renowned "Kryten"
<kryten_droid_obfusticator@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Joe McElvenney" <ximac@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:VA.0000003c.0028977a@btinternet.com...

Bovril is a beef extract meant to be used as a flavour
enhancer in stews, casseroles, etc. It also makes quite a good
comfort drink when mixed with hot water.

The yeast extract alternatives show their shortcomings when used this way.

Mind you, one wonders what bits of the bovine are used to make Bovril.
I suspect if we knew, it might not be so popular.
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It apparently was developed for the French military:

http://www.ubfoods.co.uk/product/savoury_bovril.asp

No word on what bits they use tho.

http://www.medianet.ca/bovril/bvrlinfo/gallery/bovrilsh.jpg
http://www.medianet.ca/bovril/bvrlinfo/gallery/bovrilnm.jpg
http://www.medianet.ca/bovril/bvrlinfo/gallery/bovril1.jpg
 
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:14:40 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:00:34 -0000, the renowned "john jardine"
"Kryten" <kryten_droid_obfusticator@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
Bovril label says:
" Ingredients:
Yeast extract (45%), Maltodextrin, Rice flour, salt, flavourings, colour
(E150c), Waxy maize starch, Lactic acid, Flavour enhancer (disodium 5
ribonucleide), Niacin, Thiamine, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Spice extract,
Celery extract, Vitamin B12."
"Suitable for vegetarians."
WTF?!
Wot No Meat?
I expected some extract of beef by-products and monosodium glutamate.
Seems like it is just a load of Bull!
Sad sigh ... such is life.
Government poisons lab must have finally identified the original ingredients
:)
ISTR something happening in the recent past that may have made them
reluctant to continue using bovine spinal cord as a cheap ingredient.
Click to expand...
Bovilexia?
http://www.google.com/search?q=bovilexia+sniglet&btnG=Search

;^j
Rich
 
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