Bonkers GPS

[F Murtz]

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?
All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

 

[news13]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:39:38 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine
day?

Power lines in the right direction. seem to have an affect

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads,

If there are parallel roads, then our garmin often gives the speed limit
for the secondary road, e.g. the M1 from Hornsby north, if continually
highlights the speed in red and says it is a 60/80km/h zone.

gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

You'd have to check the coverage details during the time.

 

[F Murtz]

news13 wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:39:38 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine
day?

Power lines in the right direction. seem to have an affect


All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads,

If there are parallel roads, then our garmin often gives the speed limit
for the secondary road, e.g. the M1 from Hornsby north, if continually
highlights the speed in red and says it is a 60/80km/h zone.

none of which explains why it only happened on this one day and not the
rest of the year.

gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

You'd have to check the coverage details during the time.

 

[news13]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 01:17:35 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

news13 wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:39:38 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly
fine day?

Power lines in the right direction. seem to have an affect


All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads,

If there are parallel roads, then our garmin often gives the speed
limit for the secondary road, e.g. the M1 from Hornsby north, if
continually highlights the speed in red and says it is a 60/80km/h
zone.

none of which explains why it only happened on this one day and not the
rest of the year.

Gap in coverage by satellite resetting?
You've been a victim of gps haking?
SBFMTFPT.

Oh what brand?
Low battery?

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2014-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?

satellites are pretty reliable hardware, the only temporary outages
I'm aware of as sun outages, but GPS should be immune to that.

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Could be "regional denial" either some goon with an intentional or
unintentional jammer or a legit military exercise.

--
umop apisdn


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[Jeßus]

On 20 Aug 2014 21:43:30 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?

satellites are pretty reliable hardware, the only temporary outages
I'm aware of as sun outages, but GPS should be immune to that.

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Could be "regional denial" either some goon with an intentional or
unintentional jammer or a legit military exercise.

I have a jammer, tried it on my Navman and it didn't behave that way,
only effect appeared to be losing the satellite.

 

[Clocky]

On 20/08/2014 11:17 PM, F Murtz wrote:

news13 wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:39:38 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine
day?

Power lines in the right direction. seem to have an affect


All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads,

If there are parallel roads, then our garmin often gives the speed limit
for the secondary road, e.g. the M1 from Hornsby north, if continually
highlights the speed in red and says it is a 60/80km/h zone.

none of which explains why it only happened on this one day and not the
rest of the year.

The coverage will be fine, if it can't find satellites it would tell you so.

Perhaps the unit didn't boot properly on that one occasion and screwed
it up and upon subsequent reboot was fine.

 

[F Murtz]

Clocky wrote:

On 20/08/2014 11:17 PM, F Murtz wrote:
news13 wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:39:38 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine
day?

Power lines in the right direction. seem to have an affect


All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads,

If there are parallel roads, then our garmin often gives the speed limit
for the secondary road, e.g. the M1 from Hornsby north, if continually
highlights the speed in red and says it is a 60/80km/h zone.

none of which explains why it only happened on this one day and not the
rest of the year.


The coverage will be fine, if it can't find satellites it would tell you
so.

Perhaps the unit didn't boot properly on that one occasion and screwed
it up and upon subsequent reboot was fine.

During the drive I reset (little hole in back) three times which had no
effect(same behavior before and after)

 

[Clocky]

On 21/08/2014 9:58 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Clocky wrote:
On 20/08/2014 11:17 PM, F Murtz wrote:
news13 wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:39:38 +1000, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly
fine
day?

Power lines in the right direction. seem to have an affect


All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads,

If there are parallel roads, then our garmin often gives the speed
limit
for the secondary road, e.g. the M1 from Hornsby north, if continually
highlights the speed in red and says it is a 60/80km/h zone.

none of which explains why it only happened on this one day and not the
rest of the year.


The coverage will be fine, if it can't find satellites it would tell you
so.

Perhaps the unit didn't boot properly on that one occasion and screwed
it up and upon subsequent reboot was fine.

During the drive I reset (little hole in back) three times which had no
effect(same behavior before and after)

You wouldn't be the first to be affected by some random GPS issue it seems.

What make/model GPS is it?

 

[Chris Jones]

On 20/08/2014 23:39, F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine
day?
All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Maybe:
http://www.acma.gov.au/theACMA/engage-blogs/engage-blogs/Interference/On-the-road-tackling-GPS-jammer-use

 

[~misfit~]

Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:

Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly
fine day? All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed
registration and zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally
different roads,
gave ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my
unit or could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and
have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Interestingly I just drove home from Auckland and noticed that my normally
very accurate and stable GPS was displaying 'jumpy' speed, going up from 98
to 110, back to 102... It'd settle for a while then do similar. I tought it
odd. Now reading this I wonder if they're related.

I know a charter boat skipper who said that during the first gulf war the
GPS was very unreliable - accurate to within maybe 250m but nowhere near the
accurate to ~5m that it was before and after. He said he'd been told the
Americans had nerfed the civilian access to the sats by a certain offset to
confound the enemy.

Made me wonder if there was war happening somewhere in the world right now -
or planned for the near future.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

 

[Toby]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:16:18 +1000, Chris Jones blathered on in:

On 20/08/2014 23:39, F Murtz wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine
day?
All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Maybe:
http://www.acma.gov.au/theACMA/engage-blogs/engage-blogs/Interference/On-the-road-tackling-GPS-jammer-use

Interesting - have to check who's close handy that might have a reason
to use a local jammer.
I had NFI these devices had managed a foot-hold, so to speak

--
Toby

 

[Clocky]

On 23/08/2014 3:58 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:

Once upon a time on usenet F Murtz wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly
fine day? All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed
registration and zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally
different roads,
gave ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my
unit or could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and
have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Interestingly I just drove home from Auckland and noticed that my normally
very accurate and stable GPS was displaying 'jumpy' speed, going up from 98
to 110, back to 102... It'd settle for a while then do similar. I tought it
odd. Now reading this I wonder if they're related.

I know a charter boat skipper who said that during the first gulf war the
GPS was very unreliable - accurate to within maybe 250m but nowhere near the
accurate to ~5m that it was before and after. He said he'd been told the
Americans had nerfed the civilian access to the sats by a certain offset to
confound the enemy.

Made me wonder if there was war happening somewhere in the world right now -
or planned for the near future.

I doubt they would change the time signals on the sats.

 

[Clocky]

On 21/08/2014 6:30 AM, Jeßus wrote:

On 20 Aug 2014 21:43:30 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?

satellites are pretty reliable hardware, the only temporary outages
I'm aware of as sun outages, but GPS should be immune to that.

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Could be "regional denial" either some goon with an intentional or
unintentional jammer or a legit military exercise.


I have a jammer, tried it on my Navman and it didn't behave that way,
only effect appeared to be losing the satellite.

Some GPS's may behave differently, and maybe some jammers work
differently in terms of what effect they cause?

I didn't know these were in use by truck drivers and others.

 

[news13]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:16:46 +1000, Jeßus wrote:

Great when you have a friend's 30 something y/o son in your car and
they're glued to that screen... or in a doctor's waiting room, or the
supermarket... The other week in Launceston I saw this bloke mow his
lawn - for the whole time I watched him, I never saw him look away from
his fucking phone.

Welcome to the wonderful modern world where you communicate with the
world entirely through some mobile device. At one stage, people waiting
for lifts at least acknowledged those around them, but now it is totally
eyes to the screen playing some stupid game or reading the faeces or twat
feeds.

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:09:58 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 21/08/2014 6:30 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On 20 Aug 2014 21:43:30 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?

satellites are pretty reliable hardware, the only temporary outages
I'm aware of as sun outages, but GPS should be immune to that.

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Could be "regional denial" either some goon with an intentional or
unintentional jammer or a legit military exercise.


I have a jammer, tried it on my Navman and it didn't behave that way,
only effect appeared to be losing the satellite.


Some GPS's may behave differently, and maybe some jammers work
differently in terms of what effect they cause?

Probably.

>I didn't know these were in use by truck drivers and others.

Neither did I (re: the truckies).

I was compelled to buy one because I can't stand fuckwits staring into
a tiny screen no matter where they are or what they're doing.

Great when you have a friend's 30 something y/o son in your car and
they're glued to that screen... or in a doctor's waiting room, or the
supermarket... The other week in Launceston I saw this bloke mow his
lawn - for the whole time I watched him, I never saw him look away
from his fucking phone.

 

[Clocky]

On 24/08/2014 8:16 AM, Jeßus wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:09:58 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 21/08/2014 6:30 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On 20 Aug 2014 21:43:30 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?

satellites are pretty reliable hardware, the only temporary outages
I'm aware of as sun outages, but GPS should be immune to that.

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Could be "regional denial" either some goon with an intentional or
unintentional jammer or a legit military exercise.


I have a jammer, tried it on my Navman and it didn't behave that way,
only effect appeared to be losing the satellite.


Some GPS's may behave differently, and maybe some jammers work
differently in terms of what effect they cause?

Probably.

I didn't know these were in use by truck drivers and others.

Neither did I (re: the truckies).

I was compelled to buy one because I can't stand fuckwits staring into
a tiny screen no matter where they are or what they're doing.

Yeah, I hate those morons too.

Great when you have a friend's 30 something y/o son in your car and
they're glued to that screen... or in a doctor's waiting room, or the
supermarket... The other week in Launceston I saw this bloke mow his
lawn - for the whole time I watched him, I never saw him look away
from his fucking phone.

How does a GPS jammer have any effect on what people see on their
screens when they are texting, twitfaecing etc or is there more to them?

 

[Clocky]

On 24/08/2014 11:00 AM, news13 wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:16:46 +1000, Jeßus wrote:


Great when you have a friend's 30 something y/o son in your car and
they're glued to that screen... or in a doctor's waiting room, or the
supermarket... The other week in Launceston I saw this bloke mow his
lawn - for the whole time I watched him, I never saw him look away from
his fucking phone.

Welcome to the wonderful modern world where you communicate with the
world entirely through some mobile device. At one stage, people waiting
for lifts at least acknowledged those around them, but now it is totally
eyes to the screen playing some stupid game or reading the faeces or twat
feeds.

Worse is that they think it is "social" networking.

The more they connect with their stupid devices the more they disconnect
from the real world and society.

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:09:58 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 21/08/2014 6:30 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On 20 Aug 2014 21:43:30 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-08-20, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Is it possible for satelites to go bonkers for a while on a fairly fine day?

satellites are pretty reliable hardware, the only temporary outages
I'm aware of as sun outages, but GPS should be immune to that.

All this afternoon my GPS went up and down in speed registration and
zero speed for lengths of time, put me on totally different roads, gave
ridiculous directions (between Bargo and Mount Druit)is it my unit or
could the signal be weird? I have had GPSs for a long while and have
never seen the like before.
On the way home at night from Trivia it behaved normally.

Could be "regional denial" either some goon with an intentional or
unintentional jammer or a legit military exercise.


I have a jammer, tried it on my Navman and it didn't behave that way,
only effect appeared to be losing the satellite.


Some GPS's may behave differently, and maybe some jammers work
differently in terms of what effect they cause?

Probably.

I didn't know these were in use by truck drivers and others.

Neither did I (re: the truckies).

I was compelled to buy one because I can't stand fuckwits staring into
a tiny screen no matter where they are or what they're doing.

Great when you have a friend's 30 something y/o son in your car and
they're glued to that screen... or in a doctor's waiting room, or the
supermarket... The other week in Launceston I saw this bloke mow his
lawn - for the whole time I watched him, I never saw him look away
from his fucking phone.

Is a phone jammer the same as a GPS jammer?

 

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:31:27 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:

On 24/08/2014 8:16 AM, Jeßus wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:09:58 +0800, Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
I was compelled to buy one because I can't stand fuckwits staring into
a tiny screen no matter where they are or what they're doing.


Yeah, I hate those morons too.

There's an awful lot of them around these days.

Great when you have a friend's 30 something y/o son in your car and
they're glued to that screen... or in a doctor's waiting room, or the
supermarket... The other week in Launceston I saw this bloke mow his
lawn - for the whole time I watched him, I never saw him look away
from his fucking phone.


How does a GPS jammer have any effect on what people see on their
screens when they are texting, twitfaecing etc or is there more to them?

No, they can still see their screen - they just don't have
phone/Internet access when in range of the jammer.