Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:54:04 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
<gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

Cell phones cost a lot to call, landlines less and the secondary provider
landlines are very cheap.

We have number portability in the US, which means the prefix can no
longer be used to determine the type of phone or the general location.

For cell phones, while the rest of the planet the caller pays, in the
US, the call recipient pays, making cell phone spam profitable.

The Federal Trade Commission do not call list is widely ignored by
international telemarketers.
<http://www.donotcall.gov>
<http://transition.fcc.gov/cgb/donotcall/>
The do not call list does not cover calls within a State. However
most states simply pass the problem to the federal system. For
example, California:
<http://oag.ca.gov/donotcall>
Calls are still permitted from:
(1) collection agencies and creditors,
(2) political organizations,
(3) charities,
(4) pollsters and individuals doing surveys and
(5) companies with whom you have an existing business relationship.
A company may call you for 18 months after you make a purchase
or three months after you submit an inquiry or application.

All of the phone solicitations I receive fall into these exceptions.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Dave Platt]

In article <h40qv61un9p4749uso1q3rn89du4o3gil6@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

About 10 years ago, I threw together a home IVR system that almost
worked. It would grab and store the caller ID, but not ring the phone
no matter how many times the caller would ring. However, if the same
caller ID called back within about 3 minutes, the phone would ring
normally. I would tell my friends and accomplises to call twice. The
problem was that many callers didn't have caller ID active. I also
missed some important calls.

I ended up doing something vaguely similar, recently, when we switched
my wife's business line from a dedicated AT&T landline to a VoIP
connection. We terminate the incoming VoIP call at a small home
server running Asterisk, which has some blacklisting capabilities
built in, and the potential for more via dialplan scripting.

My current recipe:

(1) Any blacklisted number (the prolific "ADA" phonespammer being the
lead among them) - the call is rejected with a "congestion"
response. Phone never rings - from the telco's point of view the
call is never answered, and the caller hears a fast-busy.

[2] Calls which provide caller-ID, from any of the area codes near
ours (most of my wife's clients) or a couple of distant cities...
rings the business phone / answering machine immediately.

[3] All others - answer, robo-voice "Please wait to be connected",
wait 10 seconds, ring the business phone if the call is still alive.

Rule (3) seems to deter most sales-slime... they hang up rather than
wait.

I've also got a couple of three-digit codes programmed in, to add the
most recent caller to the blacklist, or remove if in error.

The total number of nuisance calls she has to deal with is down by
around 90% since the old land-line days.

--
Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:41:30 -0700, dplatt@radagast.org (Dave Platt)
wrote:

I ended up doing something vaguely similar, recently, when we switched
my wife's business line from a dedicated AT&T landline to a VoIP
connection.

Note that business to business telemarketing calls are exempt from the
do not call rules:
<http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt129-qa-telemarketers-sellers-about-dnc-provisions-tsr#exempt>

We terminate the incoming VoIP call at a small home
server running Asterisk, which has some blacklisting capabilities
built in, and the potential for more via dialplan scripting.

Android cell phone blacklist software (with huge blacklist of numbers
included).
<http://www.everycall.us/product/call-control-android/>
Same with OOma VoIP:
<http://ooma.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/194/~/personal-and-community-blacklists>

My current recipe:

(1) Any blacklisted number (the prolific "ADA" phonespammer being the
lead among them) - the call is rejected with a "congestion"
response. Phone never rings - from the telco's point of view the
call is never answered, and the caller hears a fast-busy.

[2] Calls which provide caller-ID, from any of the area codes near
ours (most of my wife's clients) or a couple of distant cities...
rings the business phone / answering machine immediately.

[3] All others - answer, robo-voice "Please wait to be connected",
wait 10 seconds, ring the business phone if the call is still alive.

Rule (3) seems to deter most sales-slime... they hang up rather than
wait.

Nice. That should work. The basic idea is if unidentified, to waste
their time. Since telemarketers don't like to sit on hold, they just
leave. However, they often come back. I was just hanging up on one
idiot caller, who would just wait about 30 minutes, and call again. He
eventually went away when I asked for the name of his telemarketing
organization.

On a customers system, I plagiarized a script I found on the net, that
was designed to irritate telemarketers.
<http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AEL+Telemarketer+Torture>
It was fun for a while, until a very important caller got stuck with
it.

I later had it making Strowger switch sounds before ringing.
<http://www.seg.co.uk/telecomm/step1.wav>
Those with a clue thought it was cute. Those too young to remember a
step CO, were confused.

I've also got a couple of three-digit codes programmed in, to add the
most recent caller to the blacklist, or remove if in error.

Also nice. List management is not fun.

The total number of nuisance calls she has to deal with is down by
around 90% since the old land-line days.

I must be leading a charmed life. I get very few unsolicited calls on
any of my 4 assorted numbers. The few that I get are from exempt
organizations, my long lost college, a few clueless head hunters, and
desperate usenet readers needing help with their wireless. I guess
being mean and nasty pays.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Bruce Esquibel]

Wild_Bill <wb_wildbill@xspamyahoo.com> wrote:

I was gonna mench, there was a device marketed in the 80s, I think, that
wouldn't even ring your phone until the caller entered a 3-digit number.. it
might'a been the AES company.

No outgoing message, that I recall, it required all callers to know the
owner, and call from a touchtone phone, IIRC.
Maybe it was before the 80s.. quite a while before caller ID was available.

Privcode, if thats the same one you are thinking of.

I had two of them, worked great. For that time period it was a well thought
out device. If they didn't have a touch tone phone to punch in the code (you
could issue up to 16 different ones, I think), it would start to speak the
numbers (one, two, three...) and the caller could say "stop".

There was like one dummy code to hand out, would just ring for the caller,
wouldn't ring the phone on your end. 123 always went straight to the
answering machine.

Even came with a deck of cards you could write out the code number issued,
along with the instructions for the caller about how to get in.

Best feature was, it intercepted the incoming call. If someone dialed the
number and had no code, end of story, never rang your phone.

Biggest problem with them was with lighting strikes, even a near-by one
seemed to blow the unit, not a direct hit either. Kinda pricey for the time,
was either like $600 or $800 in late 1980's dollars.

I think the common place caller-id and cheap digital answering machines
killed off the company, but that really was a great device.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

 

[Meat Plow]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:54:04 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Meat Plow wrote:
Now my mom has digital phone on cable and she gets several of these
calls every day. She ignores them if she doesn't recognize the caller
ID. Before she switched to digital phone she seldom got telemarketing
calls. I think the cable company got hacked into and phone numbers were
stolen and they never told anyone. My girlfriend also has digital phone
from the same cable provider and she gets telemarketing calls all day
long. I asked her if she was plagued with these calls with a
traditional land line with the same number and she said no. This
bolsters my thinking there was a breech in the cable company's security
or maybe they just flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they
would never admit to either the numerous times I've talked to them at
their main office.

Do they have a unique prefix? Here the landline numbers are
02,03,04,06,08,09, cell phones 05 and the various secondary landline
(e.g. cable, DSL remarketers, etc are 07).

Cell phones cost a lot to call, landlines less and the secondary
provider landlines are very cheap.

Although you can port a number from one to others, no one seems to
notice.

Maybe they have a similar setup and call the cable phone numbers hoping
to get a hit without having a list.

BTW, one way you can get around this is if you live in the US is to use
Google voice. You can program in a list of numbers to forward, numbers
to reject, numbers to go to voice mail and numbers to screen (ask for
name).

Another is with a SKYPE incoming number. I cheat and have my incoming
voicemail message the old three tone pattern which tells an autodialer
its a dead number. Once you get a call from a number, you can select
block this number and they get a number not in service error if they
call you.

I wish there was a realtime black hole list for asterisk systems
(freeware PBX software) like there is for SPAM email addresses. I.E.
your asterisk system would check a database of SPAM callers and reject
the call, with someone maintining a global list.

Geoff.

Yeah, no prefixes here to distinguish between land, dsl, cable, or cell.
My mom has a decent caller blocking system, I just need to get over there
and program it for her.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

 

[Alias]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:50:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<newsan.2011.06.20.19.49.40@emutt.macspoofer.lmao&gt:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:54:04 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Meat Plow wrote:
Now my mom has digital phone on cable and she gets several of these
calls every day. She ignores them if she doesn't recognize the caller
ID. Before she switched to digital phone she seldom got telemarketing
calls. I think the cable company got hacked into and phone numbers were
stolen and they never told anyone. My girlfriend also has digital phone
from the same cable provider and she gets telemarketing calls all day
long. I asked her if she was plagued with these calls with a
traditional land line with the same number and she said no. This
bolsters my thinking there was a breech in the cable company's security
or maybe they just flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they
would never admit to either the numerous times I've talked to them at
their main office.

Do they have a unique prefix? Here the landline numbers are
02,03,04,06,08,09, cell phones 05 and the various secondary landline
(e.g. cable, DSL remarketers, etc are 07).

Cell phones cost a lot to call, landlines less and the secondary
provider landlines are very cheap.

Although you can port a number from one to others, no one seems to
notice.

Maybe they have a similar setup and call the cable phone numbers hoping
to get a hit without having a list.

BTW, one way you can get around this is if you live in the US is to use
Google voice. You can program in a list of numbers to forward, numbers
to reject, numbers to go to voice mail and numbers to screen (ask for
name).

Another is with a SKYPE incoming number. I cheat and have my incoming
voicemail message the old three tone pattern which tells an autodialer
its a dead number. Once you get a call from a number, you can select
block this number and they get a number not in service error if they
call you.

I wish there was a realtime black hole list for asterisk systems
(freeware PBX software) like there is for SPAM email addresses. I.E.
your asterisk system would check a database of SPAM callers and reject
the call, with someone maintining a global list.

Geoff.

Yeah, no prefixes here to distinguish between land, dsl, cable, or cell.
My mom has a decent caller blocking system, I just need to get over there
and program it for her.

You remember her address, right?

If not, it's in my .sig.

Yer welcome.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
...-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| { son Todd E. Werling } |
| { son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) } |
| { son Keith } |
| { son Easton } |
| { son Zakary } |
| { daughter Camella } |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera |
| { daughter Christina } |
| { daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) } |
| { daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) } |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------------'

Sister:
...----------------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| { son Richard } |
| { son Christopher (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Brandon († 30 May 1996) } |
| { daughter Erin } |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'----------------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| { son Matthew } |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
|-----------------------------------|
| Re/Max Edge Realty |
| North Canton / Massillon / Canton |
| Realtor Christine H. Vick |
| |
| 6929 Portage St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6535 |
| 330-236-5100 |
| 888-830-6509 (fax) |
| 330-904-0883 (cell) |
| www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com |
| MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com |
'-----------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz, OH EMT |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| { son Billy } |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

Niece:
...----------------------------.
| Rachel & Adam T. Livengood |
| { son Lukas } |
| { daughter Lauren } |
| |
| 6342 Palmer Dr. NW |
| Canton, OH 44718 |
| 330-497-7754 |
'----------------------------'

Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
...---------------------------------.
| William M. Griffith |
| |
| between 3rd and 4th St |
| between Monroe and Lincoln Ave. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2539 |
'---------------------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
...-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
...--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

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