Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite

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Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

Verizon told me they can't block calls that are not local. I have filed
a complaint with my state attorney, and will with the U.S. attorney.

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa & Mastercard) caller, calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.

A Google search, "425-336-8351" produced well over 500 hits. All the
"hits" I viewed has the exact same PROBLEM as I have. I read one
article where someone is offering a reward for the location of the person
or organization so he can "beat the sh.. out of this person".

Does anyone know of a Caller ID device with a special feature to "block",
disconnect, or automatically hang-up on a specified telephone number?

Thanks in advance, John
 
The Philips SJA9191 talking caller ID box has the option of setting an
specific outgoing messages for two different calling numbers.

You would hear the first (and possibly second) ring as the caller ID
is usually sent between the first and second rings.

However, the call would be answered immediately with no action from
you.

The Philips device is less than $20US here:
http://www.warepark.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=5600528

The only better solution would be to find an older Phone Genie
(something like that) that answered the phone, detected caller ID,
determined voice versus fax calls, etc. It probably could have
intercepted the call before your phone was allowed to ring. I think
the device was in the $100 - $150 range and may have interfaced with a
PC.

John

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:52:40 -0400, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:

Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

Verizon told me they can't block calls that are not local. I have filed
a complaint with my state attorney, and will with the U.S. attorney.

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa & Mastercard) caller, calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.

A Google search, "425-336-8351" produced well over 500 hits. All the
"hits" I viewed has the exact same PROBLEM as I have. I read one
article where someone is offering a reward for the location of the person
or organization so he can "beat the sh.. out of this person".

Does anyone know of a Caller ID device with a special feature to "block",
disconnect, or automatically hang-up on a specified telephone number?

Thanks in advance, John
 
Isn't there enough information on the display to help you decide whether or
not to answer? That doesn't eliminate the wasted time, of course.

One approach might be to accept the call, wait to be patched through to one
of the reps, and then say something extremely obscene to her. (Most are
women.) After a few times, they might "get the message".
 
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:46:21 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

Isn't there enough information on the display to help you decide whether or
not to answer? That doesn't eliminate the wasted time, of course.

One approach might be to accept the call, wait to be patched through to one
of the reps, and then say something extremely obscene to her. (Most are
women.) After a few times, they might "get the message".
Not very civil. The poor schmuck on the other end of the phone very
likely feels just the same way about getting such calls and they're
probably not in it for the fabulous salary or the great career path.
More likely because it was the only job they could find.

Also, not very wise. Those calls are routinely recorded and being the
callee and not the caller may not completely shield from the various
obscenity or assault statutes that might apply.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
 
On 6/17/2011 9:52 AM, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:
Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

Verizon told me they can't block calls that are not local. I have filed
a complaint with my state attorney, and will with the U.S. attorney.

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa& Mastercard) caller, calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.

A Google search, "425-336-8351" produced well over 500 hits. All the
"hits" I viewed has the exact same PROBLEM as I have. I read one
article where someone is offering a reward for the location of the person
or organization so he can "beat the sh.. out of this person".

Does anyone know of a Caller ID device with a special feature to "block",
disconnect, or automatically hang-up on a specified telephone number?

Thanks in advance, John

http://www.digitone.com/Digitone%20Call%20Blocker.htm
 
Ya know, there's also the clowns from Survey RC that call here
repeatedly, "This is Victoria, stand by for an important message."
And then I get the cruise ship horn "This is your Captain speaking."

I wish there was some way to hunt these ass holes down and remove
them from anything remotely connected to the phone system.

Jeff


--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"
 
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:52:40 -0400, jaugustine wrote:

Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

Verizon told me they can't block calls that are not local. I have
filed
a complaint with my state attorney, and will with the U.S. attorney.

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa & Mastercard) caller,
calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.

A Google search, "425-336-8351" produced well over 500 hits. All
the
"hits" I viewed has the exact same PROBLEM as I have. I read one
article where someone is offering a reward for the location of the
person or organization so he can "beat the sh.. out of this person".

Does anyone know of a Caller ID device with a special feature to
"block",
disconnect, or automatically hang-up on a specified telephone number?

Thanks in advance, John
When I had a land line I could block any number by putting them on a
preview call list where it would call and say so and so was calling.
Then I assigned the preview number to a 555-555-5555 number so it never
rang my phone. This was provided by AT&T.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
 
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:itg3u5$rf7$1@dont-email.me...
Isn't there enough information on the display to help you decide whether
or
not to answer? That doesn't eliminate the wasted time, of course.

One approach might be to accept the call, wait to be patched through to
one
of the reps, and then say something extremely obscene to her. (Most are
women.) After a few times, they might "get the message".


Whenever I get these calls in the UK - you can spot the 'class' of numbers
on the caller ID - I always pick up the phone to make sure that the company
gets billed a connection charge, and then just put the phone straight back
down. Doesn't stop the calls coming in, but makes me feel better that I've
cost them some money.

Another approach for a persistent number that you recognise, might be to
answer the phone something like "Drug enforcement agency covert team support
line ! Please state your badge number and code name !" If you then get a
person on the other end without them hanging up, read them the riot act
about it being an unlisted government number that they've called, and insist
that they inform their supervisor, and get it removed from the call list !
:)

Arfa
 
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<news:pan.2011.06.17.22.02.26@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>):

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:52:40 -0400, jaugustine wrote:

Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

Verizon told me they can't block calls that are not local. I have
filed
a complaint with my state attorney, and will with the U.S. attorney.

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa & Mastercard) caller,
calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.

A Google search, "425-336-8351" produced well over 500 hits. All
the
"hits" I viewed has the exact same PROBLEM as I have. I read one
article where someone is offering a reward for the location of the
person or organization so he can "beat the sh.. out of this person".

Does anyone know of a Caller ID device with a special feature to
"block",
disconnect, or automatically hang-up on a specified telephone number?

Thanks in advance, John

When I had a land line I could block any number by putting them on a
preview call list where it would call and say so and so was calling.
Then I assigned the preview number to a 555-555-5555 number so it never
rang my phone. This was provided by AT&T.
Wow, so broke you can't even afford a land line?

eMutt's got nothing on you, hey.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
...-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| { son Todd } |
| { son Chris (Atlanta, GA) } |
| { son Keith } |
| { son Easton } |
| { son Zakary } |
| { daughter Camella } |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera |
| { daughter Christina } |
| { daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) } |
| { daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) } |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------------'

Sister:
...----------------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| { son Richard } |
| { son Christopher (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Brandon († 30 May 1996) } |
| { daughter Erin } |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'----------------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| { son Matthew } |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
|-----------------------------------|
| Re/Max Edge Realty |
| North Canton / Massillon / Canton |
| Realtor Christine H. Vick |
| |
| 6929 Portage St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6535 |
| 330-236-5100 |
| 888-830-6509 (fax) |
| 330-904-0883 (cell) |
| www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com |
| MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com |
'-----------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz, OH EMT |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| { son Billy } |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

Niece:
...----------------------------.
| Rachel & Adam T. Livengood |
| { son Lukas } |
| { daughter Lauren } |
| |
| 6342 Palmer Dr. NW |
| Canton, OH 44718 |
| 330-497-7754 |
'----------------------------'

Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
...---------------------------------.
| William M. Griffith |
| |
| between 3rd and 4th St |
| between Monroe and Lincoln Ave. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2539 |
'---------------------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
...-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
...--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
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thataway
 
On 17/06/2011 17:52, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:
Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa& Mastercard) caller, calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.
Panasonic have a range of digital cordless phones that feature incoming
call barring for upto 30 numbers that can stored in a list. The phone
does not ring if the junk caller ID matches.

Either of these model numbers have it, and probably others.

KX-TG6511
KX-TG6512
KX-TG6513

KX-TG6521
KX-TG6512
KX-TG6513
KX-TG6514

They are sold worldwide. Quite impressed with the 4 station set we have.

--
Adrian C
 
Hi Adrian,

Thank you and everyone for your responses.

I will keep the information regarding the Panasonic cordless phones and
the other device from another reply.

On Friday, I received only one call from the "parasite". I'll wait and
see what happens first. Maybe it will stop?

John


On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:22:08 +0100, in sci.electronics.repair you wrote:

On 17/06/2011 17:52, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:
Hi,

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:

This "parasite" is a "robot" telemarket (Visa& Mastercard) caller, calls
four or more times a day, every day except weekends. It started June 6.
I tried everything to get the "parasite" to stop calling.

Panasonic have a range of digital cordless phones that feature incoming
call barring for upto 30 numbers that can stored in a list. The phone
does not ring if the junk caller ID matches.

Either of these model numbers have it, and probably others.

KX-TG6511
KX-TG6512
KX-TG6513

KX-TG6521
KX-TG6512
KX-TG6513
KX-TG6514

They are sold worldwide. Quite impressed with the 4 station set we have.
 
Per Adrian C:
Panasonic have a range of digital cordless phones that feature incoming
call barring for upto 30 numbers that can stored in a list. The phone
does not ring if the junk caller ID matches.
The growing problem that I see is telemarketers going offshore -
where they are immune to prosecution - and using VOIP services to
spoof caller ID.

In that context, the same telemarketer can call my cell phone
three times a day with the same message - but display a different
callerID each time.


Unencumbered by any real knowledge of telephony, I see the
eventual solution as a service offered by the land line or cell
phone provider:

- A caller rings my number

- My phone does *not* ring at that point.

- Caller gets a voice prompt "Dial 1 for Mary, dial 2 for Joe,
dial 3 for Sam...... dial 9 for Pete".

- "Pete" is the only one that exists. If somebody dials
anything else, something else happens but my phone does
not even ring.

- If they dial "9", my phone rings.

- If I do not choose to answer, the call goes to voicemail
just like it does now.

- Regular callers, once they know, can press "9" as soon as the
call completes - even before the voice prompt begins.


Seems to me like that would get rid of most junk calls without
unduly penalizing legitimate callers.

If that's true, and great minds with the same data reach similar
conclusions, I would hope to see such services offered within the
next few years.
--
PeteCresswell
 
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:40:44 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote:

- Caller gets a voice prompt "Dial 1 for Mary, dial 2 for Joe,
dial 3 for Sam...... dial 9 for Pete".
Such a device exists. However, it says something like "punch 1 for
voice, 2 for fax, 3 for modem, and 4 for answering machine". I have a
really ancient one from AES that does this, but it's pre-programmed,
and the messages cannot be modified.

Also, "Telebouncer".
<http://cgi.ebay.com/250702052073>
and others:
<http://www.jfteck.com>
<http://cgi.ebay.com/130533727162>

About 10 years ago, I threw together a home IVR system that almost
worked. It would grab and store the caller ID, but not ring the phone
no matter how many times the caller would ring. However, if the same
caller ID called back within about 3 minutes, the phone would ring
normally. I would tell my friends and accomplises to call twice. The
problem was that many callers didn't have caller ID active. I also
missed some important calls.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:52:40 -0400, jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:

Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite:
File a complaint with the FCC. You should see some results some time
before hell freezes over or when pigs learn to fly:
<https://esupport.fcc.gov/ccmsforms/form1088.action?form_type=1088E>

425-336-8351 is registered in Seattle, WA. However, some digging
found it to be somewhere in New Yuck and possibly used by Merchant Pro
Express, owned by Wells Fargo Bank:
<http://www.merchantproexpress.com>
I'm NOT sure about this info so treat it as guesswork.
<http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-425-336-8351>

This might also help, except that the caller can be almost anywhere.
<http://425_336_8351.phonepuppy.com>



--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On 6/18/2011 5:38 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
This bolsters my thinking
there was a breech in the cable company's security or maybe they just
flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they would never admit to
either the numerous times I've talked to them at their main office.

I'd be inclined to think they sold the list. Might as well make money
off of it since it's going to get stolen anyway. Or that's our excuse.

Jeff


--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"
 
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 02:11:46 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:itg3u5$rf7$1@dont-email.me...
Isn't there enough information on the display to help you decide
whether or
not to answer? That doesn't eliminate the wasted time, of course.

One approach might be to accept the call, wait to be patched through to
one
of the reps, and then say something extremely obscene to her. (Most are
women.) After a few times, they might "get the message".


Whenever I get these calls in the UK - you can spot the 'class' of
numbers on the caller ID - I always pick up the phone to make sure that
the company gets billed a connection charge, and then just put the phone
straight back down. Doesn't stop the calls coming in, but makes me feel
better that I've cost them some money.

Another approach for a persistent number that you recognise, might be to
answer the phone something like "Drug enforcement agency covert team
support line ! Please state your badge number and code name !" If you
then get a person on the other end without them hanging up, read them
the riot act about it being an unlisted government number that they've
called, and insist that they inform their supervisor, and get it removed
from the call list ! :)

Arfa
When I used to play with these guys, well when I had a land line with a
good assortment of tools, calls not on my allow list were forwarded to
the country sheriff's office :) They however after a few months got tired
of these calls and had the source traced back to my number. I got a
notice on official letterhead that I was to cease and desist this
practice immediately or possibly face disruption of public services
charges. Then I got wise to the caller verify function and blocking the
verify from calling me :) I never got a ring from a telemarketer after.

Now my mom has digital phone on cable and she gets several of these calls
every day. She ignores them if she doesn't recognize the caller ID.
Before she switched to digital phone she seldom got telemarketing calls.
I think the cable company got hacked into and phone numbers were stolen
and they never told anyone. My girlfriend also has digital phone from the
same cable provider and she gets telemarketing calls all day long. I
asked her if she was plagued with these calls with a traditional land
line with the same number and she said no. This bolsters my thinking
there was a breech in the cable company's security or maybe they just
flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they would never admit to
either the numerous times I've talked to them at their main office.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse
 
Meat Plow wrote:
Now my mom has digital phone on cable and she gets several of these calls
every day. She ignores them if she doesn't recognize the caller ID.
Before she switched to digital phone she seldom got telemarketing calls.
I think the cable company got hacked into and phone numbers were stolen
and they never told anyone. My girlfriend also has digital phone from the
same cable provider and she gets telemarketing calls all day long. I
asked her if she was plagued with these calls with a traditional land
line with the same number and she said no. This bolsters my thinking
there was a breech in the cable company's security or maybe they just
flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they would never admit to
either the numerous times I've talked to them at their main office.
Do they have a unique prefix? Here the landline numbers are 02,03,04,06,08,09,
cell phones 05 and the various secondary landline (e.g. cable, DSL remarketers,
etc are 07).

Cell phones cost a lot to call, landlines less and the secondary provider
landlines are very cheap.

Although you can port a number from one to others, no one seems to notice. :)

Maybe they have a similar setup and call the cable phone numbers hoping to get
a hit without having a list.

BTW, one way you can get around this is if you live in the US is to use
Google voice. You can program in a list of numbers to forward, numbers to
reject, numbers to go to voice mail and numbers to screen (ask for name).

Another is with a SKYPE incoming number. I cheat and have my incoming
voicemail message the old three tone pattern which tells an autodialer its
a dead number. :) Once you get a call from a number, you can select block
this number and they get a number not in service error if they call you.

I wish there was a realtime black hole list for asterisk systems (freeware
PBX software) like there is for SPAM email addresses. I.E. your asterisk
system would check a database of SPAM callers and reject the call, with
someone maintining a global list.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Making your enemy reliant on software you support is the best revenge.
 
Per (PeteCresswell):
If that's true, and great minds with the same data reach similar
conclusions, I would hope to see such services offered within the
next few years.
With, of course, the additional feature of a gold list: any
number on the gold list rings though immediately....
--
PeteCresswell
 
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:38:23 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<news:pan.2011.06.18.22.37.34@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>):

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 02:11:46 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:itg3u5$rf7$1@dont-email.me...
Isn't there enough information on the display to help you decide
whether or
not to answer? That doesn't eliminate the wasted time, of course.

One approach might be to accept the call, wait to be patched through to
one
of the reps, and then say something extremely obscene to her. (Most are
women.) After a few times, they might "get the message".


Whenever I get these calls in the UK - you can spot the 'class' of
numbers on the caller ID - I always pick up the phone to make sure that
the company gets billed a connection charge, and then just put the phone
straight back down. Doesn't stop the calls coming in, but makes me feel
better that I've cost them some money.

Another approach for a persistent number that you recognise, might be to
answer the phone something like "Drug enforcement agency covert team
support line ! Please state your badge number and code name !" If you
then get a person on the other end without them hanging up, read them
the riot act about it being an unlisted government number that they've
called, and insist that they inform their supervisor, and get it removed
from the call list ! :)

Arfa

When I used to play with these guys, well when I had a land line with a
good assortment of tools, calls not on my allow list were forwarded to
the country sheriff's office :) They however after a few months got tired
of these calls and had the source traced back to my number. I got a
notice on official letterhead that I was to cease and desist this
practice immediately or possibly face disruption of public services
charges. Then I got wise to the caller verify function and blocking the
verify from calling me :) I never got a ring from a telemarketer after.

Now my mom has digital phone on cable and she gets several of these calls
every day. She ignores them if she doesn't recognize the caller ID.
Before she switched to digital phone she seldom got telemarketing calls.
I think the cable company got hacked into and phone numbers were stolen
and they never told anyone. My girlfriend also has digital phone from the
same cable provider and she gets telemarketing calls all day long. I
asked her if she was plagued with these calls with a traditional land
line with the same number and she said no. This bolsters my thinking
there was a breech in the cable company's security or maybe they just
flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they would never admit to
either the numerous times I've talked to them at their main office.
Maybe they're not all telemarketers. Heh.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
...-----------------------------.
| Catherine & Angelo Griffith |
| |
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-494-5785 |
'-----------------------------'

Sister:
...------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| { son Todd E. Werling } |
| { son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) } |
| { son Keith } |
| { son Easton } |
| { son Zakary } |
| { daughter Camella } |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera |
| { daughter Christina } |
| { daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) } |
| { daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) } |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------------'

Sister:
...----------------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| { son Richard } |
| { son Christopher (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Brandon († 30 May 1996) } |
| { daughter Erin } |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'----------------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| { son Matthew } |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
|-----------------------------------|
| Re/Max Edge Realty |
| North Canton / Massillon / Canton |
| Realtor Christine H. Vick |
| |
| 6929 Portage St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6535 |
| 330-236-5100 |
| 888-830-6509 (fax) |
| 330-904-0883 (cell) |
| www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com |
| MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com |
'-----------------------------------'

Sister:
...-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Eddy Dailey |
| |
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz, OH EMT |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
...--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| { son Billy } |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

Niece:
...----------------------------.
| Rachel & Adam T. Livengood |
| { son Lukas } |
| { daughter Lauren } |
| |
| 6342 Palmer Dr. NW |
| Canton, OH 44718 |
| 330-497-7754 |
'----------------------------'

Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
...---------------------------------.
| William M. Griffith |
| |
| between 3rd and 4th St |
| between Monroe and Lincoln Ave. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2539 |
'---------------------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
...-----------------------------.
| David S. and Joan R. Shaner |
| |
| 2095 Waterbury Dr. |
| Uniontown OH 44312 |
| 330-699-4042 |
'-----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
...--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'


William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
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thataway
 
I was gonna mench, there was a device marketed in the 80s, I think, that
wouldn't even ring your phone until the caller entered a 3-digit number.. it
might'a been the AES company.

No outgoing message, that I recall, it required all callers to know the
owner, and call from a touchtone phone, IIRC.
Maybe it was before the 80s.. quite a while before caller ID was available.

--
Cheers,
WB
..............


"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:h40qv61un9p4749uso1q3rn89du4o3gil6@4ax.com...
Such a device exists. However, it says something like "punch 1 for
voice, 2 for fax, 3 for modem, and 4 for answering machine". I have a
really ancient one from AES that does this, but it's pre-programmed,
and the messages cannot be modified.

Also, "Telebouncer".
http://cgi.ebay.com/250702052073
and others:
http://www.jfteck.com
http://cgi.ebay.com/130533727162

About 10 years ago, I threw together a home IVR system that almost
worked. It would grab and store the caller ID, but not ring the phone
no matter how many times the caller would ring. However, if the same
caller ID called back within about 3 minutes, the phone would ring
normally. I would tell my friends and accomplises to call twice. The
problem was that many callers didn't have caller ID active. I also
missed some important calls.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 

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