Best "geek" show on TV

Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.

Lots of low tech, "see what it takes to makes it bust" stuff.

A really entertaining hoot.




................... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating
skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In
fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.

Lots of low tech, "see what it takes to makes it bust" stuff.

A really entertaining hoot.
Click to expand...
Bummer, forgot all about it :-(
Caught a few minutes of visual about the skeleton while at the gym.
Must have mumbled "damn it!" a bit too loud when I realised I missed
it, got a few strange looks :)
Ohms law calcs and an analog meter made an apperance, I swear it was
the same model Tandy unit I owned as a kid...
What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)
 
On 7 Feb 2005 02:20:44 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:
Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating
skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In
fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.

Lots of low tech, "see what it takes to makes it bust" stuff.

A really entertaining hoot.

Bummer, forgot all about it :-(
Caught a few minutes of visual about the skeleton while at the gym.
Must have mumbled "damn it!" a bit too loud when I realised I missed
it, got a few strange looks :)
Ohms law calcs and an analog meter made an apperance, I swear it was
the same model Tandy unit I owned as a kid...
What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)
Click to expand...
Legend about a man getting electrocuted by urinating on the third rail on
a US railway. The rail carries about 600V.
 
dmm wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 02:20:44 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com
wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:
Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating
skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In
fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.

Lots of low tech, "see what it takes to makes it bust" stuff.

A really entertaining hoot.

Bummer, forgot all about it :-(
Caught a few minutes of visual about the skeleton while at the gym.
Must have mumbled "damn it!" a bit too loud when I realised I missed
it, got a few strange looks :)
Ohms law calcs and an analog meter made an apperance, I swear it was
the same model Tandy unit I owned as a kid...
What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)

Legend about a man getting electrocuted by urinating on the third
rail on
a US railway. The rail carries about 600V.
Click to expand...
and what happened...?
Don't keep me in suspense!

Dave :)
 
"David L. Jones"
Phil Allison wrote:

Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.



Bummer, forgot all about it :-(
Caught a few minutes of visual about the skeleton while at the gym.
Must have mumbled "damn it!" a bit too loud when I realised I missed
it, got a few strange looks :)
Ohms law calcs and an analog meter made an apperance, I swear it was
the same model Tandy unit I owned as a kid...
What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?
Click to expand...


** The myth on trial was the one that says a US railway worker was
electrocuted while peeing on the third ( high voltage ) rail.

But you ***had*** to seeee it.




............. Phil
 
On 7 Feb 2005 02:47:26 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

dmm wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 02:20:44 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com

What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)

Legend about a man getting electrocuted by urinating on the third
rail on
a US railway. The rail carries about 600V.

and what happened...?
Don't keep me in suspense!

Dave :)
Click to expand...
heheh...

The skeleton was inside a vacuum formed "skin" with a gel in the legs
that simulated the electrical properties of flesh.

They found that the urine wasn't a continuous stream to the rail,
rather, it formed individual droplets as it got to the end of its travel, therefore
current couldn't travel up the urine to electocute the person. It should be
said that they approximated the diameter of the outlet to what looked like about 6mm.

They did find that when the urine flow was increased by increasing the diameter
of the flow, to that of a horse... current DID flow up the urine, because it
was a continuous stream and didn't form individual droplets.

All that being said, they reckon it could be possible IF the person was very
close to the rail in the first place. They had the dummy hanging onto the electified
rail and performed this test.
 
"dmm"
The skeleton was inside a vacuum formed "skin" with a gel in the legs
that simulated the electrical properties of flesh.

They found that the urine wasn't a continuous stream to the rail,
rather, it formed individual droplets as it got to the end of its travel,
therefore
current couldn't travel up the urine to electocute the person. It should
be
said that they approximated the diameter of the outlet to what looked like
about 6mm.

They did find that when the urine flow was increased by increasing the
diameter
of the flow, to that of a horse... current DID flow up the urine, because
it
was a continuous stream and didn't form individual droplets.

All that being said, they reckon it could be possible IF the person was
very
close to the rail in the first place. They had the dummy hanging onto the
electified
rail and performed this test.
Click to expand...


** All 100% correct - but a bit like describing Da Vinci's "Mona
Lisa" as a very old painting of a smiling wog lady.





............... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:

Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.

Lots of low tech, "see what it takes to makes it bust" stuff.

A really entertaining hoot.




.................. Phil



Very entertaining.
Click to expand...

However the credit card test failed to take into account that the card
institutions changed the magnetic stripe from Lo-coercivity to
High-coercivity about 15 years ago because of the problem of damage to
the card from relatively small magnetic fields. The problem did exist,
and a solution was implemented.
 
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:51:49 +1100, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:
"David L. Jones"
Phil Allison wrote:

Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In fact, the
show keeps getting better.

Where I live in Australia, we get two lots of Myhtbusters every Monday night:
Click to expand...
5:00 to 6:00 and 7:30 to 8:30. We are indeed fortunate. Please keep it up, SBS.
 
"Hercules Smackbottom" <wanker@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:1103_1107831468@Loud_Belch...
| On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:51:49 +1100, "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au>
wrote:
|
| Where I live in Australia, we get two lots of Myhtbusters every Monday
night:
| 5:00 to 6:00 and 7:30 to 8:30. We are indeed fortunate. Please keep it up,
SBS.
|

Same here - Im in NSW and they play the preceeding weeks "experiments" at
the 5pm timeslot, and the new ones that night at 7:30pm... ...and I have
to say it but - I want their job!

And I wont one of their t-shirts?

Do they even have a website?

Cheers, Richard


--------
Don't forget to check out the Website!
www.richardsmagic.com for updates...

P.O. Box 2212, Gosford N.S.W. 2250

"..truly unique, exciting entertainment"
 
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"Hercules Smackbottom" <wanker@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:1103_1107831468@Loud_Belch...
| On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:51:49 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au
wrote:
|
| Where I live in Australia, we get two lots of Myhtbusters every Monday
night:
| 5:00 to 6:00 and 7:30 to 8:30. We are indeed fortunate. Please keep it
up,
SBS.
|

Same here - Im in NSW and they play the preceeding weeks "experiments" at
the 5pm timeslot, and the new ones that night at 7:30pm... ...and I have
to say it but - I want their job!

And I wont one of their t-shirts?

Do they even have a website?

Cheers, Richard


--------
Don't forget to check out the Website!
www.richardsmagic.com for updates...

P.O. Box 2212, Gosford N.S.W. 2250

"..truly unique, exciting entertainment"
Click to expand...
**The word "truly" is not required, when using the term "unique". Something
is either unique, or it is not.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
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"Richard Waters" <legerdemain@SpAmSuCkSiprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:420864cd_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
"Hercules Smackbottom" <wanker@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:1103_1107831468@Loud_Belch...
| On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:51:49 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au
wrote:
|
| Where I live in Australia, we get two lots of Myhtbusters every Monday
night:
| 5:00 to 6:00 and 7:30 to 8:30. We are indeed fortunate. Please keep it
up,
SBS.
|

Same here - Im in NSW and they play the preceeding weeks "experiments"
at
the 5pm timeslot, and the new ones that night at 7:30pm... ...and I
have
to say it but - I want their job!

And I wont one of their t-shirts?

Do they even have a website?

Cheers, Richard


--------
Don't forget to check out the Website!
www.richardsmagic.com for updates...

P.O. Box 2212, Gosford N.S.W. 2250

"..truly unique, exciting entertainment"

**The word "truly" is not required, when using the term "unique".
Something
is either unique, or it is not.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Click to expand...
The despicable habit of qualifying "unique" is a neologism that makes me
froth at the mouth, but in this case I have to give them the benefit of the
doubt.
I think what they are trying to say is "This truly is a unique, exciting
entertainment." In that case the "truly" is qualifying not the "unique" but
the "is".
So much for the grammar. As to the show, it is a lot of fun, but not, in my
view, either unique or exciting.

 
On Stardate Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:52:13 +1100, dmm
<dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> applied digits to the keyboard and
routed the information from some kind of brain (presumably), thusly:

On 7 Feb 2005 02:47:26 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

dmm wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 02:20:44 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com

What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)

Legend about a man getting electrocuted by urinating on the third
rail on
a US railway. The rail carries about 600V.

and what happened...?
Don't keep me in suspense!

Dave :)

heheh...

The skeleton was inside a vacuum formed "skin" with a gel in the legs
that simulated the electrical properties of flesh.

They found that the urine wasn't a continuous stream to the rail,
Click to expand...
at least, that's the way it was with the dummy and one of the blokes
they filmed. however i believe that human male urine is supposed to
come out with a twist (i know mine does), which holds it together all
the way to the ground. anyway i was dissapointed that they did not
check the anatomy more precisely...

rather, it formed individual droplets as it got to the end of its travel, therefore
current couldn't travel up the urine to electocute the person. It should be
said that they approximated the diameter of the outlet to what looked like about 6mm.

They did find that when the urine flow was increased by increasing the diameter
of the flow, to that of a horse... current DID flow up the urine, because it
was a continuous stream and didn't form individual droplets.

All that being said, they reckon it could be possible IF the person was very
close to the rail in the first place. They had the dummy hanging onto the electified
rail and performed this test.
Click to expand...
rubber shoes and dry ground were other barriers to the success of the
myth. i think they decided it was possible but not very likely.

Foley U. Matthews. there | I believe in : Paying NO voluntary taxes, i.e.
are no e's in my true email | Lotteries, Gambling... The Executive Producer
Visit the Ellen Foley Info | is to blame!... and perhaps, Love (is/can be)
http://www.go.to/ellen-foley | "Fully expecting to be Hurt!"
 
On Stardate Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:25:27 GMT, swanny
<blahgswan3blah@blahbigpond.net.au> applied digits to the keyboard and
routed the information from some kind of brain (presumably), thusly:

Phil Allison wrote:

Hi again,

Tonight's episode featuring barrels of bricks falling, a urinating skeleton
and an electric ell attacking a credit card did not disappoint. In fact, the
show keeps getting better.

The two principal Yanks continue to impress.

Lots of low tech, "see what it takes to makes it bust" stuff.

A really entertaining hoot.




.................. Phil



Very entertaining.

However the credit card test failed to take into account that the card
institutions changed the magnetic stripe from Lo-coercivity to
High-coercivity about 15 years ago because of the problem of damage to
the card from relatively small magnetic fields. The problem did exist,
and a solution was implemented.
Click to expand...
ah, yes, and the little magnet clasp on the wallets was once a very
high gauss, rare earth magnet. this was shown on the Canadian "Acme
School of Stuff". Dave Stringer plays with floppy disks, instead of a
possibly illegal card writer...

Foley U. Matthews. there | I believe in : Paying NO voluntary taxes, i.e.
are no e's in my true email | Lotteries, Gambling... The Executive Producer
Visit the Ellen Foley Info | is to blame!... and perhaps, Love (is/can be)
http://www.go.to/ellen-foley | "Fully expecting to be Hurt!"
 
dmm wrote:
All that being said, they reckon it could be possible
Click to expand...
I have experience to prove it works with a small dog,
a neighbour's Jack Russell that used to pee on our
front screen door on a regular basis, rusting it badly.
A soda solution was used on the door-mat with a metal
pad underneath, and the 2nd wire connected to the door
itself. 12V was ineffective, it got ramped up to 35V
which produced a small yelp and a complete and permanent
absence of dog urine. The dog was completely unharmed of
course, and still seemed to like us - just not our door.

Did I say *who* did this darstardly deed? I did not :).
 
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On Stardate Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:52:13 +1100, dmm
dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> applied digits to the keyboard and
routed the information from some kind of brain (presumably), thusly:

On 7 Feb 2005 02:47:26 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

dmm wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 02:20:44 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com

What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)

Legend about a man getting electrocuted by urinating on the third
rail on
a US railway. The rail carries about 600V.

and what happened...?
Don't keep me in suspense!

Dave :)

heheh...

The skeleton was inside a vacuum formed "skin" with a gel in the legs
that simulated the electrical properties of flesh.

They found that the urine wasn't a continuous stream to the rail,

at least, that's the way it was with the dummy and one of the blokes
they filmed. however i believe that human male urine is supposed to
come out with a twist (i know mine does), which holds it together all
the way to the ground. anyway i was dissapointed that they did not
check the anatomy more precisely...
Click to expand...
**Agreed. It was poor science. The human urethra does apply a twist to
urine, thus forcing it into a more coherent stream.

rather, it formed individual droplets as it got to the end of its travel,
therefore
current couldn't travel up the urine to electocute the person. It should
be
said that they approximated the diameter of the outlet to what looked like
about 6mm.

They did find that when the urine flow was increased by increasing the
diameter
of the flow, to that of a horse... current DID flow up the urine, because
it
was a continuous stream and didn't form individual droplets.

All that being said, they reckon it could be possible IF the person was
very
close to the rail in the first place. They had the dummy hanging onto the
electified
rail and performed this test.

rubber shoes and dry ground were other barriers to the success of the
myth. i think they decided it was possible but not very likely.
Click to expand...
**The other was the fact that their threshold was set to 65mA. Far too high,
IMO.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
**Agreed. It was poor science. The human urethra does apply a twist to
urine, thus forcing it into a more coherent stream.
Click to expand...
We weren't talking about women here. I think you mean the ureter.

And I'll be blamed if I can see how centripetal force can keep
droplets together.

The forces that make the stream separate are two:
* Acceleration due to gravity thins the stream
* Aerodynamic forces induce thickness oscillations which escalate.
In neither case is the stream likely to hold together by rotating,
though there might be a minimal effect on the +ve feedback in the
thickness oscillations. Otherwise we'd design firehose nozzles to
do the same thing.

Try this sometime: Take a bucket of water and a drinking cup upstairs
to a window. Fill the cup, lean out the window, and rapidly invert
the cup, so the water falls out in a blob. You'll see the blob fall
about 1-2 metres then "burst" into portions. Another 1-2 metres, each
of the portions bursts again. After that there might be further
separations but it's too disorganised to see. The interesting thing
(though obvious when you think of it) is that the bursts occur at
pretty much the same heights for all the blobs, no matter what you
do.
 
Yow! 65mA up the old fella. That would cause the leakage valve to close real
quick....


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On Stardate Mon, 07 Feb 2005 22:52:13 +1100, dmm
dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> applied digits to the keyboard and
routed the information from some kind of brain (presumably), thusly:

On 7 Feb 2005 02:47:26 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

dmm wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 02:20:44 -0800, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com

What WAS the uninating skeleton all about anyway?

Dave :)

Legend about a man getting electrocuted by urinating on the third
rail on
a US railway. The rail carries about 600V.

and what happened...?
Don't keep me in suspense!

Dave :)

heheh...

The skeleton was inside a vacuum formed "skin" with a gel in the legs
that simulated the electrical properties of flesh.

They found that the urine wasn't a continuous stream to the rail,

at least, that's the way it was with the dummy and one of the blokes
they filmed. however i believe that human male urine is supposed to
come out with a twist (i know mine does), which holds it together all
the way to the ground. anyway i was dissapointed that they did not
check the anatomy more precisely...

**Agreed. It was poor science. The human urethra does apply a twist to
urine, thus forcing it into a more coherent stream.


rather, it formed individual droplets as it got to the end of its travel,
therefore
current couldn't travel up the urine to electocute the person. It should
be
said that they approximated the diameter of the outlet to what looked
like about 6mm.

They did find that when the urine flow was increased by increasing the
diameter
of the flow, to that of a horse... current DID flow up the urine, because
it
was a continuous stream and didn't form individual droplets.

All that being said, they reckon it could be possible IF the person was
very
close to the rail in the first place. They had the dummy hanging onto the
electified
rail and performed this test.

rubber shoes and dry ground were other barriers to the success of the
myth. i think they decided it was possible but not very likely.

**The other was the fact that their threshold was set to 65mA. Far too
high, IMO.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Click to expand...
 
"Richard Waters" <legerdemain@SpAmSuCkSiprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:420864cd_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
"Hercules Smackbottom" <wanker@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:1103_1107831468@Loud_Belch...
| On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 21:51:49 +1100, "Phil Allison"
philallison@tpg.com.au
wrote:
|
| Where I live in Australia, we get two lots of Myhtbusters every Monday
night:
| 5:00 to 6:00 and 7:30 to 8:30. We are indeed fortunate. Please keep it
up,
SBS.
|

Same here - Im in NSW and they play the preceeding weeks "experiments" at
the 5pm timeslot, and the new ones that night at 7:30pm... ...and I have
to say it but - I want their job!

And I wont one of their t-shirts?

Do they even have a website?
Click to expand...
I believe this is the Producer/production companies website :
http://www.wolfmanproductions.com/myth.htm

Then their is a Fan club site :
http://www.mythbustersfanclub.com/
 
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