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I've even seen 1.5V button cells leak and bugger up a perfectly goodIs there any such thing as an alkaline battery that does not leak
with age?
I just had my second episode of Mallory Duracells gooping up a
flashlight.
If the answer is "no", can anybody venture a proactive
replacement interval for size "C" cells?
Still down tonight. All I get is <null>--a completely blank page, noOn Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:24:28 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
On 11/28/2010 10:26 AM (PeteCresswell) spake thus:
Per Jeff Liebermann:
When the site comes back up, you might want to dig through:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com> Most of the users in that
forum make their own flashlights (and bicycle lights) because
the commercial stuff is either overpriced or not very reliable.
It's back up and looks promising except that somebody's gone
overboard with image verification. It's required for every post,
every search, and every preview - even when the user is logged
in.
Sounds like that sucks. Maybe you ought to notify them? I just get
a totally blank page when I try to go there.
I got a page or two before it crawled to a stop. The site is VERY
slow. However, new posts seem to be appearing on the pages I was able
to view. If it ever comes back, it's the main site for experimenting
with flashlights and illumination devices.
Oops... Looks like they're down again:
CPF is closed at this time in order to fix a
few things from the upgrade.
It make take some time. I don't know.
The grammar error makes me suspect that someone has been up all night.
Maxells used to be available at the local Fleet Farm. They lasted,On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:01:43 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid
wrote:
Is there any such thing as an alkaline battery that does not leak
with age?
Yes.
http://gadgets.softpedia.com/news/New-Hitachi-Maxell-Alkaline-Batteri...
However, I have no experience with these. I've been wrapping my
flashlight batteries in cellophane wrap for years. I have had leaks,
but little damage.
I just had my second episode of Mallory Duracells gooping up a
flashlight.
How old were the batteries?
If the answer is "no", can anybody venture a proactive
replacement interval for size "C" cells?
5 years would be my guess. The ideal self discharge rate of about 2%
for alkalines should leave you with a 90% charge after 5 years.
However, getting the battery hot, as in your vehicle (or bicycle),
will rapidly decrease the self discharge rate. When the battery gets
nearly dead (at about 25% capacity), it starts to belch hydrogen,
which is the major cause of leakage.
--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
I don't know, but I do have a marginal guess at what really happened.On 11/28/2010 8:51 PM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:24:28 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
On 11/28/2010 10:26 AM (PeteCresswell) spake thus:
Per Jeff Liebermann:
When the site comes back up, you might want to dig through:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com> Most of the users in that
forum make their own flashlights (and bicycle lights) because
the commercial stuff is either overpriced or not very reliable.
It's back up and looks promising except that somebody's gone
overboard with image verification. It's required for every post,
every search, and every preview - even when the user is logged
in.
Sounds like that sucks. Maybe you ought to notify them? I just get
a totally blank page when I try to go there.
I got a page or two before it crawled to a stop. The site is VERY
slow. However, new posts seem to be appearing on the pages I was able
to view. If it ever comes back, it's the main site for experimenting
with flashlights and illumination devices.
Oops... Looks like they're down again:
CPF is closed at this time in order to fix a
few things from the upgrade.
It make take some time. I don't know.
The grammar error makes me suspect that someone has been up all night.
Still down tonight. All I get is <null>--a completely blank page, no
source code, no nothing. Are they ever going to get that sucker up again?
So why do you get *something* while I get *nothing*? Null. Nada. Zip.On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:54:54 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
On 11/28/2010 8:51 PM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
Oops... Looks like they're down again:
CPF is closed at this time in order to fix a
few things from the upgrade.
It make take some time. I don't know.
The grammar error makes me suspect that someone has been up all
night.
Still down tonight. All I get is <null>--a completely blank page,
no source code, no nothing. Are they ever going to get that sucker
up again?
I don't know, but I do have a marginal guess at what really happened.
Yet another failed server upgrade.
The splash screen is back now, but with a slightly different message.
CPF is closed at this time in order to update the keywords
and hopefully improve the search function.
It make take some time. I don't know.
On 12/1/2010 10:24 AM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:54:54 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
On 11/28/2010 8:51 PM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
Oops... Looks like they're down again:
CPF is closed at this time in order to fix a
few things from the upgrade.
It make take some time. I don't know.
The grammar error makes me suspect that someone has been up all
night.
Still down tonight. All I get is <null>--a completely blank page,
no source code, no nothing. Are they ever going to get that sucker
up again?
I don't know, but I do have a marginal guess at what really happened.
Yet another failed server upgrade.
The splash screen is back now, but with a slightly different message.
CPF is closed at this time in order to update the keywords
and hopefully improve the search function.
It make take some time. I don't know.
So why do you get *something* while I get *nothing*? Null. Nada. Zip.
You might want to double check the version again. Although Firefox isSo why do you get *something* while I get *nothing*? Null. Nada. Zip.
(Using an otherwise apparently well-working copy of Firefox (3.6.8).)
Address: 192.168.1.1set type=ANY
www.candlepowerforums.com
Server: DD-WRT
Address: 206.188.198.34server ns68.worldnic.com
Default Server: ns68.worldnic.com
Address: 206.188.198.34www.candlepowerforums.com
Server: ns68.worldnic.com
In Firefox, you can force reloading the page from scratch with:So why do you get *something* while I get *nothing*? Null. Nada. Zip.
Have you cleared your catche?
Yes. Did nothing. (I did use ipconfig, which did flush the cache, but itOn Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:55:39 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
So why do you get *something* while I get *nothing*? Null. Nada. Zip.
Have you cleared your catche?
I have to say--and this is a little off-topic, I realize--that with allOn Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:37:38 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
So why do you get *something* while I get *nothing*? Null. Nada.
Zip. (Using an otherwise apparently well-working copy of Firefox
(3.6.8).)
You might want to double check the version again. Although Firefox is
almost up to date (3.6.12 is current), your Thunderbird, that you're
using to post messages, is far out of date:
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604)
Current is 3.1.6. You'll need to download a fresh copy as update
doesn't alway work between major version changes.
Try again. It seems to be back up this morning.So bottom line is that with the software I have, including a pretty
up-to-date version of FF, I cannot view this page.
Judging from the number of error messages that IE (5) reports whenOn Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:56:32 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
So bottom line is that with the software I have, including a pretty
up-to-date version of FF, I cannot view this page.
Try again. It seems to be back up this morning.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com
Hmmm... still has problems. It wants me to register/login before I
can use the search box. I don't think it did that before the upgrade.
You can , without login read all of it.On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:56:32 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
So bottom line is that with the software I have, including a pretty
up-to-date version of FF, I cannot view this page.
Try again. It seems to be back up this morning.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com
Hmmm... still has problems. It wants me to register/login before I
can use the search box. I don't think it did that before the upgrade.
Oh no, only if you want to post there.
I have to say--and this is a little off-topic, I realize--that with all
due respect to your astute observations of my software revision levels, I
have no intention of upgrading my copy of Thunderbird. And this is
deliberate on my part.
Why? Because upgrading Firefox, my web browser, is one thing. If it fucks
up, all I lose is, basically, nothing (I keep my bookmarks backed up well
enough). But if the Tbird install goes haywire, I stand to lose a lot: my
previous email messages, address book, not to mention newsgroup stuff. Oh,
I wouldn't actually *lose* it: I know where the inboxes and such reside,
and can save and restore them, but it's a PAIN IN THE ASS that I wish to
avoid.
I've had enough bad luck with this geek-produced software that I'm quite
gun shy about upgrading. And while there are plenty of annoying things
about Thunderbird (like why, on my machine with not a lot of RAM, it
exhibits the most piss-poor memory management I've seen of ANY application
EVER, resulting in occasional "naps" of up to a minute while it scrambles
to purge and reallocate memory), it's a case of better the devil you know;
I'm not interested in discovering all those NEW bugs they've introduced
after fixing the old ones.
So thanks, but no thanks.
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.
--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.
- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
Thanks for that.I'm another user that knows he can easily live without all of the latest
crap that's pumped out every day.
"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4cf7fd79$0$2411$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
I have to say--and this is a little off-topic, I realize--that with
all due respect to your astute observations of my software
revision levels, I have no intention of upgrading my copy of
Thunderbird. And this is deliberate on my part.
Why? Because upgrading Firefox, my web browser, is one thing. If it
fucks up, all I lose is, basically, nothing (I keep my bookmarks
backed up well enough). But if the Tbird install goes haywire, I
stand to lose a lot: my previous email messages, address book, not
to mention newsgroup stuff. Oh, I wouldn't actually *lose* it: I
know where the inboxes and such reside, and can save and restore
them, but it's a PAIN IN THE ASS that I wish to avoid.
I've had enough bad luck with this geek-produced software that I'm
quite gun shy about upgrading. And while there are plenty of
annoying things about Thunderbird (like why, on my machine with not
a lot of RAM, it exhibits the most piss-poor memory management
I've seen of ANY application EVER, resulting in occasional "naps"
of up to a minute while it scrambles to purge and reallocate
memory), it's a case of better the devil you know; I'm not
interested in discovering all those NEW bugs they've introduced
after fixing the old ones.
So thanks, but no thanks.
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.
Permit me to offer a dissenting opinion on the matter.I have no intention of upgrading my copy of Thunderbird. And this is
deliberate on my part.
How to backup Thunderbird email and settings:Why? Because upgrading Firefox, my web browser, is one thing. If it
fucks up, all I lose is, basically, nothing (I keep my bookmarks backed
up well enough). But if the Tbird install goes haywire, I stand to lose
a lot: my previous email messages, address book, not to mention
newsgroup stuff. Oh, I wouldn't actually *lose* it: I know where the
inboxes and such reside, and can save and restore them, but it's a PAIN
IN THE ASS that I wish to avoid.
Same here, but with one difference. I do computer support as aI've had enough bad luck with this geek-produced software that I'm quite
gun shy about upgrading.
My customers sometimes ask me "is it time to upgrade"? It's a sillyAnd while there are plenty of annoying things
about Thunderbird (like why, on my machine with not a lot of RAM, it
exhibits the most piss-poor memory management I've seen of ANY
application EVER, resulting in occasional "naps" of up to a minute while
it scrambles to purge and reallocate memory), it's a case of better the
devil you know; I'm not interested in discovering all those NEW bugs
they've introduced after fixing the old ones.
You're welcome anyway.So thanks, but no thanks.
--We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.
I'll call your 5 and raise you to 11 errors. Go thee unto:On 12/2/2010 12:13 PM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:56:32 -0800, David Nebenzahl
nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
So bottom line is that with the software I have, including a pretty
up-to-date version of FF, I cannot view this page.
Try again. It seems to be back up this morning.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com
Hmmm... still has problems. It wants me to register/login before I
can use the search box. I don't think it did that before the upgrade.
Judging from the number of error messages that IE (5) reports when
loading that page, there are some serious problems on the sending side
of that site. I don't think it's our software.
Form follows function. I know you'll enjoy the content. If you doToo bad; the content over there is intriguing.
Yes. That's the start page. Seems to be slowing down as the day(By the way, the URL that eventually loads is
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/portal/index.php. Is that correct?)
On 12/2/2010 1:53 PM Wild_Bill spake thus:
I'm another user that knows he can easily live without all of the latest
crap that's pumped out every day.
Thanks for that.
Now that I've got you on the line, can I make a request of you? Could you
please not top-post? If you look, you'll see that, like, 99.9% of posters
here bottom post.
Now, I know you're a wild guy and all and don't want to be tied down by
boring convention, but this is one that actually makes sense.
Anyhow, just a request.
No, it's because there's this advanced technique called "trimming",If you look at a typical thread that's been receiving replies for a couple
of days, there is a lot of previously read junk to scroll down thru to get
to a reply that may be a couple of words. It simply amounts to a lot of
wasted time.
So your position is that everyone should waste that time, because of some
outdated method based on the early BBS networks, correct?