Automobile starter lockout

John Fields · Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.
---

Also, many cars don't engage the steering lock until you pull the key
completely out of the lock.

Most do.

---
Really?

Post a list.
---

Another interesting feature is that the steering lock does not engage
until the steering wheel has been turned a considerable amount off
center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ

So you'd better be on a straight road? BTW, that's a dumb idea, too.
The wheels should be straight when parked (it's hard on the power
steering pump to leave them at an angle).

---
Wow!

Save the power steering pump but let the humans die?

Even more wisdom from the sage who doesn't seem to know that if you're
parallel parked downhill you should steer into the curb and if you're
parallel parked uphill you should steer away from the curb.

--
JF

John Fields · Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:12:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

Also, many cars don't engage the steering lock until you pull the key
completely out of the lock.

Most do.

Another interesting feature is that the steering lock does not engage
until the steering wheel has been turned a considerable amount off
center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ

So you'd better be on a straight road? BTW, that's a dumb idea, too.
The wheels should be straight when parked (it's hard on the power
steering pump to leave them at an angle).

Huh? Power steering is a hydraulic servo, at _any_ non-movement
position the piston is bypassed.

Ever rebuilt one? I have ;-)

---
Very nice, you nailed the KRWPOS.

--
JF

Mark Storkamp · Mar 18, 2013

In article <djhek8tqu1glr56te5r1o0srmvh40c2ler@4ax.com>, krw@attt.bizz
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

Also, many cars don't engage the steering lock until you pull the key
completely out of the lock.

Most do.

Another interesting feature is that the steering lock does not engage
until the steering wheel has been turned a considerable amount off
center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ

So you'd better be on a straight road? BTW, that's a dumb idea, too.
The wheels should be straight when parked (it's hard on the power
steering pump to leave them at an angle).

Maybe they do exist, but I've never seen a car where turning the key to
'off' also locked the wheel. I've always had to turn 1 click farther
than 'off' before the wheel locks. I had a Pontiac that was prone to
stalling, and I never needed to even turn it as far as 'off'. Just shift
into neutral and crank the engine until it starts.

BTW, it's *DUMB* (and possibly illegal) to park with your wheels
straight if you are parked on a hill.

Jim Thompson · Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:52:13 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.
---

Also, many cars don't engage the steering lock until you pull the key
completely out of the lock.

Most do.

---
Really?

Post a list.
---

Another interesting feature is that the steering lock does not engage
until the steering wheel has been turned a considerable amount off
center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ

So you'd better be on a straight road? BTW, that's a dumb idea, too.
The wheels should be straight when parked (it's hard on the power
steering pump to leave them at an angle).

---
Wow!

Save the power steering pump but let the humans die?

Even more wisdom from the sage who doesn't seem to know that if you're
parallel parked downhill you should steer into the curb and if you're
parallel parked uphill you should steer away from the curb.

In the WV driver's manual that's emphasized... for good reason >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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| Voice

Ian Field · Mar 18, 2013

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

John Fields · Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

---
It's "allegiances" and, since you have none, you have to defend
yourself, all alone, against all of us.

Larkin may pretend to be your buddy and offer you succor but, in the
end, he's only interested in his own aggrandisement and will leave you
crying in the dust when push comes to shove.

--
JF

Ian Field · Mar 18, 2013

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:6oqek85ucl5uk2gbo6rotj4lavjhj5mk85@4ax.com...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

---
It's "allegiances" and, since you have none, you have to defend
yourself, all alone, against all of us.

Hardly all - just a minority of weak minded individuals happy to tag along
behind the schoolyard bully.

Or maybe they're hanging around the druggie for their next fix.

Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:52:13 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

I was right about you, Fields, you're illiterate.

---

Also, many cars don't engage the steering lock until you pull the key
completely out of the lock.

Most do.

---
Really?

Post a list.

What an asshole.

---

Another interesting feature is that the steering lock does not engage
until the steering wheel has been turned a considerable amount off
center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ

So you'd better be on a straight road? BTW, that's a dumb idea, too.
The wheels should be straight when parked (it's hard on the power
steering pump to leave them at an angle).

---
Wow!

Save the power steering pump but let the humans die?

Illiterate idiot.

Even more wisdom from the sage who doesn't seem to know that if you're
parallel parked downhill you should steer into the curb and if you're
parallel parked uphill you should steer away from the curb.

You really are an asshole. ...everyone knows that, even your butt
buddy Slowman.

Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Jim Thompson · Mar 18, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Ian Field · Mar 18, 2013

<krw@attt.bizz> wrote in message
news:i23fk8pgqrh8r4qrrkv2ga88i0o4fjbo98@4ax.com...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:52:13 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

I was right about you, Fields, you're illiterate.

---

Also, many cars don't engage the steering lock until you pull the key
completely out of the lock.

Most do.

---
Really?

Post a list.

What an asshole.
---

Another interesting feature is that the steering lock does not engage
until the steering wheel has been turned a considerable amount off
center: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEA8cR32knQ

So you'd better be on a straight road? BTW, that's a dumb idea, too.
The wheels should be straight when parked (it's hard on the power
steering pump to leave them at an angle).

---
Wow!

Save the power steering pump but let the humans die?

Illiterate idiot.

Even more wisdom from the sage who doesn't seem to know that if you're
parallel parked downhill you should steer into the curb and if you're
parallel parked uphill you should steer away from the curb.

You really are an asshole. ...everyone knows that, even your butt
buddy Slowman.

I thought JT was his favourite butt pirate!

Mar 19, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

John Fields · Mar 19, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:14:24 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

---
"Intemately"???

--
JF

Jim Thompson · Mar 19, 2013

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:14:24 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

krw is so-o-o-o-o stupid, he can't even spell >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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| Voice

Mar 19, 2013

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:29:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:14:24 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

krw is so-o-o-o-o stupid, he can't even spell >:-}

Yep, butt buddies. The last two posts are Proof positive.

Jim Thompson · Mar 19, 2013

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:08:41 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:29:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:14:24 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

krw is so-o-o-o-o stupid, he can't even spell >:-}

Yep, butt buddies. The last two posts are Proof positive.

Ian Field · Mar 19, 2013

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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:08:41 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:29:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:14:24 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally,
just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor).
To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks
the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not
turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which
hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb
manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

krw is so-o-o-o-o stupid, he can't even spell >:-}

Yep, butt buddies. The last two posts are Proof positive.

You and Ian are certainly sick-sick-sick puppies.

Of course you're both off-the-wall incompetent, so I guess your
behavior is what we have all come to expect.

I've never claimed to be a pillar of the industry - unlike some with
delusions of grandeur.

Mar 19, 2013

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:23:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:08:41 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:29:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:14:24 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:58:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:54:30 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:16:52 -0000, "Ian Field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:bomek8lc41vnv8rlveid8q8b2ia4e5jhve@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:54:47 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:58:18 +0100, Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:48:27 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

It's dangerous as hell, too. Once my engine would, occasionally, just
shut off (took months to find the intermittent flywheel sensor). To
restart one had to turn it to the OFF position, which also locks the
steering. Together they are a *BAD* idea.

The operator's manual very explicitly states that you must not turn
the key off while the car is moving.

I really don't give a crap what the manual states. It's *DUMB*.

---
So, you're part of the cadre that refuses to RTFM because you're so
smart you don't need to read about the details, and then, when
something goes awry and you get yourself into an accident which hurts
someone else, it's not your fault, of course, it's the dumb manual's?

Sloman was right about you, you're despicable.

When allegiences shift like the desert sands...................

Allegiance? Fields has *always* been an asshole.

Crikey! krw, You're more ignorant than Ian Field!

krw meets the Ron White criteria of ignorance... "You can't cure
stupid. Stupid is forever!"

You sure know all about that one, intemately, Mr. Alzheimer.

krw is so-o-o-o-o stupid, he can't even spell >:-}

Yep, butt buddies. The last two posts are Proof positive.

You and Ian are certainly sick-sick-sick puppies.

Says the escapee from the Alzheimer's ward.

Of course you're both off-the-wall incompetent, so I guess your
behavior is what we have all come to expect.

Speak for yourself, you old senile has-been.

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