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Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
B
bitrex
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On 4/17/2020 12:38 PM, bitrex wrote:
"Having trouble", rather
On 4/17/2020 11:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle
cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
A human test subject would probably feel worse after you fed them every
known-or-suspected anti-viral.
In seriousness though there are thousands of known-or-suspected
anti-virals they seem to be having organizing coherent trials of a
couple of them.
"Having trouble", rather
Guest
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
They're not going to get research funding for observations they can't explain. The Australians couldn't explain it. The Chinese, who are also looking at this drug, were able to explain the molecular basis for it. They might be moving into animal studies, dunno. It's serious enough the FDA is warning people off it until we know more. People will be drinking hair tonic next.
There're are plenty of antivirals out there. Unfortunately many of them are antihuman too.
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure....
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
They're not going to get research funding for observations they can't explain. The Australians couldn't explain it. The Chinese, who are also looking at this drug, were able to explain the molecular basis for it. They might be moving into animal studies, dunno. It's serious enough the FDA is warning people off it until we know more. People will be drinking hair tonic next.
There're are plenty of antivirals out there. Unfortunately many of them are antihuman too.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
B
bitrex
Guest
On 4/17/2020 11:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
A human test subject would probably feel worse after you fed them every
known-or-suspected anti-viral.
In seriousness though there are thousands of known-or-suspected
anti-virals they seem to be having organizing coherent trials of a
couple of them.
They use computers to help this one identified several compounds
including the main chemical in yerba santa, a Native American medicinal
plant:
<https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/supercomputer-finds-77-drugs-that-could-halt-coronavirus-spread/>
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
A human test subject would probably feel worse after you fed them every
known-or-suspected anti-viral.
In seriousness though there are thousands of known-or-suspected
anti-virals they seem to be having organizing coherent trials of a
couple of them.
They use computers to help this one identified several compounds
including the main chemical in yerba santa, a Native American medicinal
plant:
<https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/supercomputer-finds-77-drugs-that-could-halt-coronavirus-spread/>
P
Pimpom
Guest
On 4/17/2020 9:21 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
internal and external parasites in both humans and animals is
well established. It's cheap and about as safe as any common drug
could be.
If those scientists had been testing it in vitro against COVID-19
ever since the pandemic started, I wonder why it has taken them
this long to publish the results.
Ivermectin has been around for decades and its efficacy againstIvermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
internal and external parasites in both humans and animals is
well established. It's cheap and about as safe as any common drug
could be.
If those scientists had been testing it in vitro against COVID-19
ever since the pandemic started, I wonder why it has taken them
this long to publish the results.
Guest
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 12:38:09 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
Don't hold your breath. The traditional medicine stuff rarely to never pans out. Yerba Santa is a weak expectorant.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-393/yerba-santa
On 4/17/2020 11:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
A human test subject would probably feel worse after you fed them every
known-or-suspected anti-viral.
In seriousness though there are thousands of known-or-suspected
anti-virals they seem to be having organizing coherent trials of a
couple of them.
They use computers to help this one identified several compounds
including the main chemical in yerba santa, a Native American medicinal
plant:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/supercomputer-finds-77-drugs-that-could-halt-coronavirus-spread/
Don't hold your breath. The traditional medicine stuff rarely to never pans out. Yerba Santa is a weak expectorant.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-393/yerba-santa
Guest
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
What's the point of exploring anything that is already explained?
Do we already know everything that can be known, like we did in 1900?
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
They're not going to get research funding for observations they can't explain.
What's the point of exploring anything that is already explained?
Do we already know everything that can be known, like we did in 1900?
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
R
Ricky C
Guest
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 11:51:29 AM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
"in cell culture"
Bleach will do that. Wait until it is shown to work in humans, then let us know.
--
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Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
"in cell culture"
Bleach will do that. Wait until it is shown to work in humans, then let us know.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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whit3rd
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On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 8:58:46 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Ethics is one reason. The other is economics; that would be a panic response, and
a flurry of unusable data does no one any good. Test this, if you will, by
taking regular doses of California raisins, and report your results. Maybe you
can even get 'big ag' to sponsor the effort!
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
Ethics is one reason. The other is economics; that would be a panic response, and
a flurry of unusable data does no one any good. Test this, if you will, by
taking regular doses of California raisins, and report your results. Maybe you
can even get 'big ag' to sponsor the effort!
G
George Herold
Guest
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:24:09 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:
Oh and it's got a metallic taste in the back of your mouth
so even if it doesn't work, the placebo effect may be enough.
GH
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
Several months ago.. (my early prepper period.)
I bought some Zinc tablets.. not to take every day,
but if you feel the 'scratchy throat' coming on.
(no idea if that is a sign of current virus...)
I have no idea if zinc works or not... but no drug
company is going to pay for trails.
George H.
Oh and it's got a metallic taste in the back of your mouth
so even if it doesn't work, the placebo effect may be enough.
GH
G
George Herold
Guest
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Several months ago.. (my early prepper period.)
I bought some Zinc tablets.. not to take every day,
but if you feel the 'scratchy throat' coming on.
(no idea if that is a sign of current virus...)
I have no idea if zinc works or not... but no drug
company is going to pay for trails.
George H.
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
Several months ago.. (my early prepper period.)
I bought some Zinc tablets.. not to take every day,
but if you feel the 'scratchy throat' coming on.
(no idea if that is a sign of current virus...)
I have no idea if zinc works or not... but no drug
company is going to pay for trails.
George H.
S
speff
Guest
On Friday, 17 April 2020 11:58:46 UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I think they've tried about everything they've got, and
discovered some interesting new interactions that tend to kill patients along the way.
eg. ritonavir/lopinavir:
Combined use with amiodarone (fatal arrhythmia), quetiapine(severe coma), simvastati (rhabdomyolysis) is prohibited
-- Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
I think they've tried about everything they've got, and
discovered some interesting new interactions that tend to kill patients along the way.
eg. ritonavir/lopinavir:
Combined use with amiodarone (fatal arrhythmia), quetiapine(severe coma), simvastati (rhabdomyolysis) is prohibited
-- Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Guest
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote in
news:c8f1ab8a-789a-4fc9-a14b-694ee5c7ec46@googlegroups.com:
anti-microbial handsoap does it in seconds.
news:c8f1ab8a-789a-4fc9-a14b-694ee5c7ec46@googlegroups.com:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible
miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
anti-microbial handsoap does it in seconds.
P
Phil Hobbs
Guest
On 2020-04-17 11:51, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
In vitro, anyway.
100% of cancers in mice can be cured.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
In vitro, anyway.
100% of cancers in mice can be cured.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
J
Jasen Betts
Guest
On 2020-04-17, Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
I mentioned that it seemed promising.
Message-ID: <r6f3n4$d5$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org>
They can't publish results they don't have.
12 days later they have results.
--
Jasen.
On 4/17/2020 9:21 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Ivermectin has been around for decades and its efficacy against
internal and external parasites in both humans and animals is
well established. It's cheap and about as safe as any common drug
could be.
If those scientists had been testing it in vitro against COVID-19
ever since the pandemic started, I wonder why it has taken them
this long to publish the results.
I mentioned that it seemed promising.
Message-ID: <r6f3n4$d5$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org>
They can't publish results they don't have.
12 days later they have results.
--
Jasen.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:30:16 -0700 (PDT), speff <spehro@gmail.com>
wrote:
Certainly they could start with drugs at doses that are in use for
other things and known to be reasonably safe and possibly anti-viral.
Carefully risking a few lives might save many.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Friday, 17 April 2020 11:58:46 UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Ivermectin kills virus in its tracks within hours, possible miracle cure...
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/mu-pcd040320.php
Given the panic level and possibility of a 1918-level pandemic,
I wonder why human trials were not begun early on every known or
suspected anti-viral.
I think they've tried about everything they've got, and
discovered some interesting new interactions that tend to kill patients along the way.
eg. ritonavir/lopinavir:
Combined use with amiodarone (fatal arrhythmia), quetiapine(severe coma), simvastati (rhabdomyolysis) is prohibited
-- Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Certainly they could start with drugs at doses that are in use for
other things and known to be reasonably safe and possibly anti-viral.
Carefully risking a few lives might save many.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
L
Lasse Langwadt Christense
Guest
lørdag den 18. april 2020 kl. 00.10.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
you are not allowed to do that, that's why so many Nobel laureates in medicine
did experiments on themselves
Certainly they could start with drugs at doses that are in use for
other things and known to be reasonably safe and possibly anti-viral.
Carefully risking a few lives might save many.
you are not allowed to do that, that's why so many Nobel laureates in medicine
did experiments on themselves
R
Ricky C
Guest
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 6:23:32 PM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
You mean like Linus Pauling? What are you talking about???
Besides, what Larkin is talking about is exactly what they do. But "carefully" means something different to Larkin than the scientific community. To Larkin it means, why wasn't it done yesterday?
Why is Larkin always in such agitation over every issue in the world? He seems to think everyone else is an idiot and he alone knows the one true faith.
--
Rick C.
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lørdag den 18. april 2020 kl. 00.10.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
Certainly they could start with drugs at doses that are in use for
other things and known to be reasonably safe and possibly anti-viral.
Carefully risking a few lives might save many.
you are not allowed to do that, that's why so many Nobel laureates in medicine
did experiments on themselves
You mean like Linus Pauling? What are you talking about???
Besides, what Larkin is talking about is exactly what they do. But "carefully" means something different to Larkin than the scientific community. To Larkin it means, why wasn't it done yesterday?
Why is Larkin always in such agitation over every issue in the world? He seems to think everyone else is an idiot and he alone knows the one true faith.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:23:26 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
Yes. People used to do the math differently, based on the moral
concept that we should do what probabilistically saves the most lives.
We also felt that some people should be allowed to volunteer for the
benefit of all. Spock said something like that.
I have volunteered for an inconvenient but not very dangerous
long-term medical study. I did get cool pictures of my brain.
There are easy ways to spend a little money and save millions of lives
every year.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
lřrdag den 18. april 2020 kl. 00.10.11 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
Certainly they could start with drugs at doses that are in use for
other things and known to be reasonably safe and possibly anti-viral.
Carefully risking a few lives might save many.
you are not allowed to do that, that's why so many Nobel laureates in medicine
did experiments on themselves
Yes. People used to do the math differently, based on the moral
concept that we should do what probabilistically saves the most lives.
We also felt that some people should be allowed to volunteer for the
benefit of all. Spock said something like that.
I have volunteered for an inconvenient but not very dangerous
long-term medical study. I did get cool pictures of my brain.
There are easy ways to spend a little money and save millions of lives
every year.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com