Attempting Android setup perfection - I ask your suggestions

[David Taylor]

On 11/08/2016 18:22, Aardvarks wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:36:56 +0100, David Taylor wrote:

Do you mean you don't have any paid-for programs?

I'm likely decades older than many people here, so I started at a time
before computers and cellphones existed in common use; therefore, I am very
experienced at freeware and organization on all platforms.

I have asked before and nobody can come up with much that is worth paying
for that we can't easily find freeware that does the same job.

In fact, there is almost nothing that you can do with payware that you
can't do with freeware.

The only advantage of payware is that it's easy to find good payware.
Very easy.
All it takes is money.

In contrast, it's hard to find the best freeware.
It takes brains.
And effort.

So, to be clear - there *is* a cost to freeware.
The cost is the sometimes immense time it takes to find the best freeware
apps.

Luckily I've done that already, for all the functional things that "I" do.

But I'm always open to better freeware.
If you have suggestions for better freeware than I already have for the
purposes that I already outlined, that would help everyone.

I already listed all the apps I use most (in the original post).
And I already outlined all the functional categories I perform.

I'm wide open.
Rarely can people teach me new things - but I am *always* on the lookout
for that special person who knows more than I do.

I want to learn from he who knows more than I do about these three topics:
a. Getting rid of Google (I seem to know more than anyone here, sadly)
b. Functionally organizing a phone (we all do essentially the same things!)
c. Best freeware for what it is that we do (the cost in freeware is finding
the best for what you're trying to do).

I'll take that as "correct", then.

There are some paid programs for which there are no freeware equivalents
on my Android systems.

[Spurious cross-posting removed, again]

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David
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[The Real Bev]

Actually, I was inspired to try doing that to my phone. I just have to
remember where I put certain things (some apps fit in several different
ones), but I suspect I'll figure it out. I've left some to stand alone
on the theory that either I'll want them instantaneously ("Find my car"
or I use them so often (ES File Explorer) that I don't want to waste
extra taps or brain-pixels.

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Cheers, Bev
Self Test for Paranoia: You know you have it when you can't
think of anything that's your own fault.

 

[nospam]

In article <noiia1$ht5$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:45:15 -0400, nospam wrote:
anytime i or anyone else tries to explain anything to you

Except that *you* have never explained *anything* you say.

once again, you snipped to alter context.


here's the complete quote:

In article <noici4$8ss$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
not only that, but he doesn't get apps from the play store, foolishly
thinking that google won't know which ones he uses.

I would love to learn from you

bullshit you do.

anytime i or anyone else tries to explain anything to you, you go off
on a rant.

and you prove my point:

You speak of the hairy blue monster in the closet, and you scream for your
Apple Marketing Mommy to *protect* you from your imaginary blue monster by
closing the door to make you feel safe (because *feeling* safe, is the only
thing that matters to you).

Yet, there is no hairy blue monster in the closet.
And I proved that with tremendous detail already.

I ask again...

Q: Without logging into anything, and without any google accounts, how is
running a non-Google app offline going to tell Google anything?

 

[nospam]

In article <noij3r$13b$1@dont-email.me>, David Taylor
<david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

There are some paid programs for which there are no freeware equivalents
on my Android systems.

just as there is on every other platform.

and when there is a free equivalent, it often is not as good.

 

[crankypuss]

On 08/11/2016 02:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

Actually, I was inspired to try doing that to my phone. I just have to
remember where I put certain things (some apps fit in several different
ones), but I suspect I'll figure it out. I've left some to stand alone
on the theory that either I'll want them instantaneously ("Find my car"
or I use them so often (ES File Explorer) that I don't want to waste
extra taps or brain-pixels.

I just put my most-frequently-used apps in the easiest-to-get-to place,
and when something gets used often enough to make accessing it an
annoyance, I promote it to an easier-to-access position. Duh?

--
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
[Sat Mar 26: "Documentation and Portability"]

 

[crankypuss]

On 08/11/2016 01:05 PM, Aardvarks wrote:

Q: Without logging into anything, and without any google accounts, how is
running a non-Google app offline going to tell Google anything?

If you don't want google able to peek into your life, you also need to
not use google search, and not visit any websites that use google ad
services, and not do a whole bunch of other stuff, which you largely
can't avoid because when you visit some arbitrary website with a link to
some other arbitrary website, there's no telling in advance what
services any of them are using.

nospam's comment about not using google operating systems is mostly
spot-on, except that just about every maker (possible exceptions that I
know of being Moto and OnePlus) slams their own crapware into/onto
Android before it goes on your phone, and some might remove stuff Google
put there, but the bottom line is this: your OS is a crapshoot, unless
you personally review every line of code in the thing, you're trusting
someone, and the manufacturer (who orders the hardware from China)
doesn't give you the full source code for exactly whatever might be
installed on your phone by the time you gain possession of it.

You're in search of perfection. It's mostly been legislated out of the
realm of possibility due to cutthroat economic competition and a
consumer demographic that reads "mostly housewives and their hubbies or
their kids", ie "*not* computing professionals". If you really value
perfection, you'll find some way to facilitate it other than pissing off
potential friends by continually ranting about things that are totally
messed up; I know this from having been there. Put a cap over your rant
buttons, justified as they may be; remain in the part of the real world
that other people give a shit about, which clearly is not perfection:
Nobby Nobbs wouldn't know perfection if it bit him on the ass, and
probably half the readership here never heard of Nobby to begin with.

Paranoia is a good thing in a system security architect, but as a
consumer you're just pissing in the wind. So if you want perfection,
make your own. If you want to avoid people snooping into your real
life, don't ever enter a true fact about your life into any computer
anywhere. Good luck with that, it's about as useful as turning off
javascript (which imo is a low form of primordial excreta).

This is Earth, the world is fucked-up here, get used to it.

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http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
[Sat Mar 26: "Documentation and Portability"]

 

[Aardvarks]

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:45:14 -0400, nospam wrote:

In fact, there is almost nothing that you can do with payware that you
can't do with freeware.

bullshit.

While there are things that exist only in payware, name a function that you
can do only with payware that I can't do with freeware.

I'm one of the most reasonable men alive - if you can name a functionality
that you have with payware that I care about having with freeware - I'll
already have the freeware to do it.

However, if I want to do it - and if I can't do it with freeware, then I'll
agree with you - but you just always say "bullshit" without backing up any
of your claims.

You never back up your claims.

 

[Aardvarks]

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:19:23 +0100, David Taylor wrote:

There are some paid programs for which there are no freeware equivalents
on my Android systems.

Like what?

 

[Chuck]

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 02:16:20 +0000 (UTC), Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:45:14 -0400, nospam wrote:

In fact, there is almost nothing that you can do with payware that you
can't do with freeware.

bullshit.

While there are things that exist only in payware, name a function that you
can do only with payware that I can't do with freeware.

I'm one of the most reasonable men alive - if you can name a functionality
that you have with payware that I care about having with freeware - I'll
already have the freeware to do it.

However, if I want to do it - and if I can't do it with freeware, then I'll
agree with you - but you just always say "bullshit" without backing up any
of your claims.

You never back up your claims.

A few years ago an app. to access another computer using TS gateway
wasn't available for free on Android.

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