Are you dumbasses ready to celebrate the falling of your $$$

[George Herold]

On Nov 4, 10:03 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:33:16 -0800 (PST), Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Nov 4, 3:18 pm, Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The usenet convention is to bottom post.

And my house is paid for. And US grown food is priced in US dollars,
and is absurdly cheap.

Yep... Costco sells All-Purpose Flour for $0.26 per pound.

My mistake, $0.24/lb.  Tax exempt.

An hour of work at minimum wage can buy more potatoes than most people
would care to carry. You can make a nice meal from pasta, peas, and
maybe a dab of butter and grated parmesan for around 25 cents a
serving. You can make a lot of very tasty chicken quesadillas for not
much money.



There's hardly any European products that most
Americans want, and fewer that we need.

Budweiser?  

I just saw a billboard for Bud Light Wheat Beer. Strange.



Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be
without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer?

What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport)
chocolate is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't
grow cocoa beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

We used to have superb chocolate here in San Francisco, Joseph
Schmidt. Hershey's bought the operation just to shut it down. Bastards
and their gritty sour-milk excuse for chocolate!

BOYCOTT HERSHEYS

It's crap anyhow.

John

Hee Hee... Yeah. Cadbury is not too bad though. (Thanks for
entertaining me John.)

George H.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

krw wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:59:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Michael wrote:

On Nov 4, 3:18 pm, Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The usenet convention is to bottom post.

And my house is paid for. And US grown food is priced in US dollars,
and is absurdly cheap.

Yep... Costco sells All-Purpose Flour for $0.26 per pound.

My mistake, $0.24/lb. Tax exempt.

There's hardly any European products that most
Americans want, and fewer that we need.

Budweiser?


Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be
without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer?


I've never even seen an Ikea store, but from the stupid commercails
they run I wouldn't shop there.

We went to the one in Atlanta in September. It sure was interesting
to see what junk people were buying. I did buy a 1-1/2" Beech butcher
block slab for $100. That was a good deal but the furniture and
cabinets are all crap.

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).

I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[daestrom]

John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:22:10 -0800 (PST), Michael <mrdarrett@gmail.com
wrote:

On Nov 4, 7:03 pm, John Larkin

...

My mistake, $0.24/lb. Tax exempt.
An hour of work at minimum wage can buy more potatoes than most people
would care to carry. You can make a nice meal from pasta, peas, and
maybe a dab of butter and grated parmesan for around 25 cents a
serving. You can make a lot of very tasty chicken quesadillas for not
much money.

Yep, potatoes are around $2 for 10 lbs over here (in Sacramento).

Pasta is just flour and eggs, right?

Most of the Italian stuff is flour and water. Most is made from
US-grown hard winter wheat. We grow it, ship it to Italy, they add
water, they remove the water, and then they sell it back to us.



There's hardly any European products that most
Americans want, and fewer that we need.
Budweiser?
I just saw a billboard for Bud Light Wheat Beer. Strange.

Wheat beers are good.

Widmer is excellent, especially draft. I don't like the Pyramid.

I'll have to try the Bud Light. How do they make wheat beer from rice?



Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be
without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer?
What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport)
chocolate is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't
grow cocoa beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

We used to have superb chocolate here in San Francisco, Joseph
Schmidt. Hershey's bought the operation just to shut it down. Bastards
and their gritty sour-milk excuse for chocolate!

BOYCOTT HERSHEYS

It's crap anyhow.

John

Which Swiss chocolate do you recommend? Lindt?

That's good. Lindor too... maybe the same folks?

What about Ghirardelli?

Mostly mediocre. Their caramel filled darks are good.

I'm partial to their peppermint bark. Only available here around
Christmas though. Something to look forward to next month

daestrom

 

[krw]

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:46:34 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

krw wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:59:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Michael wrote:

On Nov 4, 3:18 pm, Michael <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

...

The usenet convention is to bottom post.

And my house is paid for. And US grown food is priced in US dollars,
and is absurdly cheap.

Yep... Costco sells All-Purpose Flour for $0.26 per pound.

My mistake, $0.24/lb. Tax exempt.

There's hardly any European products that most
Americans want, and fewer that we need.

Budweiser?


Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ear... where would we be
without Ikea, Swiss chocolate and German beer?


I've never even seen an Ikea store, but from the stupid commercails
they run I wouldn't shop there.

We went to the one in Atlanta in September. It sure was interesting
to see what junk people were buying. I did buy a 1-1/2" Beech butcher
block slab for $100. That was a good deal but the furniture and
cabinets are all crap.


The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.

There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35
minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole
isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock
up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.

<http://www.russellstover.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=24&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C24>

<http://www.russellstover.com/storelocator/storelocatormain.jsp>


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Fred Abse]

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate
is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa
beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is
made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing
process that makes it smoother.

Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics
manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:31:46 -0800, Fred Abse
<excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate
is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa
beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is
made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing
process that makes it smoother.

Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics
manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.

So why can't Americans or Brits do that stuff too?

Joseph Schmidt did in San Francisco. Hershey bought his business and
shut it down, presumably because they don't want Americans to know
what real chocolate tastes like.

Dove tastes like chocolate-flavored axle grease.

John

 

[Jamie]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:31:46 -0800, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:


On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:


What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate
is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa
beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is
made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing
process that makes it smoother.

Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics
manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.


So why can't Americans or Brits do that stuff too?

Joseph Schmidt did in San Francisco. Hershey bought his business and
shut it down, presumably because they don't want Americans to know
what real chocolate tastes like.

Dove tastes like chocolate-flavored axle grease.

John

You're not looking at the big picture here!

Remove the cocoa butter to replace it with fatty oils, people get
fat and ugly.. Which increases the market for more facial creams
and the like, made from the cocoa butter!.

I would say, Hershey and Cadbury are mighty smart business organizers!

I've also heard of similar things done with main ingredients for
baking goods of various products.


I used to be a chocolate lover to the extreme, I still em how ever, it
seems that the only chocolate I can stand in the past few years, is the
imported brands. Now I know why!

And don't let us forget the one loved by me, Cream Horns, I no longer
even look at them in the stores now. Bakery is the only place to get a
real one and it must be in a cooler. Most of the store brands are
nothing but whipped up lard and sugar! No dairy cream at all in it.
Never used to be that way! And they wonder why people are getting so fat
so easily in the states.

 

[Fred Abse]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:10:28 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:31:46 -0800, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport)
chocolate is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't
grow cocoa beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is
made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing
process that makes it smoother.

Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics
manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.

So why can't Americans or Brits do that stuff too?

Because they can make more money that way. Cocoa butter is expensive, palm
oil is cheaper. Extended conching (that's the term for the mixing
process), uses expensive energy.

Joseph Schmidt did in San Francisco. Hershey bought his business and
shut it down, presumably because they don't want Americans to know what
real chocolate tastes like.

Dove tastes like chocolate-flavored axle grease.

I've never eaten axle grease, so can't comment. I stick to Lindt, Tobler,
Suchard, et al. ;-)

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.


There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35
minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole
isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock
up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.

http://www.russellstover.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=24&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C24

http://www.russellstover.com/storelocator/storelocatormain.jsp

Watch out for this stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltitol

It made me sick.

John

 

[krw]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:20 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.


There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35
minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole
isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock
up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.

http://www.russellstover.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=24&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C24

http://www.russellstover.com/storelocator/storelocatormain.jsp


Watch out for this stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltitol

It made me sick.

Snowflake sugar-free packages warn about the "laxative effect" if too
much is consumed. I don't particularly like the stuff but it's all
SWMBO can have.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Fred Abse wrote:

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:03:38 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

What I don't understand is why Swiss and German (Ritter Sport) chocolate
is so good and Hersheys and Cadbury are so bad. They don't grow cocoa
beans in Switzerland or in Germany.

Swiss and German, (you missed out Belgian, that's good, too) chocolate is
made using 100% cocoa butter. It's also subjected to a much longer mixing
process that makes it smoother.

Hershey & Cadbury take the cocoa butter out and sell it to cosmetics
manufacturers, then replace it using any old vegetable fat.

I was in a store a few days ago that had fancy 1 pound boxes of
Belgian chocolate for $1.44. They should send it back.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

krw wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:20 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.


There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35
minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole
isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock
up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.

http://www.russellstover.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=24&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C24

http://www.russellstover.com/storelocator/storelocatormain.jsp


Watch out for this stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltitol

It made me sick.

Snowflake sugar-free packages warn about the "laxative effect" if too
much is consumed. I don't particularly like the stuff but it's all
SWMBO can have.

Publix Supermarkets around here carry apple & cherry 'no sugar added'
pies. I don't know if you can find anything like that where you live.
I've had two of the apple pies this year.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.


There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35
minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole
isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock
up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.

http://www.russellstover.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=24&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C24

http://www.russellstover.com/storelocator/storelocatormain.jsp

Watch out for this stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltitol

It made me sick.

John

The artificial sweeteners don't bother me as much as the diabetic
medicine. Metformin should be classed as a 'Weapon of Ass Destruction".
"May cause mild diarrhea" my ass!


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!

 

[krw]

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:54 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

krw wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:41:20 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The commercials they run on the Orlando TV stations make all of their
customers look like Dimbulb.

Most there would have passed the DimBulb test. They were certainly
buying crap by the ton; sucker born every...

I can live without Swiss chocolate, and you can keep all the beer.

That's one the only thing VT was good at, besides Maple syrup (and
fleecing taxpayers, of course).


I have to live without Maple syrup, because of Diabetes.

So does SWMBO. She does like the VT sugar-free chocolate though. I
should send for some for Christmas. GooJF cards are always useful.


There is a Russell Stover factory outlet store that's about a 35
minute drive from here About 20,000 square feet of candy, and a whole
isle of it is sugar free. I drove down about foru months ago to stock
up. It looks like I'll need to go back in a few weeks.

http://www.russellstover.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=24&path=1%2C2%2C4%2C24

http://www.russellstover.com/storelocator/storelocatormain.jsp


Watch out for this stuff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltitol

It made me sick.

Snowflake sugar-free packages warn about the "laxative effect" if too
much is consumed. I don't particularly like the stuff but it's all
SWMBO can have.


Publix Supermarkets around here carry apple & cherry 'no sugar added'
pies. I don't know if you can find anything like that where you live.
I've had two of the apple pies this year.

There aren't any Publix here, yet (two are supposed to open next
year). Do remember that "no sugar added" <> no sugar and "sugar free"
>> 0 calories.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

krw wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Publix Supermarkets around here carry apple & cherry 'no sugar added'
pies. I don't know if you can find anything like that where you live.
I've had two of the apple pies this year.

There aren't any Publix here, yet (two are supposed to open next
year). Do remember that "no sugar added" <> no sugar and "sugar free"
0 calories.

I know that. The sugar is from the apples or cherries. As long as
you don't eat the whole pie in a meal or two, it won't hurt you.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!