Are Gadgets killing PCs?

[Don McKenzie]

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a massive
affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

Cheers Don...

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Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.

 

[Petzl]

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 05:43:31 +1100, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a massive
affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

Cheers Don...

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I think it's because of Windows
My Laptop 2 years old is noe being slowed down by the sloth ware
Windows deliberatly add so you have to buy a new computer and they
then sell another operating system (mines Win7 32 bit home edition and
still don't see it better than what was with "Win3.11").
On the verge ou "Upgrading" Aldi were selling a 10" Android tablet I
am still working out its nuts and bolts but it's not bad (IMO)
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2827_20131.htm
Androus is run on Linux based system, IPads are run on Unix based
system. Run faster don't use anywhere as much dish space light and
very portable with long battery run times.
They are getting better and cheaper
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/
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[Rod Speed]

Don McKenzie wrote

PC sales have flat-lined.

Nope, just havent seen any growth lately, a different matter entirely.

Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a massive affect on current PC
sales.

PC still outsell all the rest combined.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

Corse not. The most we might see is another change
of physical format like we did from desktops to laptops.

> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 22-Jan-12 9:15 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

Corse not. The most we might see is another change
of physical format like we did from desktops to laptops.

Hey, it's getting harder to find a desktop in a shop like JB HiFi
100 laptops, and 6 desktops seems to be almost the norm.

However PCs fully built into screens is becoming more popular.

Cheers Don...

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Just add a VGA monitor or TV, and PS2 Keyboard.
Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.

 

[Rod Speed]

Pretzl wrote

Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone,
iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are
having a massive affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

I think it's because of Windows

You're wrong. Its just another change of physical format like we
saw with laptops and amplified by Job's brilliance at marketing.

My Laptop 2 years old is noe being slowed down by the sloth ware

None of the laptops I look after that came with Win7 are.

Windows deliberatly add so you have to buy a new computer

Just another of your silly little conspiracy theorys.

and they then sell another operating system (mines Win7 32 bit home
edition and still don't see it better than what was with "Win3.11").

More fool you. Its nothing like it.

On the verge ou "Upgrading" Aldi were selling a 10" Android tablet
I am still working out its nuts and bolts but it's not bad (IMO)
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2827_20131.htm

Nothing like the performance of a decent i7 laptop with lots of memory and Win7 64 bit.

Androus is run on Linux based system, IPads are run on Unix
based system. Run faster don't use anywhere as much dish
space light and very portable with long battery run times.

iPads have pathetic battery life compared with a kindle.

They are getting better and cheaper
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/

Electronics always does, stupid.

And notebooks are much slower than a real laptop.

 

[Petzl]

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:33:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Pretzl wrote
Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone,
iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are
having a massive affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

I think it's because of Windows

You're wrong. Its just another change of physical format like we
saw with laptops and amplified by Job's brilliance at marketing.

My Laptop 2 years old is now being slowed down by the sloth ware

None of the laptops I look after that came with Win7 are.

The IT crowd using XP on a computer controlled process believe it and

won't upgrade

Windows deliberatly add so you have to buy a new computer

Just another of your silly little conspiracy theorys.

Don't think so

and they then sell another operating system (mines Win7 32 bit home
edition and still don't see it better than what was with "Win3.11").

More fool you. Its nothing like it.

For me no difference. 3.11 would run on a 386 computer will Win7?

On the verge ou "Upgrading" Aldi were selling a 10" Android tablet
I am still working out its nuts and bolts but it's not bad (IMO)
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2827_20131.htm

Nothing like the performance of a decent i7 laptop with lots of memory and Win7 64 bit.

Show me a 10" Win7 laptop that has a i7 quad chip? Seem reluctant to

produce them. Seem to be saving them for Win8

Androids is run on Linux based system, IPads are run on Unix
based system. Run faster don't use anywhere as much dish
space light and very portable with long battery run times.

iPads have pathetic battery life compared with a kindle.

Mine get 8 hours the Asus Android gets 16 hours and comes with a i7

chip

They are getting better and cheaper
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/

Electronics always does, stupid.

And notebooks are much slower than a real laptop.

Again the only Laptops that come with a i7 weigh around five kilos,

the Asus tablet Eee Pad weighs ˝ kilo and runs on battery 16 hours
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[Rod Speed]

Don McKenzie wrote:

On 22-Jan-12 9:15 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

Corse not. The most we might see is another change
of physical format like we did from desktops to laptops.

Hey, it's getting harder to find a desktop in a shop like JB HiFi

Sure, but plenty in Hardly Normal and I noticed that OfficeWorks
was pushing some in their Back to School ads on TV too.

I'm the only one that has bought one recently amoungst the ones I know tho.

100 laptops, and 6 desktops seems to be almost the norm.

Dont recall the numbers were quite that dramatic at my
Hardly Normal, but still many more laptops than dekstops.

However PCs fully built into screens is becoming more popular.

Dunno, not sure what the sales volumes are like.

I dont like laptops as the main machine myself, but I certainly
use the PC a lot more than anyone else I know does.

I do use one around the house, listening to radio national stuff while
bottling the beer and in the kitchen updating the food database, stuff
I buy in bulk that ends up in the freezer etc. I buy full slabs of porterhouse
and scotch fillet and cut it up myself to get the thick steaks I prefer.

 

[Rod Speed]

Pretzl wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Pretzl wrote
Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone,
iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are
having a massive affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

I think it's because of Windows

You're wrong. Its just another change of physical format like we
saw with laptops and amplified by Job's brilliance at marketing.

My Laptop 2 years old is now being slowed down by the sloth ware

None of the laptops I look after that came with Win7 are.

The IT crowd using XP on a computer controlled process believe it

More fool them, I can prove its a lie.

and won't upgrade

More fool them, Win7 leaves it for dead.

Windows deliberatly add so you have to buy a new computer

Just another of your silly little conspiracy theorys.

Don't think so

Corse it is, its completely trivial to prove that its a bare faced lie.

and they then sell another operating system (mines Win7 32 bit home
edition and still don't see it better than what was with "Win3.11").

More fool you. Its nothing like it.

For me no difference.

Another bare faced lie.

3.11 would run on a 386 computer will Win7?

Who gives a flying red fuck ? No one with even 0.001 of a clue would even use one now.

On the verge ou "Upgrading" Aldi were selling a 10" Android tablet
I am still working out its nuts and bolts but it's not bad (IMO)
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/html/offers/2827_20131.htm

Nothing like the performance of a decent i7 laptop
with lots of memory and Win7 64 bit.

Show me a 10" Win7 laptop that has a i7 quad chip?

Only a fool demands a 10" screen.

Anyone with even half a clue has a much bigger screen and a tablet.

Seem reluctant to produce them.

Because anyone with even 0.001 of a clue doesnt use such
a small screen on a system with a decent capability.

Seem to be saving them for Win8

Fantasy.

Androids is run on Linux based system, IPads are run on Unix
based system. Run faster don't use anywhere as much dish
space light and very portable with long battery run times.

iPads have pathetic battery life compared with a kindle.

Mine get 8 hours

And thats pathetic compared with what a kindle gets.

the Asus Android gets 16 hours

And thats pathetic compared with what a kindle gets.

and comes with a i7 chip

They are getting better and cheaper
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/

Electronics always does, stupid.

And notebooks are much slower than a real laptop.

Again the only Laptops that come with a i7 weigh around five kilos,
the Asus tablet Eee Pad weighs ˝ kilo and runs on battery 16 hours

So anyone with even 0.001 of a clue has both, stupid.

And a proper desktop too so you can stuff it with
the 2TB drives that you need on any decent PVR.

 

[Petzl]

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:53:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

They are getting better and cheaper
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/

Electronics always does, stupid.

And notebooks are much slower than a real laptop.

Again the only Laptops that come with a i7 weigh around five kilos,
the Asus tablet Eee Pad weighs ˝ kilo and runs on battery 16 hours

So anyone with even 0.001 of a clue has both, stupid.

And a proper desktop too so you can stuff it with
the 2TB drives that you need on any decent PVR.

A lot of users like the light weight long battery life (not a kindle

which is just an electronic book) and find it much more productive
rather than hauling a 5 kilo windows Laptop around.
Through the HDMI ports you can run it on in my case 42" LCD
With the USB ports you can add as bigger drives as you want. As most
if not all of your Apps are available on the net there is no need to
have them on your computer. A bit of a problem is to get a "Cloud"
ready printer.
I have a Kodak ESP7 which don't and Kodak have now turned to shit
(where have I heard that before)
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[Rod Speed]

Pretzl wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

They are getting better and cheaper
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/features/

Electronics always does, stupid.

And notebooks are much slower than a real laptop.

Again the only Laptops that come with a i7 weigh around five kilos,
the Asus tablet Eee Pad weighs ˝ kilo and runs on battery 16 hours

So anyone with even 0.001 of a clue has both, stupid.

And a proper desktop too so you can stuff it with
the 2TB drives that you need on any decent PVR.

A lot of users like the light weight long battery life

Yes, but if they use the PC much, they want a lot more than just that too.

(not a kindle which is just an electronic book)

Wrong, as always.

and find it much more productive rather than hauling a 5 kilo windows Laptop around.

Most dont move whatever they use around that much and use a light weight one only when
they do move it around much and use a much more capable system when they dont need that.

Through the HDMI ports you can run it on in my case 42" LCD

And by the time you plug in a decent screen, and a real keyboard,
you might as well have another decent capability system that you
dont have to fart around like that every time you want to use it and
which you can put all your 2TB drives into too.

With the USB ports you can add as bigger drives as you want.

Much more convenient to be able to have them all in a decent desktop system.

As most if not all of your Apps are available on the
net there is no need to have them on your computer.

Most have enough of a clue to have what they use much on the computer
so they dont have to fart around when they want to use them.

A bit of a problem is to get a "Cloud" ready printer.

I print fuck all anyway.

I have a Kodak ESP7 which don't and Kodak have now turned to shit

Nope, its just Chapter 11, stupid.

(where have I heard that before)

Likely it was just the voices in your head, again.

 

[Bruce Varley]

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
news:9o0falFrr3U1@mid.individual.net...

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other
gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a massive affect on current PC
sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-pc-industry-is-heading-for-collapse/17828

Cheers Don...

==================
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Don McKenzie

Dontronics: http://www.dontronics-shop.com/

DuinoMite the PIC32 $35 Basic Computer-MicroController
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/the-maximite-computer.html
Just add a VGA monitor or TV, and PS2 Keyboard.
Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.

They're all gadgets aren't they?

 

[terryc]

Don McKenzie wrote:

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other
gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a massive affect on current PC
sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

Shrug, just morphing to another form.
More gadget orientated.
<tic> been going downhill ever since you purchased four refrigerator
size cabinentto hold the cpu, tape drive, hard disk and a spare</tic>

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Don McKenzie wrote

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a
massive affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

Shrug, just morphing to another form.
More gadget orientated.
tic> been going downhill ever since you purchased four refrigerator
size cabinentto hold the cpu, tape drive, hard disk and a spare</tic

Going downhill since LONG before that, stupid.

 

[terryc]

Rod Speed wrote:

Because anyone with even 0.001 of a clue doesnt use such
a small screen on a system with a decent capability.

Wod, sure your name isn't Ron? As in IRONY.
And in a thread about gadgets too..

 

[terryc]

Rod Speed wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote

PC sales have flat-lined.

Nope, just havent seen any growth lately, a different matter entirely.

Is that "going forward" Vs "in the future"?

 

[terryc]

Don McKenzie wrote:

On 22-Jan-12 9:15 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

Corse not. The most we might see is another change
of physical format like we did from desktops to laptops.

Hey, it's getting harder to find a desktop in a shop like JB HiFi

Correct me if I'm wrong, but JB HiFi's focus selling electronic gadgets,
any electronc gadget that is popular, that is a closed box, especially
if if has lots of high priced add-ons/plug ins.

These don't require much ability in the sales droids. Desktops had that
bad aspect that they needed to be opend to have add-ons added into them.
Gadgets are so much easier.

However PCs fully built into screens is becoming more popular.

Evolution of the laptop?

 

[terryc]

Rod Speed wrote:

terryc wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

PC sales have flat-lined. Seems the Android, iPhone, iPad, and other gadgets, such as internet TVs are having a
massive affect on current PC sales.

Is the PC industry is heading for collapse?

Shrug, just morphing to another form.
More gadget orientated.
tic> been going downhill ever since you purchased four refrigerator
size cabinentto hold the cpu, tape drive, hard disk and a spare</tic

Going downhill since LONG before that, stupid.

If only we could harness George Julius spinning in his grave.

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 22-Jan-12 2:50 PM, terryc wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
terryc wrote

If only we could harness George Julius spinning in his grave.

How many people reading this would know who George Julius was without asking Dr Google?

Cheers Don...

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Just add a VGA monitor or TV, and PS2 Keyboard.
Arduino Shield, Programmed in Basic, or C.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Show me a 10" Win7 laptop that has a i7 quad chip?

Only a fool demands a 10" screen.

Anyone with even half a clue has a much bigger screen and a tablet.

Seem reluctant to produce them.

Because anyone with even 0.001 of a clue doesnt use such
a small screen on a system with a decent capability.

Wod, sure your name isn't Ron? As in IRONY.

Irrelevant to what was being discussed there, fuckwit.

And in a thread about gadgets too..

Wrong, as always.

It was actually about the purported imminent demise of the PC.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

PC sales have flat-lined.

Nope, just havent seen any growth lately, a different matter entirely.

Is that "going forward" Vs "in the future"?

Try that again instead of using gibberish.