Another CFL failure

"Mickel" <mickel@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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On 13/04/10 11:18 PM, petrus bitbyter wrote:
It's not about spelling. Both Philips and Phillips are existing
companies.
So I wonder if the latter (also) sells CFLs.

For christ sake petrus, get a life. You know perfectly well which company
he was talking about.

Michael
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If I realy knew I would not have asked. I know Pillips to be an existing
company and that Philips did not use it's own brand name in the states as it
looked like too much like Phillips. I also know that Philips made a lot of
other things but electronics in the past including metalware and lavatory
gear. So I thought it to be unlikely but possible that a Phillips also makes
and/or sells CFLs in your part of the world. Besides, I have no reason to
mention another ones language errors. Not being a natural speaker my English
is not perfect at all.

petrus bitbyter
 
"petrus bitbyter"
If I realy knew I would not have asked. I know Pillips to be an existing
company
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** Accepting that you meant to write " Phillips" - please supply a link to
this company.

The only reference to a "Philips" company in the USA I can find is to "
Phillips Screw Company" - makers of the Phillips screwdriver.


and that Philips did not use it's own brand name in the states as it
looked like too much like Phillips.
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** Got any proof of that ?

The only consumer electronics company in the USA that might have been
confused with Philips is Philco.


..... Phil
 
On Apr 20, 4:12 am, "petrus bitbyter"
<pieterkraltlaatdit...@enditookhccnet.nl> wrote:
"Mickel" <mic...@nospam.com> schreef in berichtnews:4bcba579$0$2162$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

On 13/04/10 11:18 PM, petrus bitbyter wrote:
It's not about spelling. Both Philips and Phillips are existing
companies.
So I wonder if the latter (also) sells CFLs.

For christ sake petrus, get a life. You know perfectly well which company
he was talking about.

Michael

If I realy knew I would not have asked. I know Pillips to be an existing
company and that Philips did not use it's own brand name in the states as it
looked like too much like Phillips. I also know that Philips made a lot of
other things but electronics in the past including metalware and lavatory
gear. So I thought it to be unlikely but possible that a Phillips also makes
and/or sells CFLs in your part of the world. Besides, I have no reason to
mention another ones language errors. Not being a natural speaker my English
is not perfect at all.

petrus bitbyter
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Metalware and lavatory manufacture ? Does this imply that they
manufacture(d) Urinals. ?
 
"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> schreef in bericht
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"petrus bitbyter"


If I realy knew I would not have asked. I know Pillips to be an existing
company

** Accepting that you meant to write " Phillips" - please supply a link
to this company.

The only reference to a "Philips" company in the USA I can find is to "
Phillips Screw Company" - makers of the Phillips screwdriver.


and that Philips did not use it's own brand name in the states as it
looked like too much like Phillips.

** Got any proof of that ?

The only consumer electronics company in the USA that might have been
confused with Philips is Philco.


.... Phil
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I know of the Philips - Phillips case in the states from the time I worked
for Philips. That has been over ten years by now. I also know about the
Phillips screwdrivers and assumed they were made by the US Phillips but did
not investigate other activities of that Phillips - if any. But as Philips
had - at the time - a lot of other activities but electronics, Phillips
might do other activities but screws.

As for that other Philips activities, they were mentioned at the time I
started to work for Philips and I still remember the Philips brand on the
downside of toilet seats for instance. Philips sold most or even all of that
business to concentrate on lighting and consumer electronics but as I left
Philips I'm not aware of details.

petrus bitbyter
 
"petrus bitbyter"
"Phil Allison"
"petrus bitbyter"


If I realy knew I would not have asked. I know Pillips to be an existing
company

** Accepting that you meant to write " Phillips" - please supply a link
to this company.

The only reference to a "Phillips" company in the USA I can find is to "
Phillips Screw Company" - makers of the Phillips screwdriver.


and that Philips did not use it's own brand name in the states as it
looked like too much like Phillips.

** Got any proof of that ?

The only consumer electronics company in the USA that might have been
confused with Philips is Philco.



I know of the Philips - Phillips case in the states from the time I worked
for Philips.
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** Shame you cannot prove one single word of it.


That has been over ten years by now. I also know about the
Phillips screwdrivers and assumed they were made by the US Phillips but
did
not investigate other activities of that Phillips - if any. But as Philips
had - at the time - a lot of other activities but electronics, Phillips
might do other activities but screws.
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** You might be in big need of Phillips

- since you obviously have so many screws loose.


As for that other Philips activities, they were mentioned at the time I
started to work for Philips and I still remember the Philips brand on the
downside of toilet seats for instance.
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** Wot a load of old BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!

Get a life - fuckwit.


..... Phil
 
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:09:40 +1000, "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

"petrus bitbyter"
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snip

As for that other Philips activities, they were mentioned at the time I
started to work for Philips and I still remember the Philips brand on the
downside of toilet seats for instance.

** Wot a load of old BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!

Get a life - fuckwit.


.... Phil
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Philips certainly did manufacture and sell toilet seats, at least in
the Netherlands. I recollect using the toilet in an older house there
and seeing the Philips shield moulded into the underneath of the lid.

They had plastic moulding factories to produce cabinets and components
for their electronic equipment, its not surprising they also produced
other items.

--
Regards
Malcolm
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"Malcolm Moore" <abor1953needle@yahoodagger.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:09:40 +1000, "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au
wrote:


"petrus bitbyter"

snip

As for that other Philips activities, they were mentioned at the time I
started to work for Philips and I still remember the Philips brand on
the
downside of toilet seats for instance.

** Wot a load of old BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!

Get a life - fuckwit.


.... Phil

Philips certainly did manufacture and sell toilet seats,
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<snip>

As I recall there was one in the UK that made bicycle seats and saddlebags,
but I can't remember if it was one 'l' or two.
 
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:31:10 +0100, "ian field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Malcolm Moore" <abor1953needle@yahoodagger.co.nz> wrote in message
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Philips certainly did manufacture and sell toilet seats,

snip

As I recall there was one in the UK that made bicycle seats and saddlebags,
but I can't remember if it was one 'l' or two.

There was a British bicycle manufacturer called Phillips, two 'll's.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Cycles

It's quite likely they used and/or marketed accessories with their
brand on them.

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Malcolm
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"Malcolm Moore" <abor1953needle@yahoodagger.co.nz> wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:31:10 +0100, "ian field"
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"Malcolm Moore" <abor1953needle@yahoodagger.co.nz> wrote in message
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Philips certainly did manufacture and sell toilet seats,

snip

As I recall there was one in the UK that made bicycle seats and
saddlebags,
but I can't remember if it was one 'l' or two.

There was a British bicycle manufacturer called Phillips, two 'll's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Cycles

It's quite likely they used and/or marketed accessories with their
brand on them.
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Apparently their accessories were more memorable than their cycles.
 
Hello, Trevor!
You wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:46:07 +1000:

TW> Last night's failure was when I dropped a trouble light onto a rock and
TW> it pieced the tube, thus causing it's failure.

TW> So far, here's the list of failures:

TW> 1) Cheap, shitty CFL, failed soon after fitting. I no longer purchase
TW> anything but Phillips branded lamps.
TW> 2) Phillips lamp failed in the garage, when a possum sat on/grabbed the
TW> lamp.
TW> 3) Phillips lamp failed when a rock caused damage to the tube.

TW> For the record:

TW> All my outdoor lighting is CFL (total of 7 lamps).
TW> All bathroom lighting is CFL (total of 3 lamps).
TW> Kitchen lighting is partially CFL (total of 3 lamps).
TW> TV room background lighting is CFL (total of 1, 7 Watt CFL).
TW> Three bedrooms are CFL lit (total of 5 CFLs).
TW> Garage has one CFL.

TW> Two CFLs were brought from my old address and are still providing
TW> excellent performance (as measured by my light meter), relative to the
TW> incandescents they replaced.

TW> Phillips CFLs rule!

My experience seems to reflect yours the pilips CF lamps outlast everything
else, the cheepies aint so cheep when you consider their life span (kinda
short) Cheers
Spelling error inserted for benefit of spelling nazis
With best regards, ChrisRiley. E-mail: asdf@hotmail.com
 
"ChrisRiley" <asdf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hello, Trevor!
You wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:46:07 +1000:

TW> Last night's failure was when I dropped a trouble light onto a rock
and
TW> it pieced the tube, thus causing it's failure.

TW> So far, here's the list of failures:

TW> 1) Cheap, shitty CFL, failed soon after fitting. I no longer purchase
TW> anything but Phillips branded lamps.
TW> 2) Phillips lamp failed in the garage, when a possum sat on/grabbed
the
TW> lamp.
TW> 3) Phillips lamp failed when a rock caused damage to the tube.

TW> For the record:

TW> All my outdoor lighting is CFL (total of 7 lamps).
TW> All bathroom lighting is CFL (total of 3 lamps).
TW> Kitchen lighting is partially CFL (total of 3 lamps).
TW> TV room background lighting is CFL (total of 1, 7 Watt CFL).
TW> Three bedrooms are CFL lit (total of 5 CFLs).
TW> Garage has one CFL.

TW> Two CFLs were brought from my old address and are still providing
TW> excellent performance (as measured by my light meter), relative to the
TW> incandescents they replaced.

TW> Phillips CFLs rule!

My experience seems to reflect yours the pilips CF lamps outlast
everything else, the cheepies aint so cheep when you consider their life
span (kinda short) Cheers
Spelling error inserted for benefit of spelling nazis
With best regards, ChrisRiley. E-mail: asdf@hotmail.com
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I'm sure you meant to type "errors" rather than "error" Chris. :))

As a side note......fitted a 18W Mirabella to my Maglamp, there were no
Philips lamps on the shelf at the supermarket. On initial power up less than
20% of the spiral is illuminated, it takes around 5 minutes to get up to
full speed.
 
"ChrisRiley" <asdf@hotmail.com>


** Beware - Hotmailer on the loose !!!!!!!!


TW> Phillips CFLs rule!

My experience seems to reflect yours the pilips CF lamps outlast
everything else,
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** Huh - what is " pilips " ??

That the same brand as the infamous " Phirrips" ???

ROTFLMAO !!


the cheepies aint so cheep when you consider their life span
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** Philips "Tornado" CFLs are one of the cheapest and worst brands

- you imbecile




.... Phil
 
I have an old Philips 15W unit with a rounded cubical base and four
straight parallel tubes coming out that join at the ends to form the
ionisation path. It's been running fine in the dunny for more than 15
years. It was one of the first CFL's and pretty pricy at the time,
maybe it had suitable specced components.
 
"Mark Harriss"

I have an old Philips 15W unit with a rounded cubical base and four
straight parallel tubes coming out that join at the ends to form the
ionisation path.
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** That sounds like a magnetic ballast fluoro lamp with replaceable compact
tube.

Not the same thing at all as the **electronic ballast** 240 volt CFLs that
we are all being forced to use these days.


It's been running fine in the dunny for more than 15 years.
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** An outdoor dunny light gets used maybe 25 minutes a day - would have
clocked up only 2000 - 3000 hours in 15 years.

Magnetic ballasts go on for ever and the tubes are of quite different and
much longer life design compared to electronic ballast BC and ES type CFLs.

No comparison exists.


..... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Mark Harriss"

I have an old Philips 15W unit with a rounded cubical base and four
straight parallel tubes coming out that join at the ends to form the
ionisation path.


** That sounds like a magnetic ballast fluoro lamp with replaceable compact
tube.

Not the same thing at all as the **electronic ballast** 240 volt CFLs that
we are all being forced to use these days.


It's been running fine in the dunny for more than 15 years.


** An outdoor dunny light gets used maybe 25 minutes a day - would have
clocked up only 2000 - 3000 hours in 15 years.

Magnetic ballasts go on for ever and the tubes are of quite different and
much longer life design compared to electronic ballast BC and ES type CFLs.

No comparison exists.


.... Phil
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The base measures 40mm cubed and has "Electronic" written on the side,
total length is 20cm.
 
"Mark Harrarse Retard"

The base measures 40mm cubed and has "Electronic" written on the side,
total length is 20cm.
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** Is there a standard BC or ES fitting on the thing or not ??

Model number and / or pic required.




.... Phil
 
Phool All-in-bum wrote:
"Mark Harrarse Retard"

The base measures 40mm cubed and has "Electronic" written on the side,
total length is 20cm.


** Is there a standard BC or ES fitting on the thing or not ??

Model number and / or pic required.




... Phil
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Phil, like I give a crap about what you think about CFL's. It exists,
it's quite old, it was very expensive at the time and dates from the
mid 90's as that's about the time I went to Uni, which, I might add,
I successfully completed, unlike other failed maths students whose
name begins with P and ends in N, I could mention.
 
"Mark Harrarse Retard"

The base measures 40mm cubed and has "Electronic" written on the side,
total length is 20cm.
Click to expand...

** Is there a standard BC or ES fitting on the thing or not ??

Model number and / or pic required.

You vile liar.



.... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"Mark Harris"

The base measures 40mm cubed and has "Electronic" written on the side,
total length is 20cm.


** Is there a standard BC or ES fitting on the thing or not ??

Model number and / or pic required.

You vile liar.



... Phil
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Phil, like I give a crap about what you think about CFL's. It exists,
it's quite old, it was very expensive at the time and dates from the
mid 90's as that's about the time I went to Uni, which, I might add,
I successfully completed, unlike other failed maths students whose
name begins with P and ends in N, I could mention.
 
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