An Objective Way To Out Someone Trying To Fake A Science or

Just google the name.

Is the name always found in the OP of many controversial / popular
threads?

This indicates an active mind.

Or is the name always flaming out at the ends of branchs?

If the poster isn't really interested in technology, or fancies it as
something other than what it really is, then he'll always wind up
saying something stupid and, after it's pointed out how stupid it was,
he'll flame out at the end of a branch.

Even more, anyone who is posting to a tech group but isn't really
interested in technology is irrational *per se.*

Do not be surprised if they try to refute the public record as well.


Bret Cahill

 

[kevirwin]

On Aug 30, 1:35 pm, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Just google the name.

Is the name always found in the OP of many controversial / popular
threads?

This indicates an active mind.

Or is the name always flaming out at the ends of branchs?

If the poster isn't really interested in technology, or fancies it as
something other than what it really is, then he'll always wind up
saying something stupid and, after it's pointed out how stupid it was,
he'll flame out at the end of a branch.

Even more, anyone who is posting to a tech group but isn't really
interested in technology is irrational *per se.*

Do not be surprised if they try to refute the public record as well.

Bret Cahill

sounds like "George Hammond".....

just a thought,
K e v

 

[Jerry Kraus]

On Aug 30, 12:35 pm, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Just google the name.

Is the name always found in the OP of many controversial / popular
threads?

This indicates an active mind.

Or is the name always flaming out at the ends of branchs?

If the poster isn't really interested in technology, or fancies it as
something other than what it really is, then he'll always wind up
saying something stupid and, after it's pointed out how stupid it was,
he'll flame out at the end of a branch.

Even more, anyone who is posting to a tech group but isn't really
interested in technology is irrational *per se.*

Do not be surprised if they try to refute the public record as well.

Bret Cahill

There are scientists and engineers who can hardly write a coherent
sentence on the Internet, Bret. And, many scientists and engineers
are quite mentally unstable. They flame regularly, for no particular
reason. Mathematics is their speciality, not language or psychology.
The best way to tell is if they regularly participate intelligently in
mathematics, science and engineering groups. Effectively, if they can
do this, they must have at least some background and facility in these
areas. Of course, your idea of "intelligent participation" and
"flaming" might be quite different from mine, or someone else. I
don't think there's any real formula here.

 

Just google the name.

Is the name always found in the OP of many controversial / popular
threads?

This indicates an active mind.

Or is the name always flaming out at the ends of branchs?

If the poster isn't really interested in technology, or fancies it as
something other than what it really is, then he'll always wind up
saying something stupid and, after it's pointed out how stupid it was,
he'll flame out at the end of a branch.

Even more, anyone who is posting to a tech group but isn't really
interested in technology is irrational *per se.*

Do not be surprised if they try to refute the public record as well.

There are scientists and engineers who can hardly write a coherent
sentence on the Internet, Bret. ďż˝

You are basing your opinions on real scientists on one bad experience
with a professional economist. Professional economists are not only
not scientists or engineers, they are often the biggest frauds and on
earth.

Why do you think I always garner dozens of hits for my "$200 for a
Shill Tank Answer" post every time I launch it?

.. . .

Mathematics is their speciality, not language or psychology.
The best way to tell is if they regularly participate intelligently in
mathematics, science and engineering groups. ďż˝

Do they fit the profile above?

If so then they have nothing to contribute, no knowledge or IP.

Effectively, if they can
do this, they must have at least some background and facility in these
areas. ďż˝

They are as useless as Al Gore in a dust devil if they fit the
profile.

Of course, your idea of "intelligent participation" and
"flaming" might be quite different from mine, or someone else. �I
don't think there's any real formula here.

There may be an issue as to what is on topic for a group but the OP
and end of branch posting profile are purely objective.

Google could easily provide baseball style stats for each poster,

1. The number of OPs.

2. The number of OPs/response postings.

3. The number of responses/OP.

4. The average number of different posters/OP.

5. The above stats over time, a graph to show improvement.

Someone suggest the above to Google.


Bret Cahill

 

On Aug 30, 10:35 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Just google the name.

Well, if it brings up a page showing a cartoon of
some perpetual motion machine (or is it a Mohammed
cartoon?), then, yes, this is a pretty good indication.

"They're coming to take me away, ha ha, ho ho, ho hum."
Bret Cahill XIV

 

Just google the name.

Doesnt help with those who use lots of nyms.

All the nyms of a single person will fit the same profile which will
out those using nyms.

Is the name always found in the OP of many controversial / popular threads?

This indicates an active mind.

Nope, just a pathetic excuse for a troll/complete raving loony most of the time.

Then let's out these trolls and raving loonies by encouraging to
Google to compile and publish OP/branch stats on each poster's
profile.

Everyone would know the number of your OPs, your OPs/total posting
ratio, the number of times you flame out at the end a branch, number
of branch endings/total postings, etc.

People would say, "hey, look at Rod's stats! He hasn't started a
thread in years! He always flames out at the end of a branch on
someone else's thread. That Rod is one brilliant thoughtful logical
contributor!"

Or is the name always flaming out at the ends of branchs?

The most that can indicate is a short fuse/doesnt tolerate fools/trolls.

Has flaming out at the end of a branch ever shut up any fools or
trolls? Trying something over and over that doesn't work is the
definition of insanity.

Now, Rod, tell everyone here:

You _still_ want Google to publish stats on your posting profile?

If the poster isn't really interested in technology, or fancies
it as something other than what it really is, then he'll always
wind up saying something stupid and, after it's pointed out
how stupid it was, he'll flame out at the end of a branch.

FAR more often its just whats inevitable with any discussion, no one changes their original position
and the style of the ending has a lot more to do with the nature of usenet than anything else.

Mostly they just dodge / change the issue.

That's why the issue must be raised again in a new OP.

Even more, anyone who is posting to a tech group but
isn't really interested in technology is irrational *per se.*

Wrong again. Some arent interested in the tech but are interested in discussing other things

Then why aren't they discussing those "other things" on other groups?

If there is no other group for their "issue" then why don't they start
one?


Bret Cahill

 

[gb]

Deranged.

 

[gb]

American big brother at work. Herbert Spencer in 1860 wrote of minds
shaped and enslaved by systems of power and have these ideas set such
minds to work, more
in the 21st Century.

 

[gb]

American big brother at work. Herbert Spencer in 1860 wrote of minds
shaped and enslaved by systems of power and have these ideas set such
minds to work, more
in the 21st Century.

The difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans are
nobodies and Americans feel they can outlaw if not mankind itself
and be big and with it open in prejudice and sentiment as greatest.
We live in history. Reality is that people are not slaves of anyone.
Why 'Americans' come up with this question? Why civil rights feel
violated in the 21st Century? Why not human aspects are seen as
the problem of discrimination, instead one seeks discrimination. Such
things will have to stop. There is a new direction against blindness
of
power effecting culture and humanity in degrading and in regards the
Iraq war in genocide, where all are ants and giants rule head is not
functioning properly.

 

[gb]

On Aug 31, 12:29 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

American big brother at work. Herbert Spencer in 1860 wrote of minds
shaped and enslaved by systems of power and have these ideas set such
minds to work, more
in the 21st Century.

The difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans are
nobodies and Americans feel they can outlaw if not mankind itself
and be big and with it open in prejudice and sentiment as greatest.
We live in history. Reality is that people are not slaves of anyone.
Why 'Americans' come up with this question? Why civil rights feel
violated in the 21st Century? Why not human aspects are seen as
the problem of discrimination, instead one seeks discrimination. Such
things will have to stop. There is a new direction against blindness
of
power effecting culture and humanity in degrading and in regards the
Iraq war in genocide, where all are ants and giants rule head is not
functioning properly.

You see, you are that guy, child and brain of a system... New
Direction
is a thing that happens to be exactly like the Perestroyka in the
CCCP.
We live in history. There is big brother. During the last years of the
CCCP
there was a Soviet-Afghan war that faught Islamist extremism and as
the US-Iraq war, left over a million dead in fighting extremism. The
Soviet-Afghan war completely weakened the Soviet economy and allowed
change. A guy came to power, now Barack is expected to come into
power allowing change, and with this change bringing a human
revolution
against the brainchilds of the system. A revolution that opens doors
for
Europe and EU to separate, and to look forward a new direction, where
people at large are concerned about human rights and do not allow
racism and genocide and uncontrollable forms of powers deciding over
public aspects under guidelines of the not very smart regime today,
right?

 

[gb]

On Aug 31, 12:48 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Aug 31, 12:29 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:





American big brother at work. Herbert Spencer in 1860 wrote of minds
shaped and enslaved by systems of power and have these ideas set such
minds to work, more
in the 21st Century.

The difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans are
nobodies and Americans feel they can outlaw if not mankind itself
and be big and with it open in prejudice and sentiment as greatest.
We live in history. Reality is that people are not slaves of anyone.
Why 'Americans' come up with this question? Why civil rights feel
violated in the 21st Century? Why not human aspects are seen as
the problem of discrimination, instead one seeks discrimination. Such
things will have to stop. There is a new direction against blindness
of
power effecting culture and humanity in degrading and in regards the
Iraq war in genocide, where all are ants and giants rule head is not
functioning properly.

You see, you are that guy, child and brain of a system... New
Direction
is a thing that happens to be exactly like the Perestroyka in the
CCCP.
We live in history. There is big brother. During the last years of the
CCCP
there was a Soviet-Afghan war that faught Islamist extremism and as
the US-Iraq war, left over a million dead in fighting extremism. The
Soviet-Afghan war completely weakened the Soviet economy and allowed
change. A guy came to power, now Barack is expected to come into
power allowing change, and with this change bringing a human
revolution
against the brainchilds of the system. A revolution that opens doors
for
Europe and EU to separate, and to look forward a new direction, where
people at large are concerned about human rights and do not allow
racism and genocide and uncontrollable forms of powers deciding over
public aspects under guidelines of the not very smart regime today,
right?

You start talking from the deep throat, like tavarish.

 

[Bret Cahill]

Of course, your idea of "intelligent participation" and
"flaming" might be quite different from mine, or someone else. ?I
don't think there's any real formula here.

There may be an issue as to what is on topic for a group but the OP
and end of branch posting profile are purely objective.

I'm curious.

That's only because you don't know me. If you had the stats on me you
would either go to other threads ("this Cahill loser does nothing but
flame out at the ends of branches and everyone knows it") or if you
_did_ post to my threads you'ld spend less time flaming and more time
making a contribution to the debate.

This is the first indication I've seen that you have any
awareness of appropriate behavior on usenet.

Who decides what is appropriate behaviour?

A dictatorship of an individual or collective?

DeTocqueville went into a long digression hoping to find something
"more orderly" than complete freedom of the press. That's when he
finally came up with his now famous conclusion:

"You started with an abuse of liberty and I find you beneath a
despot's foot."

Instead of debating something as hopelessly subjective as what is
"appropriate" why not just give out the stats of posters and also make
it possible to limit searches to OPs and BEs (branch endings)?

Are you saying that you are
aware and understand that different newsgroups exist to discuss
different topic and that crossposting is rude and unwanted?

Who decides if and what crossposting is bad?

Instead of debating all these subjective issues it is much better to
just give out the stats and profiles of posters, maybe a cross posting
index as well. Mine might be high but my philosophy is
multidisciplinarity solves problems.

I'd be happy for everyone to know I often cross post.

Google could easily provide baseball style stats for each poster,

1. �The number of OPs.

2. �The number of OPs/response postings.

3. �The number of responses/OP.

4. �The average number of different posters/OP.

5. �The above stats over time, a graph to show improvement.

Someone suggest the above to Google.

We could call it the troll index.

Maybe have some hands off automatic kill file for those with the
"wrong" stats.

Right now a lot of thin skinned types are kill filing posters merely
because they couldn't take the truth.


Bret Cahill


"Philosophize with a hammer."

-- Nietzsche

 

[Bret Cahill]

American big brother at work.

The info is already public. It just isn't easy to compile unless you
have the time or money to track a poster. This levels the playing
field for everyone.

Google already does this for some stats, raw posting activity.

If you post here it means you tacitly support the spread of
information.


Bret Cahill

 

[Bret Cahill]

Is the name always found in the OP of many controversial / popular threads?
This indicates an active mind.

Nope,

If no one started any threads, you wouldn't be able to type,

"Nope."

"Never happen."

"Nuke."

"In spades . . ."

all day long.


Bret Cahill

 

[gb]

On Aug 31, 12:55 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Aug 31, 12:48 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Aug 31, 12:29 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

American big brother at work. Herbert Spencer in 1860 wrote of minds
shaped and enslaved by systems of power and have these ideas set such
minds to work, more
in the 21st Century.

The difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans are
nobodies and Americans feel they can outlaw if not mankind itself
and be big and with it open in prejudice and sentiment as greatest.
We live in history. Reality is that people are not slaves of anyone.
Why 'Americans' come up with this question? Why civil rights feel
violated in the 21st Century? Why not human aspects are seen as
the problem of discrimination, instead one seeks discrimination. Such
things will have to stop. There is a new direction against blindness
of
power effecting culture and humanity in degrading and in regards the
Iraq war in genocide, where all are ants and giants rule head is not
functioning properly.

You see, you are that guy, child and brain of a system... New
Direction
is a thing that happens to be exactly like the Perestroyka in the
CCCP.
We live in history. There is big brother. During the last years of the
CCCP
there was a Soviet-Afghan war that faught Islamist extremism and as
the US-Iraq war, left over a million dead in fighting extremism. The
Soviet-Afghan war completely weakened the Soviet economy and allowed
change. A guy came to power, now Barack is expected to come into
power allowing change, and with this change bringing a human
revolution
against the brainchilds of the system. A revolution that opens doors
for
Europe and EU to separate, and to look forward a new direction, where
people at large are concerned about human rights and do not allow
racism and genocide and uncontrollable forms of powers deciding over
public aspects under guidelines of the not very smart regime today,
right?

You start talking from the deep throat, like tavarish.

You are trying to blackmail those already on blacklists, as that to
look
better among your comrads. Extremist big brother is a human rights
crime with discrimination defining individuality and views of
extremism.
No thank you, tavarish American. Do not keep on thinking, the world
already hates radical extreme coming from the United States.

 

[gb]

On Aug 31, 1:18 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Aug 31, 12:55 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Aug 31, 12:48 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Aug 31, 12:29 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

American big brother at work. Herbert Spencer in 1860 wrote of minds
shaped and enslaved by systems of power and have these ideas set such
minds to work, more
in the 21st Century.

The difference between Europeans and Americans is that Europeans are
nobodies and Americans feel they can outlaw if not mankind itself
and be big and with it open in prejudice and sentiment as greatest.
We live in history. Reality is that people are not slaves of anyone..
Why 'Americans' come up with this question? Why civil rights feel
violated in the 21st Century? Why not human aspects are seen as
the problem of discrimination, instead one seeks discrimination. Such
things will have to stop. There is a new direction against blindness
of
power effecting culture and humanity in degrading and in regards the
Iraq war in genocide, where all are ants and giants rule head is not
functioning properly.

You see, you are that guy, child and brain of a system... New
Direction
is a thing that happens to be exactly like the Perestroyka in the
CCCP.
We live in history. There is big brother. During the last years of the
CCCP
there was a Soviet-Afghan war that faught Islamist extremism and as
the US-Iraq war, left over a million dead in fighting extremism. The
Soviet-Afghan war completely weakened the Soviet economy and allowed
change. A guy came to power, now Barack is expected to come into
power allowing change, and with this change bringing a human
revolution
against the brainchilds of the system. A revolution that opens doors
for
Europe and EU to separate, and to look forward a new direction, where
people at large are concerned about human rights and do not allow
racism and genocide and uncontrollable forms of powers deciding over
public aspects under guidelines of the not very smart regime today,
right?

You start talking from the deep throat, like tavarish.

You are trying to blackmail those already on blacklists, as that to
look
better among your comrads. Extremist big brother is a human rights
crime with discrimination defining individuality and views of
extremism.
No thank you, tavarish American. Do not keep on thinking, the world
already hates radical extreme coming from the United States.

Black and white: Europe is disgusted of all "BLACKLISTS OF PERVASION".

 

[gb]

American big brother at work.

The info is already public.  It just isn't easy to compile unless you
have the time or money to track a poster.  This levels the playing
field for everyone.

Google already does this for some stats, raw posting activity.

If you post here it means you tacitly support the spread of
information.

Bret Cahill

Levels of playing field? Like a casino? Should I call myself
30 dollar casino warrior?

 

[gb]

On Aug 31, 2:59 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

American big brother at work.

The info is already public.  It just isn't easy to compile unless you
have the time or money to track a poster.  This levels the playing
field for everyone.

Google already does this for some stats, raw posting activity.

If you post here it means you tacitly support the spread of
information.

Bret Cahill

Levels of playing field? Like a casino? Should I call myself
30 dollar casino warrior?

Level of playing field. There is a 1000 dollar level?

 

[gb]

On Aug 31, 2:59 pm, gb <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

American big brother at work.

The info is already public.  It just isn't easy to compile unless you
have the time or money to track a poster.  This levels the playing
field for everyone.

Google already does this for some stats, raw posting activity.

If you post here it means you tacitly support the spread of
information.

Bret Cahill

Levels of playing field? Like a casino? Should I call myself
30 dollar casino warrior?

No 30 dollar casino warriors.

 

[gb]

I think the easiest way to identify someone posing as qualified is to
check the number of crossposted groups. The more groups the more
confusion; the metric simply never fails.

As qualified for casino. No 30 dollar casino warriors. There is a
level
of playing field for 1000 dollar reqirements. I figure you people out
how
you think. There is a metric. You people are in a casino.