American Workers Aren\'t Cutting It...

On 8/15/2023 2:08 PM, boB wrote:

Don, you must be older like me ? I\'m 69.

\"Like\" is a relative term. :> But, yes, my career started almost 50
years ago. <frown

I started just over 50 years ago after high school, not counting the 7
years 5 or 6 years earlier building ham radio stuff at around age 12.
Certainly not counting the earlier years sticking things into AC
outlets, etc. :)

Ah, you did that, too?

\"Gee, I wish I could listen to this crystal set in my bedroom! Hmm,
it\'s got two wires and the outlet by my bed has two, as well...\"

I used to fix TVs way back when. None of that going on here either
nowadays. Well, maybe very slightly.

Most consumer kit is disposable. The days of \"pulling all the tubes and
heading up to the drug store to use their tube tester\" are long past.

I used to \"rescue\" discarded (LCD/LED) TVs to divert them from the
land fill. But, after three or four, you run out of places to put them!
And, most folks already *have* two or three so its hard to find
places to gift them (esp as most folks want the TV to be \"current\"
and aren\'t capable of driving it with external electronics that can
be KEPT current).

I found a few good things in the elctronics recycle pile one block
from work next to the transfer station. Even a nice 4 channel
Tektronix scope. It worked for a couple of days until we came back
from lunch to find it all burned up. Must have gotten damp I think.

I\'ve volunteered at a few groups that try to divert items from
landfills: reuse, repurpose, recycle. If I could repair something
that they could then give to some underprivileged kid, then it
solves two problems! Or, refurbish a bit of medical kit to send to
MX, central america, etc. (we even rescued an electron microscope!
Amazing the stuff people \"discard\") Or, refurbing electric wheelchairs
(nasty process as many are urine soaked, etc.).

[I built a system to \"sanitize\" disks prior to reuse \"quickly\".
Then, obsoleted it by automating a self-test procedure that
would run diagnostic code in the machine-to-be-rescued and
wipe the disk in the process. Then, install a new OS so it
could be warehoused until a need found]

The big problem is that folks who get things for free tend not to value
them. Or, they expect perpetual free support! (ain\'t gonna happen!)

[I\'ve subsequently refocused my efforts to address a \"better\" need]

Even the 1980-ish TV design job mentioned above was \"lets replace the
ANALOG signal path with digital electronics\" to reduce cost and add features
(e.g., imagine an analog implementation of PiP or \"freeze frame\", etc.)
It wasn\'t intended to make things more reliable or easier to repair...

My dad worked in the TV/Radio repair business during the 1950s which
is why I got into electronics in the first place, I am pretty sure.
Dad was smart and a great mentor to me way back when.

Ah. My folks were factory workers. I learned most of the Trades
being around their many blue-collar family/associates (auto maintenance,
plumbing, carpentry, electrical, small engine repair, roofing, tuck
pointing, small/major appliance repair, etc.).

I had no specific interest in electronics; just figuring out how things
work and fixing them. Though I did *assemble* a Dynaco PAT5 & 400,
an AM transmitter and a few other \"toys\". Designed a digital lock
using parts salvaged from pin setters (!), a CDI, a setback thermostat,
keypad lock for the garage door opener, digital/microprocessor-based
timepieces, etc.

Folks around me knew nothing of electronics so anything in that realm I
had to learn on my own. Programs for gifted students in grammar school
exposed me to lots of other bits of science and, eventually, technology.

Now, my interests are more along the lines of how far into the fringes
I can push technology to do things better by adopting less conventional
approaches.

[And, of course, the always popular mind-f*cks that leave people
off-balance! (E.g., A clock that displays time in LEDs arranged as
*braille* cells)]

I suspect they chose feenigs because of the size of the workforce with
RELATED skillsets, etc. High tech isn\'t very well distributed in the
state. It would be like setting up shop near Boston to tap into all
of those universities\' graduates (and existing tech companies).

Intel has fabs on Phoenix (Chandler) where you may be ?
Someone had to start there before there were a bunch of technically
skilled folks ? Microchip and On Semi and others have offices and
some prototype fabs I think. Maybe you know which ones ?

Not much knowledge of feenigs metro. Had a colleague who went to
work for Microchip (?) many years ago. But, most of the folks
I interact with, regularly, are self-employed so I can\'t comment
on \"normal work\".

Anyway, I had seen and article or video about the lack of ground
movement that is imortant for fine featured ICs.

Could be. I suspect it needs to not just be \"localized stability\".
E.g., I recall a metrology lab at a place I worked where they isolated
that corner of the building (heavy manufacturing equipment) and sank
supports deep into the bedrock to keep things from shaking.

boB (wintering and working in the Phoenix area)

Ah, I\'m a *permanent* resident to your south -- enjoying the clear skies,
warm weather, spectacular rainstorms, etc. (delightful meteor shower
two? nights ago -- pity the folks who live under cloud cover!)

I LOVE being able to see the night sky even from Sun City but
esepecially a friends\' place up near Wittman.

It seems they make an effort to control the amount of skyward
light leaks (no doubt the emphasis on astronomy). The street
lights, parking lot illumination, etc. are all mandated to
control light pollution.

Our neighborhood is pretty dark -- except for the right-wingers
who live in perpetual fear of some crime being committed (IME,
most happens during daylight!).

I used to lie on the roof to watch the meteor showers but now
just stand, looking upward, on terra firma. It particularly makes
a difference for the Leonids!

> It\'s a bit hot right now in Phoenix so I am here in Everett and

Ah, you *noticed* that? :>

> Arlington, WA working while I am taking chemotherapy for cancer.

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully, it turns things around!

> Probably best being here until October or November.

Yeah, October tends to mark the return of the Winter Visitors...
when all the retail prices go up to take advantage of their
(coerced) largesse! :>
 

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