All About Plasma Televisions

[News]

Most people know plasma TVs as those unbelievably thin display monitors that
can be hung on your wall just like pieces of video art. (To give you an idea
of the space-saving advantages of plasma technology, consider this: A
40-inch TV may be two feet deep and weigh upwards of 150 pounds, while the
same size plasma display might have a depth of, say, 6 inches and weigh half
as much.) But this isn't your average slimmed-down television set. The
display itself consists of thousands of "cells," which are individual glass
compartments injected with neon-xenon gas suspended in plasma-hence the
"plasma" appellation. These cells are the basic elements comprising the
picture you see on your TV screen. When the gases are electrically charged,
they strike red, green, and blue phosphors. Just like that, an image (which
is nothing more than the sum of the aforementioned colored elements,
commonly known as "pixels") is born.

http://erwinttl.blogspot.com/

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:49:24 -0500, the renowned "Art"
<plotsligt@comcast.net> wrote:

Nor do they delve into the fragile nature of the display, the high
possibility of permanent burn-in, the thermal effect of the atmosphere
surrounding the display, nor the limited life span. Indeed these are awesome
display devices but before dropping the Euros, Kronas, Pesos, Loonies,
Dollars, etc it is highly suggested the consumer do some real in depth
research into the reliability of these devices.

Just buy one. You won't regret it. ;-)

 

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:49:24 -0500, "Art" <plotsligt@comcast.net>
wrote:

Nor do they delve into the fragile nature of the display,

I don't recommend dropping any type of video display.

the high possibility of permanent burn-in,

Not unique to plasma nor as likely as with older ones.

the thermal effect of the atmosphere surrounding the display,

CRTs and all projectors get hot, too.

nor the limited life span.

Projected to be longer than I will want to keep it.

Indeed these are awesome
display devices but before dropping the Euros, Kronas, Pesos, Loonies,
Dollars, etc it is highly suggested the consumer do some real in depth
research into the reliability of these devices.

Agreed.

Kal

 

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

Just buy one. You won't regret it. ;-)

Yeah, somebody, please buy one! Personally, I'm waiting another 5
years till the lifetimes come up and the prices come down. People who
buy them today will feel (in a couple of years) just like the folks
who bought them 2 years ago do now...

 

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 19:21:27 -0500, William P.N. Smith wrote:

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
Just buy one. You won't regret it. ;-)

Yeah, somebody, please buy one! Personally, I'm waiting another 5
years till the lifetimes come up and the prices come down. People who
buy them today will feel (in a couple of years) just like the folks
who bought them 2 years ago do now...

Yes but, in 5 years, you will have new technology to find fault with
and we will have had 5 years of enjoyment. ;-)

Kal

 

Kalman Rubinson <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote:

Yes but, in 5 years, you will have new technology to find fault with
and we will have had 5 years of enjoyment. ;-)

Only if you #define Television Enjoyment

8*)

 

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 06:00:50 -0500, "Art" <plotsligt@comcast.net>
wrote:

Kal: Referring to the fact that the plasma changes physical characteristics
when the surrounding air temperature changes, as with a draft caused from
normal air circulation. Like in a residential home that has forced air
heating and cooling.

Ah. I was thinking the other way around. I have not noticed such a
change but, then again, my room is pretty stable with very little
drafting.

Kal

 

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:40:49 -0500, William P.N. Smith wrote:

Kalman Rubinson <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote:
Yes but, in 5 years, you will have new technology to find fault with
and we will have had 5 years of enjoyment. ;-)

Only if you #define Television Enjoyment

Who said anything about "Television?"

Kal

 

[Kalman Rubinson]

On 5 Nov 2004 22:20:23 -0800, stratus46@yahoo.com (Glenn Gundlach)
wrote:

You are right about viewing angles and color. And of course, the
geometry is flawless. LCDs (direct and projectors) and DLPs are also
excellent on geometry and about half the price of current plasmas. It
all depends on your preferences and what you're willing to trade off.

Exactly! All these arguments about the 'best' technology are only
relevant to the situation. In my particular case, plasma was the
optimum solution. However, last weekend I had a visitor who was
stunned by the quality of my setup but I advised him to get a FP for
his room and, after discussion, he agreed.

Kal

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
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On 5 Nov 2004 22:20:23 -0800, stratus46@yahoo.com (Glenn Gundlach)
wrote:

You are right about viewing angles and color. And of course, the
geometry is flawless. LCDs (direct and projectors) and DLPs are also
excellent on geometry and about half the price of current plasmas. It
all depends on your preferences and what you're willing to trade off.

Exactly! All these arguments about the 'best' technology are only
relevant to the situation. In my particular case, plasma was the
optimum solution. However, last weekend I had a visitor who was
stunned by the quality of my setup but I advised him to get a FP for
his room and, after discussion, he agreed.

Kal

"Go see Kal, go see Kal, go see Kal!"
http://www.mydogspot.com/

 

Kalman Rubinson <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote:

Who said anything about "Television?"

Yeah, you're right, I'm in the wrong thread. 8*|

 

[Kalman Rubinson]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:14:13 -0500, William P.N. Smith wrote:

Kalman Rubinson <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote:
Who said anything about "Television?"

Yeah, you're right, I'm in the wrong thread. 8*|

Ah. Well, despite the title of the thread, all the discussion has
been about display technology applicable to television as well as to
other sources, such as DVD. When I responded about enjoying the
plasma for years, there was no mention of television and, in my case,
the primary enjoyment derives from DVDs.

Kal

 

[Glenn Gundlach]

"News" <erwinttl@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<418925b7_1@news.tm.net.my>...

Most people know plasma TVs as those unbelievably thin display monitors that
can be hung on your wall just like pieces of video art. (To give you an idea
of the space-saving advantages of plasma technology, consider this: A
40-inch TV may be two feet deep and weigh upwards of 150 pounds, while the
same size plasma display might have a depth of, say, 6 inches and weigh half
as much.) But this isn't your average slimmed-down television set. The
display itself consists of thousands of "cells," which are individual glass
compartments injected with neon-xenon gas suspended in plasma-hence the
"plasma" appellation. These cells are the basic elements comprising the
picture you see on your TV screen. When the gases are electrically charged,
they strike red, green, and blue phosphors. Just like that, an image (which
is nothing more than the sum of the aforementioned colored elements,
commonly known as "pixels") is born.

http://erwinttl.blogspot.com/

All true but they neglect to mentionj the power consumption. A 50"
plasma can come in at 700 watts and has necessary cooling fans-- not
noisy but a nice space heater.
gg

 

[Art]

Nor do they delve into the fragile nature of the display, the high
possibility of permanent burn-in, the thermal effect of the atmosphere
surrounding the display, nor the limited life span. Indeed these are awesome
display devices but before dropping the Euros, Kronas, Pesos, Loonies,
Dollars, etc it is highly suggested the consumer do some real in depth
research into the reliability of these devices.
"Glenn Gundlach" <stratus46@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:acb22b57.0411040115.26d14e17@posting.google.com...

"News" <erwinttl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<418925b7_1@news.tm.net.my>...
Most people know plasma TVs as those unbelievably thin display monitors
that
can be hung on your wall just like pieces of video art. (To give you an
idea
of the space-saving advantages of plasma technology, consider this: A
40-inch TV may be two feet deep and weigh upwards of 150 pounds, while
the
same size plasma display might have a depth of, say, 6 inches and weigh
half
as much.) But this isn't your average slimmed-down television set. The
display itself consists of thousands of "cells," which are individual
glass
compartments injected with neon-xenon gas suspended in plasma-hence the
"plasma" appellation. These cells are the basic elements comprising the
picture you see on your TV screen. When the gases are electrically
charged,
they strike red, green, and blue phosphors. Just like that, an image
(which
is nothing more than the sum of the aforementioned colored elements,
commonly known as "pixels") is born.

http://erwinttl.blogspot.com/

All true but they neglect to mentionj the power consumption. A 50"
plasma can come in at 700 watts and has necessary cooling fans-- not
noisy but a nice space heater.
gg

 

[Art]

Kal: Referring to the fact that the plasma changes physical characteristics
when the surrounding air temperature changes, as with a draft caused from
normal air circulation. Like in a residential home that has forced air
heating and cooling.<

Yes, the ambient air temperature changes do effect the plasma display.
I Don't really care about the thermal rise as a result of the normal
operations of the plasma display, professional mounting and proper
location will resolve that problem, I have yet to see anyone dumb enough
to put one of these into a entertainment enclosure where the normal
thermal dispersion can not occur.
The Burn In problem is more severe with plasma displays, it will become
permanend in a much shorter time than with any crt design, that fact is
highly documented.
"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message

news:rnglo0tvijtic8ghcdn5jgekiijetv72m4@4ax.com...

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:49:24 -0500, "Art" <plotsligt@comcast.net
wrote:

Nor do they delve into the fragile nature of the display,

I don't recommend dropping any type of video display.

the high possibility of permanent burn-in,

Not unique to plasma nor as likely as with older ones.

the thermal effect of the atmosphere surrounding the display,

CRTs and all projectors get hot, too.

nor the limited life span.

Projected to be longer than I will want to keep it.

Indeed these are awesome
display devices but before dropping the Euros, Kronas, Pesos, Loonies,
Dollars, etc it is highly suggested the consumer do some real in depth
research into the reliability of these devices.

Agreed.

Kal

 

[Chaos Master]

Na măo de Spehro Pefhany (speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat) é mais barato:

Nor do they delve into the fragile nature of the display, the high
possibility of permanent burn-in, the thermal effect of the atmosphere
surrounding the display, nor the limited life span. Indeed these are awesome
display devices but before dropping the Euros, Kronas, Pesos, Loonies,
Dollars, etc it is highly suggested the consumer do some real in depth
research into the reliability of these devices.

Just buy one. You won't regret it. ;-)

Here in Brazil a Plasma TV costs about R$ 20000 ($7000) -- the price of a car.
I think that very few people actually own one.

[]s
--
Chaos MasterŽ, posting from Brazil.
"When there's nothing left to process, not even a bit,
the CPU must reset, and 0000:0000 should be hit."

http://marreka.no-ip.com | http://tinyurl.com/46vru | http://renan182.no-ip.org
| http://marreka.blogspot.com (in Portuguese)

 

[Glenn Gundlach]

Kalman Rubinson <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message news:<rnglo0tvijtic8ghcdn5jgekiijetv72m4@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:49:24 -0500, "Art" <plotsligt@comcast.net
wrote:

Nor do they delve into the fragile nature of the display,

I don't recommend dropping any type of video display.

the high possibility of permanent burn-in,

Not unique to plasma nor as likely as with older ones.

the thermal effect of the atmosphere surrounding the display,

CRTs and all projectors get hot, too.

nor the limited life span.

Projected to be longer than I will want to keep it.

Indeed these are awesome
display devices but before dropping the Euros, Kronas, Pesos, Loonies,
Dollars, etc it is highly suggested the consumer do some real in depth
research into the reliability of these devices.

Agreed.

Kal
Not even dropping. I heard of a custodian leaning a broom handle on a

plasma and breaking the front panel. As far a 'hot' goes, how hot are
we talking ? A 700 watt plasma will run you around 10 cents an hour
just to power it up in California (pricy power here). I'm not familiar
with CRT projectors but I would be surprised if they reached 300
watts. My 50" DLP runs around 200. The 35" Mitsubishi it replaced was
195 watts.

We have several Panasonic 50" plasmas at work and they are wonderful
RFI generators, I.E don't try to run an AM radio within 10 feet. Also,
you will notice some odd grainy noise not present in a CRT unit. We
believe these are by-products of the PWM control.

You are right about viewing angles and color. And of course, the
geometry is flawless. LCDs (direct and projectors) and DLPs are also
excellent on geometry and about half the price of current plasmas. It
all depends on your preferences and what you're willing to trade off.
gg