AI as a cult...

[bitrex]

On 3/23/2023 12:05 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:20:14 -0700, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:

On 3/22/23 09:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:50:57?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-is-reviving-san-francisco-s-tech-scene-welcome-to-cerebral-valley/ar-AA18Eg9C

Nothing will come out of that kind of organized dis-organization- maybe should be dysorganization. That word doesn\'t seem to be in the dictionary, but it damn well should be.

AI is a fad, like nanotech. A money sink.


He said, as the robot pushed him down the elevator shaft!


Why go robots always have eyes that glow? That sounds like bad optics
to me.

Or for that matter, why are they most always humanoid?

Trillions of dollars will be spent into R&D on how to connect some kind
of GPT-like algorithm to an android body, only to find that the finished
product mostly likes to watch sports, gossip with other androids, and is
largely unemployable.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:08:56 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2023 12:05 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:20:14 -0700, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:

On 3/22/23 09:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:50:57?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-is-reviving-san-francisco-s-tech-scene-welcome-to-cerebral-valley/ar-AA18Eg9C

Nothing will come out of that kind of organized dis-organization- maybe should be dysorganization. That word doesn\'t seem to be in the dictionary, but it damn well should be.

AI is a fad, like nanotech. A money sink.


He said, as the robot pushed him down the elevator shaft!


Why go robots always have eyes that glow? That sounds like bad optics
to me.

Or for that matter, why are they most always humanoid?


Trillions of dollars will be spent into R&D on how to connect some kind
of GPT-like algorithm to an android body, only to find that the finished
product mostly likes to watch sports, gossip with other androids, and is
largely unemployable.

Of course one we have multiple AI oracles, they will use up all our
power generation powering flame wars.

 

[bitrex]

On 3/23/2023 11:37 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:08:56 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2023 12:05 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:20:14 -0700, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:

On 3/22/23 09:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:50:57?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-is-reviving-san-francisco-s-tech-scene-welcome-to-cerebral-valley/ar-AA18Eg9C

Nothing will come out of that kind of organized dis-organization- maybe should be dysorganization. That word doesn\'t seem to be in the dictionary, but it damn well should be.

AI is a fad, like nanotech. A money sink.


He said, as the robot pushed him down the elevator shaft!


Why go robots always have eyes that glow? That sounds like bad optics
to me.

Or for that matter, why are they most always humanoid?


Trillions of dollars will be spent into R&D on how to connect some kind
of GPT-like algorithm to an android body, only to find that the finished
product mostly likes to watch sports, gossip with other androids, and is
largely unemployable.

Of course one we have multiple AI oracles, they will use up all our
power generation powering flame wars.

One of the more \"interesting\" Fermi paradox rationales I\'ve read lately
is the idea that technological civilizations founded by biological
organisms rapidly merge with machines but then encounter difficult
thermal management issues, so have to power down for long periods of time.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:55:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2023 11:37 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:08:56 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2023 12:05 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:20:14 -0700, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:

On 3/22/23 09:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:50:57?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-is-reviving-san-francisco-s-tech-scene-welcome-to-cerebral-valley/ar-AA18Eg9C

Nothing will come out of that kind of organized dis-organization- maybe should be dysorganization. That word doesn\'t seem to be in the dictionary, but it damn well should be.

AI is a fad, like nanotech. A money sink.


He said, as the robot pushed him down the elevator shaft!


Why go robots always have eyes that glow? That sounds like bad optics
to me.

Or for that matter, why are they most always humanoid?


Trillions of dollars will be spent into R&D on how to connect some kind
of GPT-like algorithm to an android body, only to find that the finished
product mostly likes to watch sports, gossip with other androids, and is
largely unemployable.

Of course one we have multiple AI oracles, they will use up all our
power generation powering flame wars.


One of the more \"interesting\" Fermi paradox rationales I\'ve read lately
is the idea that technological civilizations founded by biological
organisms rapidly merge with machines but then encounter difficult
thermal management issues, so have to power down for long periods of time.

Of course AI makes no sense. It\'s just more bad code.

Nobody has a clue how our brains work. How can a logic system with
millisecond prop delays do the math to hit a spinning tennis ball?

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 12:54:38 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:50:57?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-is-reviving-san-francisco-s-tech-scene-welcome-to-cerebral-valley/ar-AA18Eg9C

Nothing will come out of that kind of organized dis-organization- maybe should be dysorganization. That word doesn\'t seem to be in the dictionary, but it damn well should be.
AI is a fad, like nanotech. A money sink.

It\'s already all over the place, and has been for quite some time now. The news is just picking it up as it affects people directly. Transportation and logistics use it a lot. Any application that in the recent past used \"decision support\" automation, and that goes back almost 40 years, is now almost certainly using fully automated AI. The problem with AI, as I see it, is there are just some situations that are \"unlearnable\"- making AI a ridiculous method. The self-driving car craze is probably an example of that.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 22/03/2023 16:54, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 2:50:57?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/ai-is-reviving-san-francisco-s-tech-scene-welcome-to-cerebral-valley/ar-AA18Eg9C

Nothing will come out of that kind of organized dis-organization- maybe should be dysorganization. That word doesn\'t seem to be in the dictionary, but it damn well should be.

AI is a fad, like nanotech. A money sink.

Not necessarily. AI has traditionally over promised and under delivered
but this time it is rather different. Alpha Go demonstrated that.

AI is starting to reach the point now where in the right problem domains
it can out think the very best humans. It\'s a form of automation will
see off a lot of well paid white collar jobs in the process.

AI vehicle drivers are close to and possibly now already better than the
average driver on the road - they are just a bit too expensive as yet.

--
Martin Brown