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Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.
 
On 2020-07-27 12:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED?   Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?  I
thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I
can\'t find any such thing.

<https://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+tv&s=d> ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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On 7/27/2020 12:57 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-27 12:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED?   Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? 
I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED,
but I can\'t find any such thing.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+tv&s=d>   ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Ha, it Duck Duck Goosed it for me!

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On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:56:19 PM UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

As Phil implied by his link, their are organic LEDs (OLED) display TVs on the market. Many at consumer friendly prices (<$3000). As a display device hey can perform very well.

Inorganic LEDs are use in commercial displays, i.e. all over Times Square NYC.
At the other end of the scale are micro LEDs. They exist in special idustry for near-to-eye displays (military applications).

A consmuer-ish \"pseudo micro LED\" was demo\'ed at CES once by Sony. a Prototype so far.
 
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:14:08 +0100, Rich S <richsulinengineer@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:56:19 PM UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

As Phil implied by his link, their are organic LEDs (OLED) display TVs on the market. Many at consumer friendly prices (<$3000). As a display device hey can perform very well.

$3000 is not consumer friendly! Or are you talking about a 70 inch screen?!

Inorganic LEDs are use in commercial displays, i.e. all over Times Square NYC.
At the other end of the scale are micro LEDs. They exist in special idustry for near-to-eye displays (military applications).

A consmuer-ish \"pseudo micro LED\" was demo\'ed at CES once by Sony. a Prototype so far.
 
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

There\'s some difficulty with non-organic LEDs being SO hard to make three colors,
but this projector-compatible item shows that there is some progress being made

<https://youtu.be/52ogQS6QKxc>
 
Commander Kinsey wrote:

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> Are any TVs just LED?

** No.

> Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?

** Yep - highly efficient white ones.


I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED,
but I can\'t find any such thing.

** No fooling ?

TV screens are intended for indoor use in subdued light - get yourself a Lux meter and see how the difference is HUGE like 1000s to 1.

Large LED screens have long existed and are used outdoors, as are LED traffic lights.

Horses for courses ...


...... Phil
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 00:57:07 +0100, Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:

=======================

Are any TVs just LED?

** No.

You\'re incorrect, I found OLED.

Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?

** Yep - highly efficient white ones.

Not very efficient when you block half the light with the LCD in front of it.

I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED,
but I can\'t find any such thing.

** No fooling ?

Do you mean \"no kidding\"?

> TV screens are intended for indoor use in subdued light

Really? Do you shut the curtains when you watch TV? I don\'t. That\'s only needed for cheap shit projectors.

> - get yourself a Lux meter and see how the difference is HUGE like 1000s to 1.

Difference between what and what?

Large LED screens have long existed and are used outdoors, as are LED traffic lights.

Horses for courses ...
 
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:12:17 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

There\'s some difficulty with non-organic LEDs being SO hard to make three colors,

Really? You can buy LEDs of red green and blue pretty easily.

but this projector-compatible item shows that there is some progress being made

https://youtu.be/52ogQS6QKxc

What would those be used for? TV inside glasses right next to your eye? Otherwise I don\'t think your eye can detect 10,000 dpi.
 
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:57:58 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-07-27 12:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I
thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I
can\'t find any such thing.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+tv&s=d> ;)

Don\'t be so rude, I didn\'t know the term \"OLED\".
 
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:11:10 +0100, amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 7/27/2020 12:57 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-07-27 12:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED,
but I can\'t find any such thing.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+tv&s=d> ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Ha, it Duck Duck Goosed it for me!

I got that too. How the fuck did Duckduckgo intercept that?
 
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:52:45 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:12:17 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

There\'s some difficulty with non-organic LEDs being SO hard to make three colors,

Really? You can buy LEDs of red green and blue pretty easily.

That doesn\'t mean you can mass-produce a full array on a wafer, though.


but this projector-compatible item shows that there is some progress being made

https://youtu.be/52ogQS6QKxc

What would those be used for? TV inside glasses right next to your eye? Otherwise I don\'t think your eye can detect 10,000 dpi.

Put a lens in front of it, and project to a screen. Kinda like a 16mm film projector, but the
light is power-efficient and there\'s no moving parts.
 
Commander Kinsey Total Asshole Puked wrote:

========================================

Commander Kinsey wrote:

=======================

Are any TVs just LED?

** No.

You\'re incorrect, I found OLED.

** So not LED.
Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?

** Yep - highly efficient white ones.

Not very efficient ...

** When you shift the context like an asshole.


I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED,
but I can\'t find any such thing.

** No fooling ?

Do you mean \"no kidding\"?

** No fooling is more of an insult, fuckhead.


TV screens are intended for indoor use in subdued light

Really?

** Yes - you fucking moron.


- get yourself a Lux meter and see how the difference is HUGE like 1000s to 1.

Difference between what and what?

** Are you really that fucking retarded ?

Or just another piece of Septic trailer trash ?



...... Phil
 
On 28/07/20 01:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:57:58 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-07-27 12:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED?   Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?  I
thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I
can\'t find any such thing.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+tv&s=d>   ;)

Don\'t be so rude, I didn\'t know the term \"OLED\".

You are rude, wasting people\'s time by posting questions
without doing basic research.

You owe the Oracle three minutes of life.
 
Lmgtfy.com now lets you choose search engines.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:19:16 +0100, <pcdhobbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lmgtfy.com now lets you choose search engines.

Then shouldn\'t that acronym get longer, like the LGBTQP stuff?
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:11:57 +0100, Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 28/07/20 01:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:57:58 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-07-27 12:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I
thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I
can\'t find any such thing.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=oled+tv&s=d> ;)

Don\'t be so rude, I didn\'t know the term \"OLED\".

You are rude, wasting people\'s time by posting questions
without doing basic research.

I cannot look up something without knowing the name of it.

> You owe the Oracle three minutes of life.

What would you like me to do for you for those three minutes sire?
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:04:14 +0100, Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Commander Kinsey Total Asshole Puked wrote:

========================================

Commander Kinsey wrote:

=======================

Are any TVs just LED?

** No.

You\'re incorrect, I found OLED.

** So not LED.

That\'s like saying a Ferrari isn\'t a car.

Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel?

** Yep - highly efficient white ones.

Not very efficient ...

** When you shift the context like an asshole.

I did no such thing, I asked about pure LED TVs.

I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED,
but I can\'t find any such thing.

** No fooling ?

Do you mean \"no kidding\"?

** No fooling is more of an insult, fuckhead.

You just made it up.

TV screens are intended for indoor use in subdued light

Really?

** Yes - you fucking moron.

Not many do that.

- get yourself a Lux meter and see how the difference is HUGE like 1000s to 1.

Difference between what and what?

** Are you really that fucking retarded ?

Or just another piece of Septic trailer trash ?

Are you really another Rod Speed sock, or are you just of a similarly low IQ?
 
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:42:09 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:52:45 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:12:17 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

There\'s some difficulty with non-organic LEDs being SO hard to make three colors,

Really? You can buy LEDs of red green and blue pretty easily.

That doesn\'t mean you can mass-produce a full array on a wafer, though.

Why not? those colours have been around for decades.

but this projector-compatible item shows that there is some progress being made

https://youtu.be/52ogQS6QKxc

What would those be used for? TV inside glasses right next to your eye? Otherwise I don\'t think your eye can detect 10,000 dpi.

Put a lens in front of it, and project to a screen. Kinda like a 16mm film projector, but the
light is power-efficient and there\'s no moving parts.

Ah, good idea. So I assume something similar but not as good is used on those phones that have \"projectors\" in them. I\'d always assumed they\'d be shit.

So how efficient are those things? They seemed to be making a lot of light for something that small, I assume they are way more efficient than say a normal household LED light?
 
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:00:15 PM UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:14:08 +0100, Rich S <richsulinengineer@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:56:19 PM UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Are any TVs just LED? Or is LED just a backlight to an LCD panel? I thought they\'d invented TVs where every dot was a tricolour LED, but I can\'t find any such thing.

As Phil implied by his link, their are organic LEDs (OLED) display TVs on the market. Many at consumer friendly prices (<$3000). As a display device hey can perform very well.

$3000 is not consumer friendly! Or are you talking about a 70 inch screen?!

Inorganic LEDs are use in commercial displays, i.e. all over Times Square NYC.
At the other end of the scale are micro LEDs. They exist in special idustry for near-to-eye displays (military applications).

A consmuer-ish \"pseudo micro LED\" was demo\'ed at CES once by Sony. a Prototype so far.

Yes. The top-of-the line Sony and LG OLED 65-inch TVs are around $2000 to 3000. (LCD types this size are under $1000). LG also has some very good OLED 55-inchers at around $1500.

2020 was supposed to be the year when a lot new players (from China) enter the OLED TV market, and drive these prices down. But, haven\'t seen \'em yet!
 

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