8.8 magnitude quake strikes Japan

[kreed]

On Mar 13, 8:12 am, "Gagi-9a6aag" <g...@hi.htnet.hr> wrote:

"kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote

Considering how real estate went up in the early 2000's, I'm glad I
did this and got in early (well very early).

same here...i bought my house in 2001.....1 year later prices jumped high up
for 200%...that was a real luck

By the end of 02 they were starting to rise here. Probably 2-3 x
increase.

The problem now is that electricity, water and other essentials are
now doing the same.

 

[Rod Speed]

kreed wrote

Gagi-9a6aag <g...@hi.htnet.hr> wrote
kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote

Considering how real estate went up in the early 2000's,
I'm glad I did this and got in early (well very early).

same here...i bought my house in 2001.....1 year later
prices jumped high up for 200%...that was a real luck

By the end of 02 they were starting to rise here. Probably 2-3 x increase.

The problem now is that electricity, water and other essentials are
now doing the same.

Not by anything like as much.

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating
anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity used.

 

[Gagi-9a6aag]

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote

The problem now is that electricity, water and other essentials are
now doing the same.

hmm...same here...are you sure you are not Croatian?!?! ))))

 

[Gagi-9a6aag]

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote

Well, on the very day of his 21st birthday, he was in San Franciso!
He was on a government sponsored world trip. They eventually called it
WWII.
On the same day, the Japanese bombed Darwin.

He was with the RAAF as an airplane driver doing what they called the
empire training scheme in Edmonton Canada.
His mates talked him into doing a trip south for his birthday to
celebrate, so they got a few days leave, and drove down to San Francisco,
which was a fair sort of drive in 1942.

They wanted to see a little bit of the US, being so close. Actually saw a
horrible version of early colo(u)r TV in a bar in SF.

Cheers Don...

hahaha....well, as a Royall pilot he didnt need a travel ticket...just to
sit in any plane and wooooosh

gov. sponsored trip = WW2 ...hahahahaha what a black humor )))))))

color and colour both is better then BW

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 13-Mar-11 1:32 PM, Gagi-9a6aag wrote:

"kreed"<kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote

The problem now is that electricity, water and other essentials are
now doing the same.

hmm...same here...are you sure you are not Croatian?!?! ))))

Prices on local Aussie electronics has been very good in recent years.

dollar value compared to USD has doubled in 10 years:
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=AUD&to=USD&view=10Y
yes from 48 cents to ~$1.

Then there is what I call the global leveling field, where prices become more competitive, as there are less middle men,
and less profits from the manufacturer through to the consumer.

In fact right now may be the best time to buy a new PC, etc., before the Japanese shortage occurs on silicon and other
similar commodities.

Cheers Don...

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[kreed]

On Mar 13, 12:41 pm, "Gagi-9a6aag" <g...@hi.htnet.hr> wrote:

"Don McKenzie" <5...@2.5A> wrote



Well, on the very day of his 21st birthday, he was in San Franciso!
He was on a government sponsored world trip. They eventually called it
WWII.
On the same day, the Japanese bombed Darwin.

He was with the RAAF as an airplane driver doing what they called the
empire training scheme in Edmonton Canada.
His mates talked him into doing a trip south for his birthday to
celebrate, so they got a few days leave, and drove down to San Francisco,
which was a fair sort of drive in 1942.

They wanted to see a little bit of the US, being so close. Actually saw a
horrible version of early colo(u)r TV in a bar in SF.

Cheers Don...

hahaha....well, as a Royall pilot he didnt need a travel ticket...just to
sit in any plane and wooooosh

gov. sponsored trip = WW2 ...hahahahaha what a black humor )))))))

color and colour both is better then BW

The compulsory government sponsored trips for Australians to Vietnam
40 odd years ago weren't really
popular either.

 

[terryc]

Gagi-9a6aag wrote:

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote

Considering how real estate went up in the early 2000's, I'm glad I
did this and got in early (well very early).

same here...i bought my house in 2001.....1 year later prices jumped high up
for 200%...that was a real luck

That happens in certain areas. the area has a poor reputation , but
there are good streets with good houses going cheap. It will eventually
correct.

 

[terryc]

Rod Speed wrote:

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating
anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

 

[SG1]

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:ilhk6q$d8s$2@news.eternal-september.org...

Rod Speed wrote:

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating
anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into the
brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

 

[kreed]

On Mar 13, 3:18 pm, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

Gagi-9a6aag wrote:
"kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote

Considering how real estate went up in the early 2000's, I'm glad I
did this and got in early (well very early).

same here...i bought my house in 2001.....1 year later prices jumped high up
for 200%...that was a real luck

That happens in certain areas. the area has a poor reputation , but
there are good streets with good houses going cheap. It will eventually
correct.

Pretty much agree with that. Its getting unaffordable for people to
service, and there has to be some sort of correction.

 

[F Murtz]

SG1 wrote:

"terryc"<newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:ilhk6q$d8s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
Rod Speed wrote:

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating
anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into the
brickwork. Is it worthwhile??


If your copper pipes are 1/2' dia and only short probably not.

In some cases you are only talking a very small volume of water from
heater to tap.

 

[Rod Speed]

terryc wrote

Rod Speed wrote

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating anyway and end up with no increase in the
cost of electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes.

Mine were lagged when the house was built.

Dropped that part by 20%.

I saved a lot more than that by not using fan heaters.

 

[Rod Speed]

SG1 wrote

terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating anyway and end up with no increase in the
cost of electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into the brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

Nope.

 

[SG1]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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SG1 wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter
heating anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity
used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by
20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into
the brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

Nope.

I thought so...

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-03-13, SG1 <lostitall@the.races> wrote:

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:ilhk6q$d8s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
Rod Speed wrote:

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating
anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into the
brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

The bit closest to the cylinder also wastes heat by conducting it from the
cylinder, maybe 50W(a guess) , if you don't make a special trip to
get materials it'll save you money in the long run.

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[Don Hills]

In article <4d7c5ce8$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, "SG1" <lostitall@the.races> wrote:

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into the
brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

That's where you lose most of the heat. It's worth lagging, even if you
don't do the rest of the system.
Wait until no water has been drawn for 10 minutes or so, then run your hand
along the pipe. You'll find it's very hot at the cylinder and cools rapidly
as you move along the pipe.

You start to observe the law of diminishing returns as you lag more of the
system - the energy you save is balanced by the lagging costs. It just about
makes sense in a new build, but not if you have to rip off wall coverings.

 

[Rod Speed]

Jasen Betts wrote

SG1 <lostitall@the.races> wrote
terryc <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter
heating anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of
electricity used.

If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears
into the brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

The bit closest to the cylinder also wastes heat by conducting it
from the cylinder, maybe 50W(a guess) ,

Its nothing like 50W

if you don't make a special trip to get materials it'll save you money in the long run.

Sure, but nothing like 20%

 

[terryc]

SG1 wrote:

"terryc" <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:ilhk6q$d8s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
Rod Speed wrote:

And its trivial to save a lot of the electricity used for winter heating
anyway and end up with no increase in the cost of electricity used.
If you have offpeak HWS, lag your copper pipes. Dropped that part by 20%.

Just measured how much I could lag, 1 metre before it dissappears into the
brickwork. Is it worthwhile??

IMO, yes. We have that awful mixer crap on the outside, so have a little
bit more copper. Eventually I intend to get under (pillars) and lag the
lot. Only problem has been fining UV resistant cable ties.

 

[terryc]

Rod Speed wrote:

Dropped that part by 20%.

I saved a lot more than that by not using fan heaters.

Your fan heaters run on off peak?
I shudder to think what the bill would be with fan heater. always had
slow ombustion here, but LPG/gas heating is far better for most.

 

[terryc]

kreed wrote:

On Mar 13, 3:18 pm, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:
Gagi-9a6aag wrote:
"kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote
Considering how real estate went up in the early 2000's, I'm glad I
did this and got in early (well very early).
same here...i bought my house in 2001.....1 year later prices jumped high up
for 200%...that was a real luck
That happens in certain areas. the area has a poor reputation , but
there are good streets with good houses going cheap. It will eventually
correct.

Pretty much agree with that. Its getting unaffordable for people to
service, and there has to be some sort of correction.

Way OT, but my 2c is that there is far too much money being pumped into
superannuation and with shares maxed, that means funds are going to flow
into real estate and boost the prices.