100 Million Tons of Li

In article <CaGdnRMdd59toN7UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...
Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty miles is
half way across their country! His perspective is different than ours where
one county can be 20,000 sq miles.


And most of it is up hill! ;-)
Both directions.


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krw wrote:
In article <CaGdnRMdd59toN7UnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...

Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty miles is
half way across their country! His perspective is different than ours where
one county can be 20,000 sq miles.


And most of it is up hill! ;-)

Both directions.

And covered with ice six months out of the year. All of the odd
months.


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Bob Eld wrote:

"Claude Hopper" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote

No it's not. I used to commute 50 miles one way. That leaves me a little
short. If the Tesla can go 250 miles and the EV1 could go 100 on lead
acid, like I said, what's wrong with GM? You know they are
anti-electric. People who had EV1's loves them so they got taken away
and crushed. Had they gone into production they would have improved
substantially.
The Volt will be prices at 40K+. You also know that GM COULD copy
Tesla's hand made car at 98K and mass produce them for 40K. I think
Exxon/Mobil's dick is too far up GM's butt.

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty miles is
half way across their country! His perspective is different than ours where
one county can be 20,000 sq miles.
I'm referring to urban commuting which is by far the largest use of personal
transport. It's a little more than 80 miles in some directions btw.

Day 1: Penzance - Lands End - St Ives
Distance: 30.03 miles
Time: 2 hours 38 minutes
Average speed: 11.4 m.p.h.
Distance from Lands End: 20 miles
Distance to John o'Groats: 1000 miles
http://tandem2008.blogspot.com/2008/05/day-1-penzance-lands-end-st-ives.html

Graham
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

krw wrote:
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...
Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty miles is
half way across their country! His perspective is different than ours where
one county can be 20,000 sq miles.

And most of it is up hill! ;-)

Both directions.

And covered with ice six months out of the year. All of the odd
months.
What a strange comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plockton.

Been there btw. You don't see palm trees much in Britain never mind in Scotland.

Graham
 
Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

krw wrote:
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...
Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty miles is
half way across their country! His perspective is different than ours where
one county can be 20,000 sq miles.

And most of it is up hill! ;-)

Both directions.

And covered with ice six months out of the year. All of the odd
months.

What a strange comment.

Dumb Donkey doesn't understand US humor. "Oh, Yeah? Well, I had to
walk 25 miles one way to school. It snowed every other day, and it was
up hill in both directions!" Its something you tell a kid who is
complaining about something silly. This really fits with you because the
kids don't get it, either.


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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
krw wrote:
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...
Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty miles is
half way across their country! His perspective is different than ours where
one county can be 20,000 sq miles.

And most of it is up hill! ;-)

Both directions.

And covered with ice six months out of the year. All of the odd
months.

What a strange comment.

Dumb Donkey doesn't understand US humor. "Oh, Yeah? Well, I had to
walk 25 miles one way to school. It snowed every other day, and it was
up hill in both directions!" Its something you tell a kid who is
complaining about something silly. This really fits with you because the
kids don't get it, either.
Sadly, Americans often don't get British Humour either, especially the really dry or
obscure stuff.

Graham
 
Claude Hopper wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Claude Hopper wrote:

Bret Cahill wrote:
Can Li be cheaply extracted from sea water?
Why Li? The EV1 used to have a range up to 100 miles on lead acid
batteries and 150 miles on NiCads. So why can't the Volt do better than
40 miles????????? Because it rigged not to work.

You've utterly missed the point of the Volt (and the Opel Flextreme and
hybrids in general). 40 miles is a sensible commuting distance. It doesn't
NEED to do more on battery power, so why make it more expensive (higher
battery replacement costs) and heavy (batteries are very heavy for their
energy density) for range you only use on long journeys when the ICE can
take over ?

The EV1 only sat TWO PEOPLE btw. Not exactly a practical car. It was also
economically totally unviable. The Volt is a compact but full-size car in
comparison. We don't know the cost yet but it WILL be lower in real terms
than the EV1.

"The Gen 1 cars got 55 to 75 miles (90 to 120 km) per charge with the
Delco-manufactured lead-acid batteries" btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ev1

Graham


No it's not. I used to commute 50 miles one way. That leaves me a little
short.
It's your lifestyle that leaves you short. The days of happy motoring are coming
to an end.

If the Tesla can go 250 miles and the EV1 could go 100 on lead
acid, like I said, what's wrong with GM? You know they are
anti-electric. People who had EV1's loves them so they got taken away
and crushed. Had they gone into production they would have improved
substantially.
The Volt will be prices at 40K+. You also know that GM COULD copy
Tesla's hand made car at 98K and mass produce them for 40K. I think
Exxon/Mobil's dick is too far up GM's butt.
 
Eeyore wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
krw wrote:
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...
Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty
miles is half way across their country! His perspective is
different than ours where one county can be 20,000 sq miles.

And most of it is up hill! ;-)

Both directions.

And covered with ice six months out of the year. All of the odd
months.

What a strange comment.

Dumb Donkey doesn't understand US humor. "Oh, Yeah? Well, I had to
walk 25 miles one way to school. It snowed every other day, and it was
up hill in both directions!" Its something you tell a kid who is
complaining about something silly. This really fits with you because the
kids don't get it, either.

Sadly, Americans often don't get British Humour either, especially the really
dry or obscure stuff.
It's because the Brits misspell 'humor'.


 
Maximust wrote:

Claude Hopper wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

"The Gen 1 cars got 55 to 75 miles (90 to 120 km) per charge with the
Delco-manufactured lead-acid batteries" btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ev1

No it's not. I used to commute 50 miles one way. That leaves me a little
short.

It's your lifestyle that leaves you short. The days of happy motoring are coming
to an end.
They came to an end in S.E. England at least 20 years ago. I can't recall driving
for pleasure for easily that long. I try and avoid any unnecessary journey now.
Congestion, badly timed lights, speed cameras. It's all too much trouble except for
essential travel like commuting where public transport has very rarely been a viable
option for me. There's a limit to where the trains go and the buses are infinitely
slow. One example, a 45 minute commute by car became 2 1/4 hours by bus, train plus
bus when my car was out of action. That's 4 1/2 hours commuting a day !

Graham
 
Maximust wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
krw wrote:
mike.terrell@earthlink.net says...
Bob Eld wrote:

Keep in mind that Graham is in England, a tiny little place. Forty
miles is half way across their country! His perspective is
different than ours where one county can be 20,000 sq miles.

And most of it is up hill! ;-)

Both directions.

And covered with ice six months out of the year. All of the odd
months.

What a strange comment.

Dumb Donkey doesn't understand US humor. "Oh, Yeah? Well, I had to
walk 25 miles one way to school. It snowed every other day, and it was
up hill in both directions!" Its something you tell a kid who is
complaining about something silly. This really fits with you because the
kids don't get it, either.

Sadly, Americans often don't get British Humour either, especially the really
dry or obscure stuff.

It's because the Brits misspell 'humor'.
Now don't start that business ! Why's it called English ? It's the language of the
people who live in England. I accept that various modified forms exist. You should
however call yours 'US English'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language

Btw, the PRC is catching up fast as one of the biggest users of the English
language. They speak it VERY well too, as do the Swedes in particular.

Graham
 

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