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SEVEN SEVILLE
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WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO FM FOR FREE?
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William R. Walsh
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It took you this long to come up with a halfway good point?
Seriously, some folks like the lack of commercials. Me? I'll just listen to
FM -- it doesn't cost anything and there's a fair guarantee that a radio
that will play it can be found easily and right away.
TV and radio (even the premium offerings) just don't seem worth paying for
to me.
William
Seriously, some folks like the lack of commercials. Me? I'll just listen to
FM -- it doesn't cost anything and there's a fair guarantee that a radio
that will play it can be found easily and right away.
TV and radio (even the premium offerings) just don't seem worth paying for
to me.
William
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techforce
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The Kind that kill parakeets for fun.
"SEVEN SEVILLE" <johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote in message
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| WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO
FM FOR FREE?
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| WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO
FM FOR FREE?
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gothika
Guest
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:23:47 -0500, SEVEN SEVILLE
<johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote:
True, the only selling points of XM are , no commercials and digital
quality.
The commercial free aspect will go away once they've gotten enough
subscribers hooked on this new medium. If you don't believe that just
look at cable television. We can all remember when it was completely
free of commercial, after all that's what the subscribers payed for,
commercial free, uncensored viewing.
As for me I can get the digital quality I want from cd's and the newer
24bit digital audio from DVD's and for a whole lot less than what it
costs to buy the XM hardware and pay the monthly fees.
(For what one pays for the crap that they call cable service nowadays
I can rent a ton of movies at my local video store.(when I cancelled
cable I was paying over 70 bucks a month just to get the 1 or 2 movie
they'd run. Renting I get the half dozen or so movies every month from
my local video store, get them in DVD which is better quality, and pay
less than 15 buck.)
Subscribing to ANY entertainment service today is a terrible waste of
money.
<johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote:
WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO FM FOR FREE?
True, the only selling points of XM are , no commercials and digital
quality.
The commercial free aspect will go away once they've gotten enough
subscribers hooked on this new medium. If you don't believe that just
look at cable television. We can all remember when it was completely
free of commercial, after all that's what the subscribers payed for,
commercial free, uncensored viewing.
As for me I can get the digital quality I want from cd's and the newer
24bit digital audio from DVD's and for a whole lot less than what it
costs to buy the XM hardware and pay the monthly fees.
(For what one pays for the crap that they call cable service nowadays
I can rent a ton of movies at my local video store.(when I cancelled
cable I was paying over 70 bucks a month just to get the 1 or 2 movie
they'd run. Renting I get the half dozen or so movies every month from
my local video store, get them in DVD which is better quality, and pay
less than 15 buck.)
Subscribing to ANY entertainment service today is a terrible waste of
money.
J
James Sweet
Guest
"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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cares if XM radio is stupid, some people like it, some people will pay for
it, I hate commercials enough that I rarely ever listen to FM, I buy CD's
instead, which in the end probably cost me as much as an XM subscription,
but I can choose what to listen to and when. It's all a matter of opinion
and has *nothing* to do with electronic repair.
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Ok let's see, all caps, blanket opinion statement, can we say troll? WhoOn Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:23:47 -0500, SEVEN SEVILLE
johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote:
WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO
FM FOR FREE?
True, the only selling points of XM are , no commercials and digital
quality.
The commercial free aspect will go away once they've gotten enough
subscribers hooked on this new medium. If you don't believe that just
look at cable television. We can all remember when it was completely
free of commercial, after all that's what the subscribers payed for,
commercial free, uncensored viewing.
As for me I can get the digital quality I want from cd's and the newer
24bit digital audio from DVD's and for a whole lot less than what it
costs to buy the XM hardware and pay the monthly fees.
(For what one pays for the crap that they call cable service nowadays
I can rent a ton of movies at my local video store.(when I cancelled
cable I was paying over 70 bucks a month just to get the 1 or 2 movie
they'd run. Renting I get the half dozen or so movies every month from
my local video store, get them in DVD which is better quality, and pay
less than 15 buck.)
Subscribing to ANY entertainment service today is a terrible waste of
money.
cares if XM radio is stupid, some people like it, some people will pay for
it, I hate commercials enough that I rarely ever listen to FM, I buy CD's
instead, which in the end probably cost me as much as an XM subscription,
but I can choose what to listen to and when. It's all a matter of opinion
and has *nothing* to do with electronic repair.
A
Alan Varpartar
Guest
SEVEN SEVILLE <johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote in
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for free?
news:200401240423.XAA03751@orion.besthost1.com:
Why would people buy bottled water when they can just drink out of the johnWHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN
TO FM FOR FREE?
for free?
M
mycost
Guest
I'd certainly expect that "old school geezer" sentiment in this newsgroup...
"SEVEN SEVILLE" <johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote in message
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"SEVEN SEVILLE" <johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote in message
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WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO
FM FOR FREE?
Guest
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:37:52 GMT, "William R. Walsh"
<newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com> wrote:
Too bad, it's not truly commercial free anymore. Just like cable was
supposed to be commercial free, they slowly added them back in.
-Chris
<newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com> wrote:
It took you this long to come up with a halfway good point?
Seriously, some folks like the lack of commercials. Me? I'll just listen to
FM -- it doesn't cost anything and there's a fair guarantee that a radio
that will play it can be found easily and right away.
TV and radio (even the premium offerings) just don't seem worth paying for
to me.
William
Too bad, it's not truly commercial free anymore. Just like cable was
supposed to be commercial free, they slowly added them back in.
-Chris
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BFriedl
Guest
Not true! Starting Feb 1, 2004, all music channels will be 100%Too bad, it's not truly commercial free anymore. Just like cable was
supposed to be commercial free, they slowly added them back in.
commercial free. Thats something like 70 channels, and starting March 1,
2004, they are adding instant traffic update channels for select
markets. 1 million people already have and enjoy XM satellite
radio....you should too!
--
BFriedl
A+ Certified Technician
AIM: UACybercat
** Bear Down Arizona! **
******* Go Cats! *******
K
Ken G.
Guest
Well........ probably because your typical FM dial has nothing but crap
on it and commercials that consist of local car ads repeating every 10
minutes .
I dont have XM yet but have talked to people who do & if at least some
of the music is good and commercial free i`m in its only 10$ a month i
guess .. just pay the 120$ and listen for 1 year .
on it and commercials that consist of local car ads repeating every 10
minutes .
I dont have XM yet but have talked to people who do & if at least some
of the music is good and commercial free i`m in its only 10$ a month i
guess .. just pay the 120$ and listen for 1 year .
G
gothika
Guest
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:03:58 -0700 (MST), goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
wrote:
wrote:
Don't forget the 200-300 bucks for the XM hardware.Well........ probably because your typical FM dial has nothing but crap
on it and commercials that consist of local car ads repeating every 10
minutes .
I dont have XM yet but have talked to people who do & if at least some
of the music is good and commercial free i`m in its only 10$ a month i
guess .. just pay the 120$ and listen for 1 year .
G
gothika
Guest
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:27:39 -0700, BFriedl <junk-remove-@bfriedl.com>
wrote:
PLEASE! trot that line of bull somewhere else!
As soon as they've maxed the market out on XM hardware sales and
realized all the subscribers they're going to realize they'll start
seeking additional revenues from advertisers.
I have a friend who works in marketing for the Delphi radio systems
and they're already drawing up marketing strategies to go after
potential sponsors.
Just look at the "mess" called cable television.
We the consumers pay throught the nose for cable service just to have
the cable services turn around and swamp our programmes with
commercial interuptions and late at night abdicate their channels
completely to info-mercial crapola.
"We" pay for the basic costs, covering the expense of purchasing the
program materials/movies that they air(plus a tidy profit as well)
then they turn around and clean up by charging premium rates for
advertising slots.
wrote:
PLEASE! trot that line of bull somewhere else!
As soon as they've maxed the market out on XM hardware sales and
realized all the subscribers they're going to realize they'll start
seeking additional revenues from advertisers.
I have a friend who works in marketing for the Delphi radio systems
and they're already drawing up marketing strategies to go after
potential sponsors.
Just look at the "mess" called cable television.
We the consumers pay throught the nose for cable service just to have
the cable services turn around and swamp our programmes with
commercial interuptions and late at night abdicate their channels
completely to info-mercial crapola.
"We" pay for the basic costs, covering the expense of purchasing the
program materials/movies that they air(plus a tidy profit as well)
then they turn around and clean up by charging premium rates for
advertising slots.
Too bad, it's not truly commercial free anymore. Just like cable was
supposed to be commercial free, they slowly added them back in.
Not true! Starting Feb 1, 2004, all music channels will be 100%
commercial free. Thats something like 70 channels, and starting March 1,
2004, they are adding instant traffic update channels for select
markets. 1 million people already have and enjoy XM satellite
radio....you should too!
G
gothika
Guest
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:14:05 GMT, "mycost" <mycost@tables.com> wrote:
Before the advent of CD players for cars I had a cassette deck with
DBX. Now I have a changer in the trunk.
Radios are for public emergency brodcasts, traffic updates and not
much more.
Sattelite radio is just another "high tech" scam to get big bucks from
foolish consumers.
else decide what I'm going to listen to and when, not likely.I'd certainly expect that "old school geezer" sentiment in this newsgroup...
Not "old school geezer" just that we know a scam when it comes along.
For my listening preference I never even liked radio, having someone
Before the advent of CD players for cars I had a cassette deck with
DBX. Now I have a changer in the trunk.
Radios are for public emergency brodcasts, traffic updates and not
much more.
Sattelite radio is just another "high tech" scam to get big bucks from
foolish consumers.
"SEVEN SEVILLE" <johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote in message
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WHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO
FM FOR FREE?
J
James Sweet
Guest
"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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a pretty clear message.
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So when they start flooding it with commercials quit subscribing, that sendsOn Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:27:39 -0700, BFriedl <junk-remove-@bfriedl.com
wrote:
PLEASE! trot that line of bull somewhere else!
As soon as they've maxed the market out on XM hardware sales and
realized all the subscribers they're going to realize they'll start
seeking additional revenues from advertisers.
I have a friend who works in marketing for the Delphi radio systems
and they're already drawing up marketing strategies to go after
potential sponsors.
a pretty clear message.
K
Ken G.
Guest
Someone said ...``Dont forget the equipment costs 200$``
Yes that is pocket change to me no big deal .
Then someone said ... They will start adding commercials later .
Yes probably so .. then we can just stop paying if its 100% commercial .
Then someone else said . Just stop useing / paying if they add
commercials & that will send a message .
The problem i see with that is the one i see today in public places
with radios playing .. most people just let the commercials blare and
ignore them or sing along with then ( sad but true ) most people i know
like the repeated 15 trash songs a radio station plays these days all
day long .
In our area small town in Idaho we dont hear very much new popular music
and its filled with loud local commercials that repeat way to often .
The songs are old and rarely updated . The stations that play the same
format all play the same old songs but with different commercials .
If you call the station or meet them out on live location and comment on
this they simply get mad and show their teeth & walk off .
Even with some commercials XM may still be good for this area so we can
hear some new music and more choices .....some of us want to hear
somethng else besides Niel Diamond , 90`s rock and bad country .
Yes that is pocket change to me no big deal .
Then someone said ... They will start adding commercials later .
Yes probably so .. then we can just stop paying if its 100% commercial .
Then someone else said . Just stop useing / paying if they add
commercials & that will send a message .
The problem i see with that is the one i see today in public places
with radios playing .. most people just let the commercials blare and
ignore them or sing along with then ( sad but true ) most people i know
like the repeated 15 trash songs a radio station plays these days all
day long .
In our area small town in Idaho we dont hear very much new popular music
and its filled with loud local commercials that repeat way to often .
The songs are old and rarely updated . The stations that play the same
format all play the same old songs but with different commercials .
If you call the station or meet them out on live location and comment on
this they simply get mad and show their teeth & walk off .
Even with some commercials XM may still be good for this area so we can
hear some new music and more choices .....some of us want to hear
somethng else besides Niel Diamond , 90`s rock and bad country .
J
Jeff Strieble
Guest
SEVEN SEVILLE <johnsucks@radioshacksucks.com> wrote in message news:<200401240423.XAA03751@orion.besthost1.com>...
quality of programming on the FM radio stations in my area
(northeastern Ohio, between Cleveland and Ashtabula near Lake Erie)
leaves a lot to be desired--nearly every station on the dial plays
rock or some crazy variation of it, and the commercials (often six or
more in a row) are very annoying. However, my digital cable TV service
has some 30 channels of commercial-free CD-quality music. When I get
tired of listening to regular FM radio, I just put my cable box on one
of the digital-music channels and route it through my stereo. Channel
427 is the easy-listening music channel on Comcast here, and is the
one I listen to the most since getting digital cable last year. The
sound quality is great, if you have a good stereo installation (mine
is an Aiwa bookshelf unit, AM/FM/cassette/CD, 240 watts, 3-way
speakers with powered subwoofers). Granted, this won't give you music
in your car as will satellite radio; but it's good for casual
listening at home, and the reception is unaffected by weather or
atmospheric disturbances (as satellite radio often is).
Jeff Strieble, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net)
Fairport Harbor, Ohio
I don't have XM, Delphi or Sirius satellite radio; however, theWHO IN THE FUCK IS GOING TO PAY FOR XM RADIO WHEN PPL CAN JUST LISTEN TO FM FOR FREE?
quality of programming on the FM radio stations in my area
(northeastern Ohio, between Cleveland and Ashtabula near Lake Erie)
leaves a lot to be desired--nearly every station on the dial plays
rock or some crazy variation of it, and the commercials (often six or
more in a row) are very annoying. However, my digital cable TV service
has some 30 channels of commercial-free CD-quality music. When I get
tired of listening to regular FM radio, I just put my cable box on one
of the digital-music channels and route it through my stereo. Channel
427 is the easy-listening music channel on Comcast here, and is the
one I listen to the most since getting digital cable last year. The
sound quality is great, if you have a good stereo installation (mine
is an Aiwa bookshelf unit, AM/FM/cassette/CD, 240 watts, 3-way
speakers with powered subwoofers). Granted, this won't give you music
in your car as will satellite radio; but it's good for casual
listening at home, and the reception is unaffected by weather or
atmospheric disturbances (as satellite radio often is).
Jeff Strieble, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net)
Fairport Harbor, Ohio
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gothika
Guest
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:07:41 GMT, "James Sweet"
<jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote:
thrive on.
200+ bucks is a rip off, to just "not" use it when they load up on
commercials.
IMHO it all the wastefull "money bags" types that make the retail
market the ruin it is.
After all if the vast majority of consumers exercised wisdom and
refused to buy in to scam market concepts then we wouldn't have the
bottom feeders we have today who would rather go out of their way to
work a crooked deal rather than an honest one.
And oh, by the way I can make you a great deal on an "Abdominizer"
belt. Guaranteed to work, except when it doesn't!
<jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote:
WAIT, stupid me! You're just the witless consumer who these parasites"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:27:39 -0700, BFriedl <junk-remove-@bfriedl.com
wrote:
PLEASE! trot that line of bull somewhere else!
As soon as they've maxed the market out on XM hardware sales and
realized all the subscribers they're going to realize they'll start
seeking additional revenues from advertisers.
I have a friend who works in marketing for the Delphi radio systems
and they're already drawing up marketing strategies to go after
potential sponsors.
So when they start flooding it with commercials quit subscribing, that sends
a pretty clear message.
Yet you've WASTED you money!
thrive on.
200+ bucks is a rip off, to just "not" use it when they load up on
commercials.
IMHO it all the wastefull "money bags" types that make the retail
market the ruin it is.
After all if the vast majority of consumers exercised wisdom and
refused to buy in to scam market concepts then we wouldn't have the
bottom feeders we have today who would rather go out of their way to
work a crooked deal rather than an honest one.
And oh, by the way I can make you a great deal on an "Abdominizer"
belt. Guaranteed to work, except when it doesn't!
J
James Sweet
Guest
"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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pleased with the service though. If they enjoy it and think it's worth the
money they can get it and I won't complain. I personally "waste" my money on
CD's, but I enjoy listening and don't have a shortage of money so why not?
Why would anyone care what someone else spends their money on?
Now let's get back to repair discussions, speaking of waste, this discussion
seems like a big waste of time, something I find more valuable than money.
news:287b10d949vtkvdt9g4fq08ksngp48p7jc@4ax.com...
I didn't waste any money, I don't subscribe, I know people who do and areOn Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:07:41 GMT, "James Sweet"
jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote:
"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:27:39 -0700, BFriedl <junk-remove-@bfriedl.com
wrote:
PLEASE! trot that line of bull somewhere else!
As soon as they've maxed the market out on XM hardware sales and
realized all the subscribers they're going to realize they'll start
seeking additional revenues from advertisers.
I have a friend who works in marketing for the Delphi radio systems
and they're already drawing up marketing strategies to go after
potential sponsors.
So when they start flooding it with commercials quit subscribing, that
sends
a pretty clear message.
Yet you've WASTED you money!
WAIT, stupid me! You're just the witless consumer who these parasites
thrive on.
200+ bucks is a rip off, to just "not" use it when they load up on
commercials.
pleased with the service though. If they enjoy it and think it's worth the
money they can get it and I won't complain. I personally "waste" my money on
CD's, but I enjoy listening and don't have a shortage of money so why not?
Why would anyone care what someone else spends their money on?
Now let's get back to repair discussions, speaking of waste, this discussion
seems like a big waste of time, something I find more valuable than money.
G
gothika
Guest
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:00:35 GMT, "James Sweet"
<jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote:
market is stupid and wasteful in their spending habits then those in
marketing will tailor their tactics to maximize exploitation of that
market, hence making ALL consumers suffer including those who exercise
common sense and forethought.
If one doesn't take any interest in the management of their society
they shouldn't be there, after all this is a self governed, self
regulated society.(at least in theory.)
All that is required for evil to prevail is for enough good men to do
absolutely nothing.
How do you think the electronic goods market is in such a sorry state
today? Why every electronic appliance is such crap?
Because apathetic consumers but a product and when it dies right away
just shrug their shoulders, say "oh well" and toss it. Then go back
and buy another.
Or when they suscribe to a service, let's say cable televison, and
when the providers crap it up by running the same four shows
repeatedly all day long and flood it with infomercials people like you
just wimp out and do nothing.
When the appropriate response is to kick a 2X4 up their ass and cancel
their service.(I do, having not paid for a minute of cable service for
years.)
Ditto for faulty products, I always make the manufacturer honor their
warranties.(I'm sure my name is high up on some sht list somewhere,
but SO WHAT, last time I checked they're here to SERVE the consumer.
Not vise-versa.)
throwing some of that money you'd waste on something useful.
try the Christian Children's fund, money better spent than on some
damn XM radio.
>
<jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote:
strategies and goods/services for ALL consumers. i.e. if the retail"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:07:41 GMT, "James Sweet"
jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote:
"gothika" <gothika@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:27:39 -0700, BFriedl <junk-remove-@bfriedl.com
wrote:
PLEASE! trot that line of bull somewhere else!
As soon as they've maxed the market out on XM hardware sales and
realized all the subscribers they're going to realize they'll start
seeking additional revenues from advertisers.
I have a friend who works in marketing for the Delphi radio systems
and they're already drawing up marketing strategies to go after
potential sponsors.
So when they start flooding it with commercials quit subscribing, that
sends
a pretty clear message.
Yet you've WASTED you money!
WAIT, stupid me! You're just the witless consumer who these parasites
thrive on.
200+ bucks is a rip off, to just "not" use it when they load up on
commercials.
I didn't waste any money, I don't subscribe, I know people who do and are
pleased with the service though. If they enjoy it and think it's worth the
money they can get it and I won't complain. I personally "waste" my money on
CD's, but I enjoy listening and don't have a shortage of money so why not?
Why would anyone care what someone else spends their money on?
Because overall spening by the consumer market determines market
market is stupid and wasteful in their spending habits then those in
marketing will tailor their tactics to maximize exploitation of that
market, hence making ALL consumers suffer including those who exercise
common sense and forethought.
If one doesn't take any interest in the management of their society
they shouldn't be there, after all this is a self governed, self
regulated society.(at least in theory.)
All that is required for evil to prevail is for enough good men to do
absolutely nothing.
How do you think the electronic goods market is in such a sorry state
today? Why every electronic appliance is such crap?
Because apathetic consumers but a product and when it dies right away
just shrug their shoulders, say "oh well" and toss it. Then go back
and buy another.
Or when they suscribe to a service, let's say cable televison, and
when the providers crap it up by running the same four shows
repeatedly all day long and flood it with infomercials people like you
just wimp out and do nothing.
When the appropriate response is to kick a 2X4 up their ass and cancel
their service.(I do, having not paid for a minute of cable service for
years.)
Ditto for faulty products, I always make the manufacturer honor their
warranties.(I'm sure my name is high up on some sht list somewhere,
but SO WHAT, last time I checked they're here to SERVE the consumer.
Not vise-versa.)
struggling to survive the economic destruction of our economy tryNow let's get back to repair discussions, speaking of waste, this discussion
seems like a big waste of time, something I find more valuable than money.
Since you find money so trivial in these times when so many are
throwing some of that money you'd waste on something useful.
try the Christian Children's fund, money better spent than on some
damn XM radio.
>
J
James Sweet
Guest
It's still not my problem, I don't buy cheap crap, I tell other people notBecause overall spening by the consumer market determines market
strategies and goods/services for ALL consumers. i.e. if the retail
market is stupid and wasteful in their spending habits then those in
marketing will tailor their tactics to maximize exploitation of that
market, hence making ALL consumers suffer including those who exercise
common sense and forethought.
If one doesn't take any interest in the management of their society
they shouldn't be there, after all this is a self governed, self
regulated society.(at least in theory.)
All that is required for evil to prevail is for enough good men to do
absolutely nothing.
How do you think the electronic goods market is in such a sorry state
today? Why every electronic appliance is such crap?
Because apathetic consumers but a product and when it dies right away
just shrug their shoulders, say "oh well" and toss it. Then go back
and buy another.
Or when they suscribe to a service, let's say cable televison, and
when the providers crap it up by running the same four shows
repeatedly all day long and flood it with infomercials people like you
just wimp out and do nothing.
When the appropriate response is to kick a 2X4 up their ass and cancel
their service.(I do, having not paid for a minute of cable service for
years.)
Ditto for faulty products, I always make the manufacturer honor their
warranties.(I'm sure my name is high up on some sht list somewhere,
but SO WHAT, last time I checked they're here to SERVE the consumer.
Not vise-versa.)
to buy cheap crap, bitching about something on an off topic group on the
usenet is not a solution. How much time did you waste writing up that whole
thing? You could be out for a cause that really matters.
Screw that, perhaps if the word "christian" wasn't tacked on there I'd beNow let's get back to repair discussions, speaking of waste, this
discussion
seems like a big waste of time, something I find more valuable than
money.
Since you find money so trivial in these times when so many are
struggling to survive the economic destruction of our economy try
throwing some of that money you'd waste on something useful.
try the Christian Children's fund, money better spent than on some
damn XM radio.
willing to support it, I believe religious organizations are evil in
themselves, almost like brainwashing with people mindlessly following. I'm
not saying there's no god, I'm not saying religion is bad in itself, but I
don't need someone else imposing their morals and beliefs on me.