WTB: metal mouse pad for Mouse Systems optical mouse

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Franc Zabkar

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I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
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G'day Frank
Does it have to be metal ?
I thought that a 'grainy' surface was all ya need for the the opticals ?

--
Regards ........... Rheilly Phoull
 
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:05:45 +0800, "Rheilly Phoull"
<Rheilly@bigpong.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

G'day Frank
Does it have to be metal ?
I thought that a 'grainy' surface was all ya need for the the opticals ?
Click to expand...
These old mice appear to only work with the original pad. I have
another optical mouse (Quick) with a different kind of [plastic] pad,
but it doesn't work. I don't know why, but I suspect it's because the
original pad has a much finer dot pitch.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
 
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:05:45 +0800, "Rheilly Phoull"
Rheilly@bigpong.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:d6smn01lhbeumkeot1bdrib0l8fc65q5hk@4ax.com...
I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a
KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the
PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

G'day Frank
Does it have to be metal ?
I thought that a 'grainy' surface was all ya need for the the
opticals ?

These old mice appear to only work with the original pad. I have
another optical mouse (Quick) with a different kind of [plastic] pad,
but it doesn't work. I don't know why, but I suspect it's because the
original pad has a much finer dot pitch.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Can't remember how different they were but would it not be easier to get
Click to expand...
a serial mouse do do your job?
There must be dozens of them nesting in dark corners of garages.
I recently moved house so I don't think I have any but I am sure I could
find one without too much trouble.
--
John G

Wot's Your Real Problem?
 
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:16:39 +1000, "John G"
<Greentest@ozemail.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:05:45 +0800, "Rheilly Phoull"
Rheilly@bigpong.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:d6smn01lhbeumkeot1bdrib0l8fc65q5hk@4ax.com...
I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a
KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the
PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

G'day Frank
Does it have to be metal ?
I thought that a 'grainy' surface was all ya need for the the
opticals ?

These old mice appear to only work with the original pad. I have
another optical mouse (Quick) with a different kind of [plastic] pad,
but it doesn't work. I don't know why, but I suspect it's because the
original pad has a much finer dot pitch.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Can't remember how different they were but would it not be easier to get
a serial mouse do do your job?
There must be dozens of them nesting in dark corners of garages.
I recently moved house so I don't think I have any but I am sure I could
find one without too much trouble.
Click to expand...
I've looked, but I can't find a serial *optical* mouse. If you have
one to sell, I'm interested.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
 
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:16:39 +1000, "John G"
Greentest@ozemail.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:722on0tpgi188qpnefstpvf25d7695hknt@4ax.com...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:05:45 +0800, "Rheilly Phoull"
Rheilly@bigpong.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:d6smn01lhbeumkeot1bdrib0l8fc65q5hk@4ax.com...
I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out
metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a
KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the
PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine
to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

G'day Frank
Does it have to be metal ?
I thought that a 'grainy' surface was all ya need for the the
opticals ?

These old mice appear to only work with the original pad. I have
another optical mouse (Quick) with a different kind of [plastic]
pad,
but it doesn't work. I don't know why, but I suspect it's because
the
original pad has a much finer dot pitch.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Can't remember how different they were but would it not be easier to
get
a serial mouse do do your job?
There must be dozens of them nesting in dark corners of garages.
I recently moved house so I don't think I have any but I am sure I
could
find one without too much trouble.

I've looked, but I can't find a serial *optical* mouse. If you have
one to sell, I'm interested.


- Franc Zabkar
Click to expand...
Sorry I got it a bit wrong. Of course the optical mouse uses the serial
port.

Then I guess the real question is:- What is wrong with a normal ball
mouse of which there must be plenty around.
--
John G

Wot's Your Real Problem?
 
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:11:14 +1000, "John G"
<Greentest@ozemail.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Then I guess the real question is:- What is wrong with a normal ball
mouse of which there must be plenty around.
Click to expand...
I've had the optical mouse for over ten years. During that time I
would have thrown dozens of ball mice against the wall. I'd sooner buy
a TV without a remote than go back to a mechanical rodent.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
 
I agree optical is the only way to scurry when it comes to mice.

What about buyng a usb one and then using a usb - RS232 adapter.

Heaps of these are coming onto the market now.

Places like www.dontronics.com sell them based on the FDTI chips.

Other vendors too.


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:d6smn01lhbeumkeot1bdrib0l8fc65q5hk@4ax.com...
I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
Click to expand...
 
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:etsqn057lb6rteds8dt81p2brpp6mejqo7@4ax.com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:11:14 +1000, "John G"
Greentest@ozemail.com.au> put finger to keyboard and composed:

Then I guess the real question is:- What is wrong with a normal ball
mouse of which there must be plenty around.

I've had the optical mouse for over ten years. During that time I
would have thrown dozens of ball mice against the wall. I'd sooner buy
a TV without a remote than go back to a mechanical rodent.


- Franc Zabkar
Click to expand...
Fair enough, we stll need to have room for some personal preference in
this frenetic world.
--
John G

Wot's Your Real Problem?
 
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:32:06 +1000, "Dingo" <nsjunkstuff@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

I agree optical is the only way to scurry when it comes to mice.

What about buyng a usb one and then using a usb - RS232 adapter.
Click to expand...
Are you sure that you can adapt USB devices to an RS232 port? I know
you can go the other way, but USB to RS232 doesn't make sense when you
consider the differences in data rates. Furthermore, any active device
connected to the RS232 port would need to be signal powered, unless it
has its own power supply.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
 
"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:32:06 +1000, "Dingo" <nsjunkstuff@hotmail.com
put finger to keyboard and composed:

I agree optical is the only way to scurry when it comes to mice.

What about buyng a usb one and then using a usb - RS232 adapter.

Are you sure that you can adapt USB devices to an RS232 port? I know
you can go the other way, but USB to RS232 doesn't make sense when you
consider the differences in data rates. Furthermore, any active device
connected to the RS232 port would need to be signal powered, unless it
has its own power supply.
Click to expand...
Franc is right, apart from power and data rates there can only be one USB
host on a bus and not two slaves (without the host). The host system
controls overall operation of the USB bus and trying to connect a USB mouse
to a USB to RS-232 converter is trying to connect two slave devices
together. Apart from low-level issues the device would have no way to know
that USB packets received from the mouse should be forwarded to the RS232
port and vice-versa.

The protocols used between the two devices wouldn't be compatible either, so
even if someone designed an RS232 converter that could act as a host device
and forward data it wouldn't work unless the system receiving the RS232 data
had an appropriate driver to translate.


Regards,

Peter Johnson, CommLinx Solutions
http://www.commlinx.com.au/
 
Hi Frank,

I have a metal mouse pad from an old Sun Spark optical mouse you can have
to try.


Gaz


"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:d6smn01lhbeumkeot1bdrib0l8fc65q5hk@4ax.com...
I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out metal
mouse pad for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411.
Alternatively, does anyone know where I can buy a serial optical
mouse?

I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a KVM
switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the PCs
is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
support my device programmer.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
Click to expand...
 
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