WTB:legal or illegal

[JURB6006]

Hi all;

Necessity being the Mother of invention, I thought I'd mention this:

I'm the one who intends to send a couple people a disks of IC and some
transistor datasheets. I've found that if you got the pinout of an IC you can
sometimes troubleshoot without a print.

Been to a few websites and basically been saving files. The disk should be
ready soon, all I need to do now is compile all the new stuff I've DLed at the
shop. This disk is just a gift to a few people in here who've helped me out
(you know who you are). I'll be looking for a few addresses in the near future.


That's not the root subject of this post though. What's happening is that seems
to be getting harder and harder to get these things online.

What I've assembled isn't bad, but it is woefully incomplete. I would like to
buy a comprehensive set of datasheets and I almost don't care what it costs.
Basically the ICs used in consumer electronics, and maybe automotive as well.
Didn't the engineers have all this stuff ? Where did THEY get it ? Does it go
into the shredder as soon as they're done or what ?

I'm relatively sure most of these guys don't deal with dead trees for this sort
of thing, why can't I have that data ? Every time I find something on the web
that looks good, it is laden with all kinds of useless data and doesn't
completely cover what I need.

If something really fills the bill here, even if it cost $1000 and was
copyguarded I'd consider it. (I said consider it)

Basically everything from about 15 years ago to about last year. For the new
new stuff I'll go back to the semiconductor sales websites of the major
manufacturers periodically, but there are things that won't get me. I got
pinouts and specs for all kinds of things, but only a certain portion of that
is useful to me. The ones that I specifically downloaded for a certain job are
the most useful in TV repair.

If anyone knows that what I want exists and where to get it I'd really like to
hear about it.

Thanks for your time

JURB

 

[El Meda]

What I've assembled isn't bad, but it is woefully incomplete. I would like to
buy a comprehensive set of datasheets and I almost don't care what it costs.
Basically the ICs used in consumer electronics, and maybe automotive as well.
Didn't the engineers have all this stuff ? Where did THEY get it ? Does it go
into the shredder as soon as they're done or what ?

Here is the biggest Datasheet database in the web (CAPS). It's not
cheap:

http://www.freetradezone.com/index_body.jsp
---
Ing. Remberto Gomez-Meda <gomerem@hotmail.com>
http://ingemeda.tripod.com/
INGE - Ingenieria Electronica.
Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico.

 

[gothika]

On 02 Apr 2004 02:17:21 GMT, jurb6006@aol.com (JURB6006) wrote:

Hi all;

Necessity being the Mother of invention, I thought I'd mention this:

I'm the one who intends to send a couple people a disks of IC and some
transistor datasheets. I've found that if you got the pinout of an IC you can
sometimes troubleshoot without a print.

Been to a few websites and basically been saving files. The disk should be
ready soon, all I need to do now is compile all the new stuff I've DLed at the
shop. This disk is just a gift to a few people in here who've helped me out
(you know who you are). I'll be looking for a few addresses in the near future.


That's not the root subject of this post though. What's happening is that seems
to be getting harder and harder to get these things online.

What I've assembled isn't bad, but it is woefully incomplete. I would like to
buy a comprehensive set of datasheets and I almost don't care what it costs.
Basically the ICs used in consumer electronics, and maybe automotive as well.
Didn't the engineers have all this stuff ? Where did THEY get it ? Does it go
into the shredder as soon as they're done or what ?

I'm relatively sure most of these guys don't deal with dead trees for this sort
of thing, why can't I have that data ? Every time I find something on the web
that looks good, it is laden with all kinds of useless data and doesn't
completely cover what I need.

If something really fills the bill here, even if it cost $1000 and was
copyguarded I'd consider it. (I said consider it)

Basically everything from about 15 years ago to about last year. For the new
new stuff I'll go back to the semiconductor sales websites of the major
manufacturers periodically, but there are things that won't get me. I got
pinouts and specs for all kinds of things, but only a certain portion of that
is useful to me. The ones that I specifically downloaded for a certain job are
the most useful in TV repair.

If anyone knows that what I want exists and where to get it I'd really like to
hear about it.

Thanks for your time

JURB

Restricting information is the way they keep control.
Manufacturers don't want consumers to have free access to vital
information, htey want you coming back to them for repair etc..
Repair techs that run liscensed shops have to pay through the nose for
repair manuals/schematics so seldom are they inclined to share it.
The prevalent attitude is "If I had to go through the trouble and
expense to get an education in this field then the cost of setting up
my own shop and paying large sums for the repair manuals why should I
share it with the guy on the street?"
I.E. do it like I did, the hard way.
Look at the historical picture of how they restrict the information
about basic knowledge.
Once apon a time all public libraries carried a complete set of Audels
engineering manuals. If one had the desire and time allone had to do
to get an education in BE&E was go to a public library and spend long
hours in the reference section.
Audels manuals were yanked years ago, can't have just anybody learning
how to service their own appliances.
The same goes for the internet. Once it's recognized as a threat to
the restriction of information efforts will be made to remove or
restrict educational data on the net.(One good thing about the net is
that due to it's dynamics it'll be a lot harder to stop the flow of
information.)
I've noticed in the last couple of years the number of sites that have
essential information have dwindled.
The internet is becoming more and more a dry bed inre educational
info.
That said I'm sure that the info you're looking for is out there
somewhere, you'll just have to find someone who'll point you to the
appropriate url.