WTB: FM broadcast band YAGI receiving antenna

[Ian]

G'day!

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that stocks yagi's
specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

I am receiving 93.5 3BO (Bendigo) - however, I have a lot of crosstalk with
another local station on the same freq, and would like to try out a yagi to
see if it solves the problem....

CHEERS!!!!
Ian.

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

"Ian" <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that
stocks yagi's
specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

**** Radio Parts have two FM band Yagis listed, high and low
gain versions.


Brian Goldsmith.

 

[Mike Harding]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:41:21 +1000, "Ian"
<bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote:

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that stocks yagi's
specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

I am receiving 93.5 3BO (Bendigo) - however, I have a lot of crosstalk with
another local station on the same freq, and would like to try out a yagi to
see if it solves the problem....

A VHF TV one might be good enough for you? I think
Dick Smith sell them. Of course a naughty person might
buy one from DSE, try it to see if it does the job and, if
not, return it for a refund under their 7 day policy

They are not too difficult to make, take a look at
http://www.ac6v.com/antprojects.htm

and/or try reposting this question to:
aus.radio.amateur.misc

Mike Harding

 

[Phil Allison]

"Ian" <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote in message
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G'day!

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that stocks yagi's
specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

I am receiving 93.5 3BO (Bendigo) - however, I have a lot of crosstalk
with
another local station on the same freq, and would like to try out a yagi
to
see if it solves the problem....

** That is a tall order and depends on the relative directions of the two
transmitters to you.

Only if the local one were close to 180 degrees compared to the Bendigo
one will you likely succeed.

The FM ( presumably lowish power) signal from Bendigo must be very
weak and noisy.

Do you live in Melbourne?


.............. Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Ian <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that stocks
yagi's specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

I am receiving 93.5 3BO (Bendigo) - however, I have a lot
of crosstalk with another local station on the same freq,
and would like to try out a yagi to see if it solves the problem....

That is a tall order and depends on the relative
directions of the two transmitters to you.

Only if the local one were close to 180 degrees
compared to the Bendigo one will you likely succeed.

Thats not correct with FM. The capture effect means that
all you have to do is to get one signal well above the other
and the capture effect with FM will see the weak one gone.

The FM ( presumably lowish power) signal
from Bendigo must be very weak and noisy.

Yeah, pretty forlorn prospects of getting
a decent reliable signal in Melburg.

Do you live in Melbourne?

Presumably, otherwise they wouldnt be both on the same freq.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Ian <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that stocks
yagi's specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

I am receiving 93.5 3BO (Bendigo) - however, I have a lot
of crosstalk with another local station on the same freq,
and would like to try out a yagi to see if it solves the problem....

That is a tall order and depends on the relative
directions of the two transmitters to you.

Only if the local one were close to 180 degrees
compared to the Bendigo one will you likely succeed.


Thats not correct with FM.

** More Robot Bullshit.



The capture effect means that

all you have to do is to get one signal well above the other
and the capture effect with FM will see the weak one gone.

** That is the whole problem - getting the long distance signal to exceed
the local one.

You will need the *full* back to front ratio of a good Yagi to stand a
chance in this case.




........... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Ian <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote

Just wondering if there is anywhere local (Melbourne) that stocks
yagi's specifically for the FM broadcast band (88-108MHz) ???

I am receiving 93.5 3BO (Bendigo) - however, I have a lot
of crosstalk with another local station on the same freq,
and would like to try out a yagi to see if it solves the problem....

That is a tall order and depends on the relative
directions of the two transmitters to you.

Only if the local one were close to 180 degrees
compared to the Bendigo one will you likely succeed.

Thats not correct with FM.

More Robot Bullshit.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of your
predicament better than that pathetic effort, Allison.

The capture effect means that all you have to do
is to get one signal well above the other and the
capture effect with FM will see the weak one gone.

That is the whole problem - getting the
long distance signal to exceed the local one.

Pity about your utterly mindless 180 degree bullshit.

You will need the *full* back to front ratio of
a good Yagi to stand a chance in this case.

More drivel.

** I can hear the Robot's rusty bolts rattling ....



..... Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

Some pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist claiming to be
Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> desperately
attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
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and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

No wonder its completely unemployable.

 

[Ian]

G'day guys!

Thanks for the input (well.....most of it anyway!! haha)

Yes, i live in melbourne, and the signal is not too bad.......I do receive
it in FM stereo....with a fair amount of crackle.
I have a carver tx-11a which has an excellent FM circuit design and caters
for multipath rejection, so it is very selective.....also on the AM band
too!

The time of night that I want to listen is between 9pm to midnight - when
Stan Zemanek is on (here comes the flaming...)

At that time of night, the singal is better in any case due to less noise
from other transmitting devices.

I will give radio parts a try. thanks for that!


While I am at it, do you think it would be possible to receive 2UE with a
sayyyy....4-5 foot loop antenna design (954 KHz on the AM band....)

I received 2UE about 65km South of Bendigo while driving the other night,
and also 2SM.....just on the car radio antenna

Given the time of night that I want to listen, (9pm till midnight) do you
think this might be a chance??? Anyone tried some AM band DX'ing here??

CHEERS!!!!!

Ian.





"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Some pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist claiming to be
Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> desperately
attempted to bullshit its way out of its predicament in message
news:3f3bfb56$0$10360$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

No wonder its completely unemployable.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Ian" <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote in message
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G'day guys!

Thanks for the input (well.....most of it anyway!! haha)

Yes, i live in melbourne, and the signal is not too bad.......I do receive
it in FM stereo....with a fair amount of crackle.

** 3BB0 FM in Bendigo is a 120 kW commercial - what is your other station on
the same frequency of 93.5 MHZ. ??




......... Phil

 

[Ian]

G'day!

I think I have just found out what the other service is on 93.5......

http://inforadio.com.au/html/vic.html

its the Warragul RPH service that runs from 6am till 11pm.

So hopefully the fron-to-back ratio of a YAGI will help eliminate the other
station....???

CHEERS!!!

Ian.



"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Ian" <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote in message
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G'day guys!

Thanks for the input (well.....most of it anyway!! haha)

Yes, i live in melbourne, and the signal is not too bad.......I do
receive
it in FM stereo....with a fair amount of crackle.



** 3BB0 FM in Bendigo is a 120 kW commercial - what is your other station
on
the same frequency of 93.5 MHZ. ??




......... Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

Ian <bennettsi@optusnet.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote in message
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Yes, i live in melbourne, and the signal is not too bad.......
I do receive it in FM stereo....with a fair amount of crackle.

A decent yagi might be enough to make a real difference
given the two stations/power levels and distances involved.

I have a carver tx-11a which has an excellent FM circuit design and caters
for multipath rejection, so it is very selective.....also on the AM band too!

The time of night that I want to listen is between 9pm to midnight
- when Stan Zemanek is on (here comes the flaming...)

At that time of night, the singal is better in any case
due to less noise from other transmitting devices.

Dunno, its unlikely to be due to that.

I will give radio parts a try. thanks for that!

While I am at it, do you think it would be possible to receive 2UE with a
sayyyy....4-5 foot loop antenna design (954 KHz on the AM band....)

Long distance AM is always a rather fraught thing. Its
unlikely to give you a usable result too often at that distance.

I received 2UE about 65km South of Bendigo while driving
the other night, and also 2SM.....just on the car radio antenna

Yeah, tho it isnt likely to be all that reliable there.

Given the time of night that I want to listen, (9pm till
midnight) do you think this might be a chance???

Its likely to be pretty variable and very prone to lightning effects.

Anyone tried some AM band DX'ing here??

Yeah, there's always a few into that sort of thing.