Will a cellphone work underground?

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Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)
 
elect...@online.com wrote:
Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground.
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** Generally no.


For example, in a cave or tunnel...
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** No reception is normally available.

Some tunnels are are specially wired for mobile phone communication, on motorways and toll roads for example.


Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city?
(If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)
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** They don't.

A walkie talkie will transmit some distance down the sewer to other workers.



.... Phil
 
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)
Click to expand...

Cell phone signals won't make it through very much dirt. Certainly not
six feet of it.

If the cemetery is close to a cell tower you could probably put an
antenna on the tombstone connected to a matching antenna in the casket.
But then you need to charge the batteries, so you need to put some solar
cells on the tombstone as well.

Even then, that's only going to be good for as long as the current
technology isn't superseded, at which point the guy had better call in an
exhumation before his service is canceled.

Frankly, if he really wants to meet his goals, I think he should ask for
a sky burial.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
In article <0ce12bdn618pplash2j7ed3cg302vc68fd@4ax.com>, electron206
@online.com says...
Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)
Click to expand...

Back in the old days when they were not sure if someone actually was
dead, after drinking comotose enabled moonshine, resulting in a
few days of deep sleep and uncertain about the state of the drunk.

They would bury the person in fear of disease, tie a string around
their rist and thread it through the box to above ground where it would
be attached to a bell on a little shepards hook.

They would assign a person for the midnight to listen for any bells,
thus the "GRAVE YARD SHIFT".

If a bell would start to ring, this was indication that the person was
burried alive and thus "A Dead Ringer"!

Now putting this to a cell phone, I suppose one could run a wire in
the same fasion and then you would have a "Dead Caller".

I am glad I could clear up a bit of history for you, that's my
story and I am sticking with it.

Jamie :)
 
On 2015-10-16, M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:
In article <0ce12bdn618pplash2j7ed3cg302vc68fd@4ax.com>, electron206
@online.com says...

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Back in the old days when they were not sure if someone actually was
dead, after drinking comotose enabled moonshine, resulting in a
few days of deep sleep and uncertain about the state of the drunk.

They would bury the person in fear of disease, tie a string around
their rist and thread it through the box to above ground where it would
be attached to a bell on a little shepards hook.

They would assign a person for the midnight to listen for any bells,
thus the "GRAVE YARD SHIFT".

If a bell would start to ring, this was indication that the person was
burried alive and thus "A Dead Ringer"!

Now putting this to a cell phone, I suppose one could run a wire in
the same fasion and then you would have a "Dead Caller".

I am glad I could clear up a bit of history for you, that's my
story and I am sticking with it.

Jamie :)
Click to expand...

Your etymological claims are gravely mistaken, and dead wrong.

--
\_(ツ)_
 
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)
Click to expand...

they don't work in subways

Seems to me they could be made to work in subways, or at least in the
stations, but they haven't seen fit to install the electronics yet...
 
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:25:18 +0000, default wrote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy
said that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot
be buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

they don't work in subways

Seems to me they could be made to work in subways, or at least in the
stations, but they haven't seen fit to install the electronics yet...
Click to expand...

I was doing some work for a client associated with putting cell phone
service into large buildings and subways. But it was in 2008, and their
customers pulled the plug when the shit hit the fan.

--
www.wescottdesign.com
 
In article <mvsi19$rus$1@gonzo.alcatraz>, jasen@xnet.co.nz says...
On 2015-10-16, M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:
In article <0ce12bdn618pplash2j7ed3cg302vc68fd@4ax.com>, electron206
@online.com says...

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Back in the old days when they were not sure if someone actually was
dead, after drinking comotose enabled moonshine, resulting in a
few days of deep sleep and uncertain about the state of the drunk.

They would bury the person in fear of disease, tie a string around
their rist and thread it through the box to above ground where it would
be attached to a bell on a little shepards hook.

They would assign a person for the midnight to listen for any bells,
thus the "GRAVE YARD SHIFT".

If a bell would start to ring, this was indication that the person was
burried alive and thus "A Dead Ringer"!

Now putting this to a cell phone, I suppose one could run a wire in
the same fasion and then you would have a "Dead Caller".

I am glad I could clear up a bit of history for you, that's my
story and I am sticking with it.

Jamie :)

Your etymological claims are gravely mistaken, and dead wrong.
Click to expand...

:)
 
jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
Saved by the bell.
Click to expand...

** A phrase that originated in the world of boxing.

Not too hard to figure.


..... Phil
 
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 22:25:18 +1000, default <default@defaulter.net> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

they don't work in subways

Seems to me they could be made to work in subways, or at least in the
stations, but they haven't seen fit to install the electronics yet...
Click to expand...

subways have steel reinforcement in the concrete thus making a partial of
total Faraday cage (depends on the wavelength)
 
On 10/16/2015 5:15 PM, M Philbrook wrote:
In article <0ce12bdn618pplash2j7ed3cg302vc68fd@4ax.com>, electron206
@online.com says...

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Back in the old days when they were not sure if someone actually was
dead, after drinking comotose enabled moonshine, resulting in a
few days of deep sleep and uncertain about the state of the drunk.

They would bury the person in fear of disease, tie a string around
their rist and thread it through the box to above ground where it would
be attached to a bell on a little shepards hook.

They would assign a person for the midnight to listen for any bells,
thus the "GRAVE YARD SHIFT".

If a bell would start to ring, this was indication that the person was
burried alive and thus "A Dead Ringer"!

Now putting this to a cell phone, I suppose one could run a wire in
the same fasion and then you would have a "Dead Caller".

I am glad I could clear up a bit of history for you, that's my
story and I am sticking with it.

Jamie :)

Here is another explanation.
Click to expand...
 
On 10/16/2015 5:15 PM, M Philbrook wrote:
In article <0ce12bdn618pplash2j7ed3cg302vc68fd@4ax.com>, electron206
@online.com says...

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Back in the old days when they were not sure if someone actually was
dead, after drinking comotose enabled moonshine, resulting in a
few days of deep sleep and uncertain about the state of the drunk.

They would bury the person in fear of disease, tie a string around
their rist and thread it through the box to above ground where it would
be attached to a bell on a little shepards hook.

They would assign a person for the midnight to listen for any bells,
thus the "GRAVE YARD SHIFT".

If a bell would start to ring, this was indication that the person was
burried alive and thus "A Dead Ringer"!

Now putting this to a cell phone, I suppose one could run a wire in
the same fasion and then you would have a "Dead Caller".

I am glad I could clear up a bit of history for you, that's my
story and I am sticking with it.

Jamie :)
Click to expand...
Here is another explanation:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/dead-ringer.html
 
electron206@online.com wrote:
> Well, I dont plan ot be buried with a cellphone,

"Top psychics all agree
That the telephone company
Will have a brand-new service that lets you talk to the dead."

> but I'm now wondering if a cell would work underground.

Around Kansas City, we have several man-made caves in the limestone...
dig a big pit, sell gravel, dig sideways at the bottom of the pit to
make caves, sell gravel, then sell warehouse and factory space. You
can drive a truck into most of them and even a train into a few.

I saw a story in the local paper where an employee at a business in the
caves commented that if he wanted to use his cell phone, he had to take
the stairs, elevator, or truck above ground at lunch time. (The
employers may consider this a feature, not a bug.)

Matt Roberds
 
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:46:21 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:25:18 +0000, default wrote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy
said that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot
be buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

they don't work in subways

Seems to me they could be made to work in subways, or at least in the
stations, but they haven't seen fit to install the electronics yet...

I was doing some work for a client associated with putting cell phone
service into large buildings and subways. But it was in 2008, and their
customers pulled the plug when the shit hit the fan.
Click to expand...

What are the politics involved?

Seems to me that with municipal wifi and phones having the ability to
automatically switch from a cell network to wifi that the celular
carriers and ISPs would be battling it out in congress. (or maybe they
are and it isn't in the news?)
 
On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 1:15:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Cell phone signals won't make it through very much dirt. Certainly not
six feet of it.

If the cemetery is close to a cell tower you could probably put an
antenna on the tombstone connected to a matching antenna in the casket.
But then you need to charge the batteries, so you need to put some solar
cells on the tombstone as well.

Even then, that's only going to be good for as long as the current
technology isn't superseded, at which point the guy had better call in an
exhumation before his service is canceled.

Frankly, if he really wants to meet his goals, I think he should ask for
a sky burial.
Click to expand...

If you are referring to ashes in fireworks shell actually in the industry it is called an aerial burial. Check Crackerjacks 2009 Memorial on YT.
--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
Click to expand...
 
On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 7:25:26 AM UTC-5, default wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy said
that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan ot be
buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would work
underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer worker
make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city? (If not,
how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

they don't work in subways
Click to expand...

Metro in DC they work just fine. But of course the system is wired for such.
Seems to me they could be made to work in subways, or at least in the
stations, but they haven't seen fit to install the electronics yet...
Click to expand...
 
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:50:23 -0700, Ron M. wrote:

On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 1:15:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy
said that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan
ot be buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would
work underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer
worker make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city?
(If not, how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Cell phone signals won't make it through very much dirt. Certainly not
six feet of it.

If the cemetery is close to a cell tower you could probably put an
antenna on the tombstone connected to a matching antenna in the casket.
But then you need to charge the batteries, so you need to put some
solar cells on the tombstone as well.

Even then, that's only going to be good for as long as the current
technology isn't superseded, at which point the guy had better call in
an exhumation before his service is canceled.

Frankly, if he really wants to meet his goals, I think he should ask
for a sky burial.

If you are referring to ashes in fireworks shell actually in the
industry it is called an aerial burial. Check Crackerjacks 2009 Memorial
on YT.
Click to expand...

I was referring to a platform in the trees, with help from buzzards &
such. Since you ask...

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:35:53 -0700, Phil Allison wrote:

jurb...@gmail.com wrote:


Saved by the bell.


** A phrase that originated in the world of boxing.

Not too hard to figure.


.... Phil
Click to expand...

I thought it originated in school. :)
 
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 11:13:10 AM UTC-5, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 18:50:23 -0700, Ron M. wrote:

On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 1:15:35 PM UTC-5, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:55:47 -0500, electron206 wrote:

Someone was joking around, saying he wanted to be buried with a
cellphone so he can spook certain people after he dies. Another guy
said that a cellphone would not work underground. Well, I dont plan
ot be buried with a cellphone, but I'm now wondering if a cell would
work underground. For example, in a cave or tunnel... Or can a sewer
worker make calls when they are working in sewer pipes under a city?
(If not, how do they communicate with fellow workers above ground?)

Cell phone signals won't make it through very much dirt. Certainly not
six feet of it.

If the cemetery is close to a cell tower you could probably put an
antenna on the tombstone connected to a matching antenna in the casket.
But then you need to charge the batteries, so you need to put some
solar cells on the tombstone as well.

Even then, that's only going to be good for as long as the current
technology isn't superseded, at which point the guy had better call in
an exhumation before his service is canceled.

Frankly, if he really wants to meet his goals, I think he should ask
for a sky burial.

If you are referring to ashes in fireworks shell actually in the
industry it is called an aerial burial. Check Crackerjacks 2009 Memorial
on YT.

I was referring to a platform in the trees, with help from buzzards &
such. Since you ask...
Click to expand...

Man that's funny. I like it. Should of seen it coming.
--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
Click to expand...
 
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