wildly improbable events

[Bret Cahill]

This sort of thing happens all the time in our business, in hardware
and software.

I can imagine!

Insanely unlikely insanely complex things happen,

And they seem especially complex to simpletons who cannot think
rationally.

because there are potentially so many of them. That makes it fun to
track them down.

Fun enough to type LOL! a few times?


Bret Cahill

 

[John]

Joel Koltner wrote:

I have always been amazed how the cost of government-funded programs seems to
grow at a much faster rate than the number of users -- no economies of scale
exist with the government, it would seem.

Are you serious? The government funded initial internet research to
build the internet and it had an impressive pay-pack. The additional
overhead over the years has been in terms of human beings to support it,
but that's a reasonable thing at this point in the technology.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

This sort of thing happens all the time in our business, in hardware
and software.

I can imagine!

Insanely unlikely insanely complex things happen,

And they seem especially complex to simpletons who cannot think
rationally.

because there are potentially so many of them. That makes it fun to
track them down.

Fun enough to type LOL! a few times?

---
Oh, my, you've really let this thing grow into an obsession, haven't
you?

JF

In Bret's case LOL means 'Loser On Lime' so why don't you just reel
it in, and toss it in your troll bucket?


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[John Fields]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:58:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:57:45 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

This sort of thing happens all the time in our business, in hardware
and software.

I can imagine!

Insanely unlikely insanely complex things happen,

And they seem especially complex to simpletons who cannot think
rationally.

because there are potentially so many of them. That makes it fun to
track them down.

Fun enough to type LOL! a few times?

---
Oh, my, you've really let this thing grow into an obsession, haven't
you?

JF


In Bret's case LOL means 'Loser On Lime' so why don't you just reel
it in, and toss it in your troll bucket?

---
He seems to think he's more than chum and wants to fight for status as
bait, so I don't mind tending the reel and letting it know he's been
hooked.
JF

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

In Bret's case LOL means 'Loser On Lime' so why don't you just reel
it in, and toss it in your troll bucket?

He seems to think he's more than chum and wants to fight for status as
bait, so I don't mind tending the reel and letting it know he's been
hooked.

Please use a bigger hook next time so that he spends more time
thinking about the pain, instead of bleating. I don't want to deny you
your fun, but in his case, the gene pool is short a 55 gallon drum of
chlorine.


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[John Fields]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:48:01 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c9c5afe9-6c17-4b68-8fcc-5c554dc43675@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
It's called the "null set."

I believe that an examination of John's company's tax returns would
demonstrate this isn't the case...

Don't be dumb.

---
Unfortunately, poor soul, the choice isn't his to make.

JF

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:48:01 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c9c5afe9-6c17-4b68-8fcc-5c554dc43675@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
It's called the "null set."

I believe that an examination of John's company's tax returns would
demonstrate this isn't the case...

Between the Feds and the state of California, our marginal tax rate is
close to 50%. The upside is that if we want to spend money on
something, we effectively get a 50% discount... so we have a lot of
toys. [1]

Business taxes kill jobs. We should shift to sales taxes. Real ones,
not the VAT nonsense.

John

[1] we can expense the first (roughly) $120K a year in equipment
purchases, more than enough for a small outfit like ours.

Of course, we have to pay the 7.5% sales tax. But that's tax
deductable! Who designed this mess?

 

[Ken S. Tucker]

Hi Mr. Masta.

On Aug 25, 5:16 am, NoS...@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:58:48 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"

dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote:
I built a RC-servo, worked well, except it picked up
the local AM radio station, so I disconnected the
control voltage input from the Rx circuitry and it
was still there even more! The servo arm was
under control of the AM station. I doubt I could
design that on purpose. Using "trial and error"
I clipped in a cap that fixed it, but I was a bit haunted
because I didn't really understand the anomally.
Ken

When you disconnected the control voltage, which was a
low impedance source, the free input saw only its own
impedance, likely much higher. In effect, the control voltage
low impedance had been shunting out the "antenna" of the
input. The cap you added was an even better shunt at RF
(but not at DC for the control voltage), which stopped the AM station.

Yes I think you are right.
The servo control was simple. The control voltage
went through an op-amp, turning the servo DC
motor and an attached pot which fed back to the op,
to shut off the signal. The "over-shoot" hunting, typical
in that type of circuit, was compensated by a resistor
in the feed-back.
That type of circuit only needs 100 corrections/second,
but I left it open to 1 million corrections/second, oops,
a little too much accurancy and that's how the AM
buzzed in. So the cap filtered AM EMR noise input.
Thanks for the neuronics.

Best regards,
Bob Masta

Same
Ken

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[Bret Cahill]

It would be a good prank to try to get this published in an
electronics magazine.

Just don't mention my name. They might not have a sense of humor.

Use one of the names of your sock puppets.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

stan wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:48:01 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c9c5afe9-6c17-4b68-8fcc-5c554dc43675@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
It's called the "null set."

I believe that an examination of John's company's tax returns would
demonstrate this isn't the case...


Between the Feds and the state of California, our marginal tax rate is
close to 50%. The upside is that if we want to spend money on
something, we effectively get a 50% discount... so we have a lot of
toys. [1]

Business taxes kill jobs. We should shift to sales taxes. Real ones,
not the VAT nonsense.

John

[1] we can expense the first (roughly) $120K a year in equipment
purchases, more than enough for a small outfit like ours.

Of course, we have to pay the 7.5% sales tax. But that's tax
deductable! Who designed this mess?

Tax collectors?

Worse. lawyers and actors, posing as politicians.


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[Michael A. Terrell]

stan wrote:.

What do you base this on? What percentage of the market do you think
Linksys has?

Linksys is Cisco.


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It would be a good prank to try to get this published in an
electronics magazine.

Just don't mention my name. �They might not have a sense of humor.

Use one of the names of your sock puppets.

. . .

You can't honestly think you could fool anyone

That's why _you_ need to try to get someone to publish his "work" in a
peer reviewed journal.

It would be a cute prank if they actually did it.

As before, don't mention _my_ name.


Bret Cahill

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

It would be a good prank to try to get this published in an
electronics magazine.

---
Since you post lacking context, no matter how hard Google tries to
learn you Google-groupers into posting properly...

From:

http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348&topic=250


"Summarize what you're following up.

When you click "Reply" under "show options" to follow up an existing
article, Google Groups includes the full article in quotes, with the
cursor at the top of the article. Tempting though it is to just start
typing your message, please STOP and do two things first.
Look at the quoted text and remove parts that are irrelevant.
Then, go to the BOTTOM of the article and start typing there.
Doing this makes it much easier for your readers to get through your
post. They'll have a reminder of the relevant text before your
comment, but won't have to re-read the entire article.
And if your reply appears on a site before the original article does,
they'll get the gist of what you're talking about."

While you got the part about bottom-posting right, you seem to have a
proclivity to snipping so severely that the context of the article is
lost, obfuscating what preceded your reply and forcing someone who
might not have been following the thread acutely to have to backtrack
into the header data in order to see what you're responding to.

Not that it makes much difference since most of your thrashing about,
trying to keep your head above water, is best left ignored, but a word
to the wise should be sufficient.
---

Just don't mention my name. They might not have a sense of humor.

---
Even if they don't, if they've ever read anything "technical" you've
ever written, the very mention of your name, I'm sure, will evoke
hysterical laughter.

Use one of the names of your sock puppets.

---
???

Hey, BTW, what's going on with your web site?

I heard you had some cartoon posted there which you thought might
cause the Jihad to get primitive on your ass so you pulled it down.

So much for standing up for what you believe in, huh?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

You git 'em Rod!

Just don't mention my name.

---
Good advice.

One is known by the company one keeps.

JF

 

[Don Bowey]

On 8/26/08 3:20 PM, in article 85u8b4h97eer6ov3igvtvkg8b9k9sev1jr@4ax.com,
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

It would be a good prank to try to get this published in an
electronics magazine.

---
Since you post lacking context, no matter how hard Google tries to
learn you Google-groupers into posting properly...

From:

http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348&topic=250


"Summarize what you're following up.

When you click "Reply" under "show options" to follow up an existing
article, Google Groups includes the full article in quotes, with the
cursor at the top of the article. Tempting though it is to just start
typing your message, please STOP and do two things first.
Look at the quoted text and remove parts that are irrelevant.
Then, go to the BOTTOM of the article and start typing there.
Doing this makes it much easier for your readers to get through your
post. They'll have a reminder of the relevant text before your
comment, but won't have to re-read the entire article.
And if your reply appears on a site before the original article does,
they'll get the gist of what you're talking about."

While you got the part about bottom-posting right, you seem to have a
proclivity to snipping so severely that the context of the article is
lost, obfuscating what preceded your reply and forcing someone who
might not have been following the thread acutely to have to backtrack
into the header data in order to see what you're responding to.

Not that it makes much difference since most of your thrashing about,
trying to keep your head above water, is best left ignored, but a word
to the wise should be sufficient.
---

Just don't mention my name. They might not have a sense of humor.

---
Even if they don't, if they've ever read anything "technical" you've
ever written, the very mention of your name, I'm sure, will evoke
hysterical laughter.

Use one of the names of your sock puppets.

---
???

Hey, BTW, what's going on with your web site?

I heard you had some cartoon posted there which you thought might
cause the Jihad to get primitive on your ass so you pulled it down.

So much for standing up for what you believe in, huh?

JF

WOW!!!! You're trying to teach that pig to fly.

Good luck.

 

[Bret Cahill]

You git 'em Rod!

Just don't mention my name.

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:19:52 -0700, Don Bowey <dbowey@comcast.net>
wrote:

On 8/26/08 3:20 PM, in article 85u8b4h97eer6ov3igvtvkg8b9k9sev1jr@4ax.com,
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

It would be a good prank to try to get this published in an
electronics magazine.

---
Since you post lacking context, no matter how hard Google tries to
learn you Google-groupers into posting properly...

From:

http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348&topic=250


"Summarize what you're following up.

When you click "Reply" under "show options" to follow up an existing
article, Google Groups includes the full article in quotes, with the
cursor at the top of the article. Tempting though it is to just start
typing your message, please STOP and do two things first.
Look at the quoted text and remove parts that are irrelevant.
Then, go to the BOTTOM of the article and start typing there.
Doing this makes it much easier for your readers to get through your
post. They'll have a reminder of the relevant text before your
comment, but won't have to re-read the entire article.
And if your reply appears on a site before the original article does,
they'll get the gist of what you're talking about."

While you got the part about bottom-posting right, you seem to have a
proclivity to snipping so severely that the context of the article is
lost, obfuscating what preceded your reply and forcing someone who
might not have been following the thread acutely to have to backtrack
into the header data in order to see what you're responding to.

Not that it makes much difference since most of your thrashing about,
trying to keep your head above water, is best left ignored, but a word
to the wise should be sufficient.
---

Just don't mention my name. They might not have a sense of humor.

---
Even if they don't, if they've ever read anything "technical" you've
ever written, the very mention of your name, I'm sure, will evoke
hysterical laughter.

Use one of the names of your sock puppets.

---
???

Hey, BTW, what's going on with your web site?

I heard you had some cartoon posted there which you thought might
cause the Jihad to get primitive on your ass so you pulled it down.

So much for standing up for what you believe in, huh?
'
JF

WOW!!!! You're trying to teach that pig to fly.

---
You're right.
---

Good luck.

---
Thanks.

JF

 

[John]

Rod Speed wrote:

Some gutless fuckwit thats so stupid it couldnt even manage to work
out what was actually being discussed, desperately cowering behind
stan <smoore@exis.net> desperately attempted to bullshit its way
out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

There you are, a certain sign of a desperado up against the wall with no
knowledge, no data, no facts, nothing at all, in his last gasp, screaming.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Some gutless fuckwit thats so stupid it couldnt even manage to work
out what was actually being discussed, desperately cowering behind
stan <smoore@exis.net> desperately attempted to bullshit its way
out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

There you are, a certain sign of a desperado up against the wall with no
knowledge, no data, no facts, nothing at all, in his last gasp, screaming.

Trolls tend to be that way when you park a Mack truck on their nuts.
They scream like little girls and make absolutely no sense.


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[krw]

In article <Mvqdnf9xYMnvLynVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@supernews.com>,
nohj@droffats.ten says...

Rod Speed wrote:
Some gutless fuckwit thats so stupid it couldnt even manage to work
out what was actually being discussed, desperately cowering behind
stan <smoore@exis.net> desperately attempted to bullshit its way
out of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

There you are, a certain sign of a desperado up against the wall with no
knowledge, no data, no facts, nothing at all, in his last gasp, screaming.

That's Ronnie's MO. He gets cornered by his own ignorance and
starts lashing out (key words: "desperately cowering behind"),
snipping everything in the thread of relevance.

--
Keith