Why won't this work?

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micky

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I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

It also does not have an AUX port. Isn't that very, very unusual for a
car radio that has a "Media" button and which plays from a USB style
port? If they go to the trouble to put in the USB circuit and jack,
how much more trouble is it to put in the AUX circuit and jack. Don't
the chips have both to begin with, because it's cheaper to make only one
chip than a different one for each model?

But the point of my post is:

1) There is no adapter made which will change a 2.5mm stereo plug into
a USB connector, right??

2) I found this:
https://yourthingstore.com/products/bluetooth-fm-transmitter-car-charger
but it has what seems to me to be the strangest disclaimer:

"With total contact conductive electrode, the product has the
compatibility to the usage of most cars' cigarette lighter.
All kinds of Nissan, KIA and Subaru car are not included. Besides, Honda
(Odyssey/CITY/Vezel/Crider/FIT/XR-V), Toyota(Vios), New Citroen, New
Jetta, Peugeot(201/301/2008) are also not applicable.
You can check the internal structures of cigarette lighters to confirm
if it is applicable or not."

What about the internal structures of the cigarette lighter could
possibly cause this to not work if it works in other cars? Isn't it a
straight 12 volts? Do they have the polarity reversed on some** cars?
Hard to believe but what else is there?

Aha! The physical shape! Is that it? It looks like it is of
unremarkable shape.

**Especially hard to believe on some Toyotas but not others, some Hondas
but not others, etc. Though it's good to see that this will
apparently work on all American cars.

I ask not because this one item is so important but maybe this one is
just more diligent about putting the warning
 
You should never come out of your safe space.....





"micky" <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:eek:7ujcdp99ad43mhj8uqdjh3ep46d3h6h9h@4ax.com...
: I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
: port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
: not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
: Impossible?
:
: It also does not have an AUX port. Isn't that very, very unusual for a
: car radio that has a "Media" button and which plays from a USB style
: port? If they go to the trouble to put in the USB circuit and jack,
: how much more trouble is it to put in the AUX circuit and jack. Don't
: the chips have both to begin with, because it's cheaper to make only one
: chip than a different one for each model?
:
: But the point of my post is:
:
: 1) There is no adapter made which will change a 2.5mm stereo plug into
: a USB connector, right??
:
: 2) I found this:
: https://yourthingstore.com/products/bluetooth-fm-transmitter-car-charger
: but it has what seems to me to be the strangest disclaimer:
:
: "With total contact conductive electrode, the product has the
: compatibility to the usage of most cars' cigarette lighter.
: All kinds of Nissan, KIA and Subaru car are not included. Besides, Honda
: (Odyssey/CITY/Vezel/Crider/FIT/XR-V), Toyota(Vios), New Citroen, New
: Jetta, Peugeot(201/301/2008) are also not applicable.
: You can check the internal structures of cigarette lighters to confirm
: if it is applicable or not."
:
: What about the internal structures of the cigarette lighter could
: possibly cause this to not work if it works in other cars? Isn't it a
: straight 12 volts? Do they have the polarity reversed on some** cars?
: Hard to believe but what else is there?
:
: Aha! The physical shape! Is that it? It looks like it is of
: unremarkable shape.
:
: **Especially hard to believe on some Toyotas but not others, some Hondas
: but not others, etc. Though it's good to see that this will
: apparently work on all American cars.
:
: I ask not because this one item is so important but maybe this one is
: just more diligent about putting the warning
 
On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?
Click to expand...

2018 High'N'Dry USB port must be broken or is a mal-engineered piece of shit.
FWIW, I use the USB ports in my Fords for charging phones and playing flashdrives.
 
On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?
Click to expand...

I guess anything is possible, but the ability to charge a phone is a big
feature in cars today. Have you tried a different cord?
 
In sci.electronics.repair, on Sun, 8 Apr 2018 10:38:01 -0400, Ed
Pawlowski <esp@snet.net> wrote:

On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?


I guess anything is possible, but the ability to charge a phone is a big
feature in cars today. Have you tried a different cord?
Click to expand...

It's the same cord i used in the previous car. Oh, and after I noticed
that it wasn't charging, I put a USB to cigarette adapter in that
cigarette lighter port, and it's been working fine since then.

They told me I had to return the car for inspection and take the new one
which is not nearly as nice.

I do have another cord but it takes 2 hands to plug anything in there,
using one finger of each hand. When I use two fingers of one hand, I
can't get my hand in far enough!
 
On Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:01:21 UTC+1, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

It also does not have an AUX port. Isn't that very, very unusual for a
car radio that has a "Media" button and which plays from a USB style
port? If they go to the trouble to put in the USB circuit and jack,
how much more trouble is it to put in the AUX circuit and jack. Don't
the chips have both to begin with, because it's cheaper to make only one
chip than a different one for each model?

But the point of my post is:

1) There is no adapter made which will change a 2.5mm stereo plug into
a USB connector, right??
Click to expand...

I've got 3.5mm jack to usb adaptors, never seen 2.5 though. You've got some unusual kit if it outputs on 2.5mm jack.


NT
 
On 04/08/2018 08:00 AM, micky wrote:

I do have another cord but it takes 2 hands to plug anything in there,
using one finger of each hand. When I use two fingers of one hand, I
can't get my hand in far enough!
Click to expand...

I got a short USB cable and plug my flash drive into the single AUX port
-- I figured I'd eventually break the drive if I plugged it directly
into the port.

Get a cigarette lighter splitter with cords to the ends rather than a
one-piece thing. Plug a charger-thing and cable(s) into one hole and
your GPS unit into the other. Try not to step or trip on the cables.
Don't ask me how I know this.

This isn't the one I ordered, but similar. There are nicer ones.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydftzees


--
Cheers, Bev
I didn't break it! It was doing that before I broke it... er...
 
For the record, it is called "USER ERROR". That you wish something does not make it so.

That would be exactly why God invented the Owner's Manual.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
replying to micky, passerby wrote:
> USB style port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but
will not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

The manual for my 2017 Prius specifically says about the USB port - "Not for
charging". I guess they don't want you to plug something large, like a battery
bank and fry the circuit, which they will then be forced to replace during the
warranty. I'm not sure if there's a better explanation as to why, but at the
very least the car USB port that's not able to supply charging current is not
that uncommon.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/why-won-t-this-work-1163812-.htm
 
On 4/8/2018 10:25 AM, Henry Ford wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port.  Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

2018 High'N'Dry USB port must be broken or is a mal-engineered piece of
shit.
FWIW, I use the USB ports in my Fords for charging phones and playing
flashdrives.
Click to expand...
Read elsewhere USB ports can be too under-powered and will work for
devices but not to charge them. You could use cigarette lighter adapter
to charge things.
 
On 4/8/2018 2:56 PM, Frank wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:25 AM, Henry Ford wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port.  Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

2018 High'N'Dry USB port must be broken or is a mal-engineered piece of shit.
FWIW, I use the USB ports in my Fords for charging phones and playing flashdrives.

Read elsewhere USB ports can be too under-powered and will work for devices but not to charge them.  You could use cigarette lighter adapter to charge things.
Click to expand...

Yah, you're right. It just seems silly to do that in a vehicle.
 
On 04/08/2018 03:40 PM, Henry Ford wrote:
On 4/8/2018 2:56 PM, Frank wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:25 AM, Henry Ford wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

2018 High'N'Dry USB port must be broken or is a mal-engineered piece of shit.
FWIW, I use the USB ports in my Fords for charging phones and playing flashdrives.

Read elsewhere USB ports can be too under-powered and will work for devices but not to charge them. You could use cigarette lighter adapter to charge things.

Yah, you're right. It just seems silly to do that in a vehicle.
Click to expand...

What, keeping your phone/tablet charged in a car seems silly? Recent
3-day 1K-mile trip through Utah, and I ran my phone down taking photos.
A car charger is essential.

--
Cheers, Bev
Nobody needs to speak on behalf of idiots, they manage
to speak entirely too much for themselves already.
 
In sci.electronics.repair, on Sun, 8 Apr 2018 19:32:19 -0700, The Real
Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

On 04/08/2018 03:40 PM, Henry Ford wrote:
On 4/8/2018 2:56 PM, Frank wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:25 AM, Henry Ford wrote:
On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote:
I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style
port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will
not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual?
Impossible?

2018 High'N'Dry USB port must be broken or is a mal-engineered piece of shit.
FWIW, I use the USB ports in my Fords for charging phones and playing flashdrives.

Read elsewhere USB ports can be too under-powered and will work for devices but not to charge them.
Click to expand...

That must be it. At least I'm not the only one.

>>> You could use cigarette lighter adapter to charge things.

That's what I've been doing, but I'm sure a lot of people don't think to
bring one of those things. (You have to have one that lights up, too.
Last year I had one that never lit up and I wouldn't know when it wasn't
plugged in well and wasn't charging anything.)
Yah, you're right. It just seems silly to do that in a vehicle.

What, keeping your phone/tablet charged in a car seems silly? Recent
Click to expand...

I think he means it's silly to have an underpowered usb port in a car,
since you can't go to the next room and use the outlet there.

>3-day 1K-mile trip through Utah, and I ran my phone down taking photos.

I would have run my phone down too but I kept it charging. In addition
I carry a real camera and I ran its battery down twice, but I had 2
spare batteries. (and could also charge it from the car without
removing the battery) Plus for only about 5 dollars I got a car charger
for the camera battery (when outside the camera) and I used that. So I
really needed 2 cigarette sockets. The Kia had two. The Nissan Micra I
started with this year had only one, but I brought a Y-connector for
cigarettes. They have them with wires, even tri-connectors at hamfests,
but this one was from Amazon and was one stiff plastic case.

Then they called and said I had to return the car that day, the next
day, for sure the day after. They could have given me more warning.
The new one is a High'n'dry. USB but no AUX. Fortunately I was smart
enough to bring something, about the size and shape of a spool of
thread, and it connects to the phone with bluetooth and to the radio
with any FM frequency I choose. It works really well, starts by
itself, and the only probably is that the girl inside it pronounces
bluetooth as blazetooth. Maybe I can get the incredible shrinking man
to go in there and teach her better diction.

> A car charger is essential.

Absolutely
 
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