Why the Ignorant / Stupid Are the First Responders to Good M

[Bret Cahill]

You've seen it happen a thousand times. The first responses to a good
OP will be those with nothing to say and no interest in the subject,
IOW, the stoopid.

Later on the knowledgeable appear exposing the first responders as
complete fools.

This is easy to explain:

1. The thoughtful, by definition, are going to give a good OP some
time. They'll at least research the matter to make sure that Karl
Marx, in fact, wrote the Federalist #10, or that it is impossible to
determine the flow rate in a pipe.

2. The dumb outnumber the intelligent so the odds are that the first
responders will be dumb.


Bret Cahill

 

[spudnik]

that *was* rather easy. so, why can't we just have a little tax on
carbon,
instead of this "free trade" rip-off?

This is easy to explain:

--le theoreme prochaine du Fermatttt!
http://wlym.com

 

[Shrikeback]

On Jun 22, 12:34 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

You've seen it happen a thousand times.  The first responses to a good
OP will be those with nothing to say and no interest in the subject,
IOW, the stoopid.

Later on the knowledgeable appear exposing the first responders as
complete fools.

This is easy to explain:

1.  The thoughtful, by definition, are going to give a good OP some
time.  They'll at least research the matter to make sure that Karl
Marx, in fact, wrote the Federalist #10, or that it is impossible to
determine the flow rate in a pipe.

2.  The dumb outnumber the intelligent so the odds are that the first
responders will be dumb.

You ignore the self-evident truth that your
sample doesn't include any good posts.
Maybe you'll have to navigate over to alt.fan.
big.teabags.

 

[spudnik]

teabagism is based on a false principle,
that the American Revolution was predicated
upon "taxation without representation,"
which was but a tiny corner of the real ecoonomic problem
-- which is exemplified by the so-called Nobel Prize
in Economics, such as the NYTimes columnist got;
there ain't no such a thing!

thus&so:
there is one theory, that Moon is a dead planet; that is,
if one does not assume that all craters are via bolides,
that the maria are basaltic seafloors, and the highlands
being the finally acreted "Panluna."

therefore, if residual water is to be found,
mayhap also residual hydrocarbons.

The vacuum of the lunar surface makes anything of a conventional
liquid or fluid impossible.

thus&so:
are not there already several kinds
of "surrogate factoring" in numbertheory ...
is that a demonstration of the meaning Life,
Universe and 42?

yeah; the second Meander number!

thus&so:
that's about what Roemer did (no umlaut
for the o, hereat). note that
Vedic astrology included the precession of the equinoxes,
whereas Western or Symbolic or Solar atrology doesn't;
it is based upon Ptolemy's hoax, which had no epicylce
for that well-known phenomenon. so,
when a typical western astrologer does your sign,
it is no-better than the twelve daily fortune-cookies
in the newspaper -- Sydney Omarr is dead;
long-live Sydney Omarr (TM) !!

a + b + c + d = x^2
a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2 = y^2
a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3 = z^3
If (a, b, c, d) is a solution then so is
(akk, bkk, ckk, dkk)
for any square kk.
Solutions for a,b,c,d < 1300 with
no such common square factor include
(0, 0, 0, 1)
(10, 13, 14, 44)
(54, 109, 202, 260)
(102, 130, 234, 318)

thus&so:
surely it could not be so hard,
to find some of the rather definitive un-null results
of Michelson, Morely et al; is it?... well, even
as Albert the Witnit wobbled on the idea of aether,
it is really a matter of interpretation. so,
why cannot the electromagnetic properties
of atoms in "space" be an aether; to wit,
permitivity & permeability?
should your "theory" can be taken at all seriously,
you'd have to be able to explain such; would you not?
oh, and there never was a twin paradox;
it is just a "term of art" and pop-science. I mean,
shouldn't the few properties of energy, of light,
be of the ultimate importance for matter,
per the experiments of Young, Fresnel et al,
in utterly burying Newton's "theory" of corpuscles
-- til it was rescued by the word, "photon;
hereinat to be interpreted to mean a massless rock
o'light?... and, thanks for that Nobel!"

Using Larmor’s transform, there is no twin’s paradox.

--BP loves Waxman-Obama cap&trade (at least circa Kyoto, or
Waxman's '91 cap&trade on NOX and SO2) --
how about a tiny tax, instead of the Last Bailout
of Wall Street and the "City of London?"
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2010/lar_pac/100621pne_nordyke.html

--le theoreme prochaine du Fermatttt!
http://wlym.com

 

[Bret Cahill]

You've seen it happen a thousand times.  The first responses to a good
OP will be those with nothing to say and no interest in the subject,
IOW, the stoopid.

Later on the knowledgeable appear exposing the first responders as
complete fools.

This is easy to explain:

1.  The thoughtful, by definition, are going to give a good OP some
time.  They'll at least research the matter to make sure that Karl
Marx, in fact, wrote the Federalist #10, or that it is impossible to
determine the flow rate in a pipe.

2.  The dumb outnumber the intelligent so the odds are that the first
responders will be dumb.

Take this thread for example:

Why the Ignorant / Stupid Are the First Responders to Good Math /
Science / Tech OPs
1 Bret Cahill Jun 22
BP loves Waxman-Obama cap&trade (circa Kyoto Protocol, or Waxman's
'91 bill)
2 spudnik Jun 22
Garbage in, Garbage out (Was Re: Why the Ignorant / Stupid Are the
First Responders to Good Math / Science / Tech OPs)
3 Shrikeback Jun 22
folks really believe that oilcos hate cap&trade on fossilized fuels
TM?
4 spudnik Jun 23

 

[spudnik]

yeah; that was quite self-referential, dood.

thus&so:
well, just day, Duh!... as you could learn, Obama was the lawyer,
who put-together the foundation money to start the CCX
in 2003; free trade, free beer, freedom in a free market,
run by the City of London! (the Carbon Credit Exchange is based
in London; the Intl. Carbon Exchange is HQ'd in Atlanta, but
is juridicially administered in London; etc. ad vomitorium.)

thus&so:
it is quite the fault of Californicators, since I suppose that
we are the #1 customers of Gulf and Alaska oil, because
of a little spill off of Santa Barbara in the Brown Admin. --
and he's bound & determined not to let any knew leases,
as the AG. please, folks; do the God-am math!... and, of course,
we are still using '50s nuclear energy (seven tenths
of the noncarbon-burning electricity in the US , even so .-)

the figure of seeps in teh Gulf,
of one Exxon Valdez per year, was in a cover article,
some years ago, in Scientific American or National Geographic.

thus&so:
it is apparent from the Liberal Media, Owned by consWervatives,
that BP's spill is being used to promote BP's cap&trade nostrum,
to the effect that Waxman-Obama will mandatorize the huge,
voluntary cap&trade in the USA, which is smaller than the EU's,
which is mandatory. so, how did Waxman's '91 cap&trade bill, go,
mister Murdoch -- was it also "cap&tax" a l'Urinal?
http://larouchepub.com/other/2010/3724nuke_brit_sabotage.html

thus&so:
teabagism is based on a false principle,
that the American Revolution was predicated
upon "taxation without representation,"
which was but a tiny corner of the real ecoonomic problem
-- which is exemplified by the so-called Nobel Prize
in Economics, such as the NYTimes columnist got;
there ain't no such a thing, whether or not Klugman knew!

thus&so:
there is one theory, that Moon is a dead planet; that is,
if one does not assume that all craters are via bolides,
that the maria are basaltic seafloors, and the highlands
being the finally acreted "Panluna."
therefore, if residual water is to be found,
mayhap also residual hydrocarbons.

The vacuum of Moon makes a conventional liquid or fluid impossible.

thus&so:
are not there already several kinds
of "surrogate factoring" in numbertheory ...
is that a demonstration of the meaning Life,
Universe and 42?... yeah; the second Meander number!

thus&so:
that's about what Roemer did (no umlaut
for the o, hereat). note that
Vedic astrology included the precession of the equinoxes,
whereas Western or Symbolic or Solar atrology doesn't;
it is based upon Ptolemy's hoax, which had no epicylce
for that well-known phenomenon. so,
when a typical western astrologer does your sign,
it is no-better than the twelve daily fortune-cookies
in the newspaper -- Sydney Omarr is dead;
long-live Sydney Omarr (TM) !!

a + b + c + d = x^2
a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2 = y^2
a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3 = z^3
If (a, b, c, d) is a solution then so is (akk, bkk, ckk, dkk) for any square kk.
Solutions for a,b,c,d < 1300 with no such common square factor include
(0, 0, 0, 1)
(10, 13, 14, 44)
(54, 109, 202, 260)
(102, 130, 234, 318)

thus&so:
surely it could not be so hard,
to find some of the rather definitive un-null results
of Michelson, Morely et al; is it?... well, even
as Albert the Witnit wobbled on the idea of aether,
it is really a matter of interpretation. so,
why cannot the electromagnetic properties
of atoms in "space" be an aether; to wit,
permitivity & permeability?
should your "theory" can be taken at all seriously,
you'd have to be able to explain such; would you not?
oh, and there never was a twin paradox;
it is just a "term of art" and pop-science. I mean,
shouldn't the few properties of energy, of light,
be of the ultimate importance for matter,
per the experiments of Young, Fresnel et al,
in utterly burying Newton's "theory" of corpuscles
-- til it was rescued by the word, "photon;
hereinat to be interpreted to mean a massless rock
o'light?... and, thanks for that Nobel!"

Using Larmor’s transform, there is no twin’s paradox.

--BP loves Waxman-Obama cap&trade (at least circa Kyoto, or
Waxman's '91 cap&trade on NOX and SO2) --
how about a tiny tax, instead of the Last Bailout
of Wall Street and the "City of London?"
http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2010/lar_pac/100621pne_nordyke.html

--le theoreme prochaine du Fermatttt!
http://wlym.com

 

[Bret Cahill]

You've seen it happen a thousand times. The first responses to a
good
OP will be those with nothing to say and no interest in the subject,
IOW, the stoopid.

Later on the knowledgeable appear exposing the first responders as
complete fools.


This is easy to explain:


1. The thoughtful, by definition, are going to give a good OP some
time. They'll at least research the matter to make sure that Karl
Marx, in fact, wrote the Federalist #10, or that it is impossible to
determine the flow rate in a pipe.


2. The dumb outnumber the intelligent so the odds are that the first
responders will be dumb.


Bret Cahill

 

[Sir Frederick Martin]

On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:04:23 -0700 (PDT), Cassidy Furlong <cassidyerinkat@gmail.com> wrote:

well, there's phi of me to one o'you; go figure!

2.  The dumb outnumber the intelligent so the odds are that the first

--the duke of oil!
Rationale. In addition to political, economic, and mechanical
feasibility, one must consider the environmental consequences of
choosing ethanol over gasoline. In par- ticular, the amount of air
pollution released in the form of CO2 and other green house gases
(GHGs) is a crucial point of interest. In order to model the
difference in ethanol and gasoline emissions, it is necessary to
calculate the final mass of GHGs (in the case where 10% of the
gasoline energy supply has been replaced by ethanol) minus the ini-
tial mass (before the 10% replacement was implemented). If the result
is negative, the 10% ethanol scenario gives off fewer GHGs; if it is
positive, it gives off more.
Assumptions and calculations. Our model is based on the following
assump- tions:
1.
Itisassumedthatnearlyallofthegasolinerequiredfortheproductionofethanol
That word appears to be misspelled!

 

[Cassidy Furlong]

well, there's phi of me to one o'you; go figure!

2.  The dumb outnumber the intelligent so the odds are that the first

--the duke of oil!
Rationale. In addition to political, economic, and mechanical
feasibility, one must consider the environmental consequences of
choosing ethanol over gasoline. In par- ticular, the amount of air
pollution released in the form of CO2 and other green house gases
(GHGs) is a crucial point of interest. In order to model the
difference in ethanol and gasoline emissions, it is necessary to
calculate the final mass of GHGs (in the case where 10% of the
gasoline energy supply has been replaced by ethanol) minus the ini-
tial mass (before the 10% replacement was implemented). If the result
is negative, the 10% ethanol scenario gives off fewer GHGs; if it is
positive, it gives off more.
Assumptions and calculations. Our model is based on the following
assump- tions:
1.
Itisassumedthatnearlyallofthegasolinerequiredfortheproductionofethanol
is used in the farming and harvesting stage, while other energy
sources (i.e., coal)
http://www.maa.org/pubs/cmj47.pdf
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-8-the-permian-basin-gang/

 

[spudnik]

as far as I know, the ethanol subsidies are creating a dustbowl
in the Midwest, with the farmers building huge storages
for corn to game the hedge-funds etc. ad vomitorium ... which, of
course,
are nothing, compared to Waxman's cap&trade.

Itisassumedthatnearlyallofthegasolinerequiredfortheproductionofethanol
That word appears to be misspelled!

thus&so:
can you actually show that Dubya was aware
of much of anything that was ever done in his name?... I mean,
why didn't he sign the Kyoto cap&trade nostrum?

Tell us the one about how Cheeny and Bush had no inkling, an attack'd occur

thus&so:
so, the wherebouts of Cheeny are of such importance, presumably
because he was in charge, with Dubya in a classroom. but, keep in
mind,
at least two executive orders made the VP a)
the head of the NSC, circa Raegan's first months (them, they shot
him), and b)
the head of the Principals Cmte., circa impeachment, that is to say,
the Acting President, when ever the PC was in effect ...
which could still be & apparently was for some or all
of Dubya's eight years in office.

thus&so:
OK, why don't you dyscuss, whether or not cap&trade is a "tax,"
per the WSUrinal editorials' & teaparty's mere slogan, or just another
way
for the bears &bulls to make money, whilst the hogs get slaughtered?

(that is to say, the Next (or very Last) Bailout of Wall Street etc.,
including Beyondish Petroleumish, the big operators
in the Gulf and Alaska ... and "the nationbuilding of E.Timor?")

thus&so:
the Kyoto Protocol was stricltly cap&trade, a.k.a. "free trade"
of the yore of British imperialism in 1776 (whence Smith's second
hoax,
_The Wealth of Nations_, was published), as Waxman's wunnerful bill
of '91 on NOX and SO2. maybe, it was fortunate, that someone lied
to Dubya about Kyoto's true nature, or he'd surely have signed it.
so, how about an actual, tiny, accountable carbon tax, instead
of the next and/or last bailout of Wall Street and the City
(of London, financial district & gated community) ??
the voluntary USA cap&trade, apparently partly started
by Sen. Obama via private foundations, is already huge,
tens of billions of dollars US per annum since 2003, although
much smaller than the EU's mandatory one.

Kyoto and Cap & Trade.

thus&so:
ice that is within the arctic circles
never gets direct insolation over 47 degrees from horizon (or
less than 43 degrees from zenith). I mean,
that is not really apparent in GCMers flatscreen HDTVs.

Which sea ice (Arctic summer or Antarctic winter) affects albedo, most?

thus&so:
all of the Liberal Media, oWned by consWervatives, seems
to agree with Emmanuel, that this is the time
to install BP's old cap&trade ideals from Kyoto ... actually,
first launched in '91 under Waxman and H-Dubya.

thus&so:
so, acid rain is the germain topic, since
it was the First Cap and Trade (Waxman's '91 bill). so,
what I haven't seen dyscussed in the WSUrinal e.g.,
is just how wonderfully this'd worked --
who made the money in the God-am "free market?"
[NB, Waxman's cmte. also ran the healthcare bill;
is that a conspiracy, or doe he get free drugs?]

thus&so:
sad to say, I missed the authors of _Doubt Merchants_,
when they came to the public library, as folks around here
rely on me to be the (usually) lone contrarian in Santa Monica,
the capital of Green (with the help of Alcoa's largest-ever
bequest to the WAND Corp., when the President was chosen
to be Dubya's Treasurer ... when HDPE bags are outlawed,
only criminals and baby-smotherers will have HDPE bags -- a-hem.)
you bring-up 9/11 and Saddam Hussein. well, 2003 was when a)
they cut-off a tenth of our supply to Californicators (with their ban
on offshore drilling), and spent a huge amount of oil
on the new war ... and that's when the hedgers jacked the price up,
kind of a double-whammy after the "electricity crisis"
from Texas and Canada.

thus&so:
such is the nature of an ad hoc interpretation of glaciation,
that added snowfall requires a "colder" planet (and that
more icebergs calving necessarily implies melting ...
not according to the satellite telemetry,
circa the day of the panel at UCLA, a few y.a.;
citing-out two of the professors, known to me.)

increasing WV content results in stronger cyclonic systems
as much as or more than vertical lapse rate changes.

thus quoth:
Miskolczi said in <http://www.met.hu/doc/idojaras/vol111001_01.pdf>

thus&so:
what if the same guy who was the source d'Eaugate
for Bernward at the Post [*], was also the Vice President,
who purposely set his mattress on fire in the first tower
(second was hit by a 757 filled with fuel for most
of a transcontinental flight, minus the steering loop);
and, so, how many mattresses'd he have'd to set,
to make for a controlled demolition?
well, some of us believe that
he was not just the acting president --
especially since the impeachment of Bill C..
* in the theatrical parlance of editor Bradley or ms. Graham,
Woodstein ne'er followed the Pennzoil money to <a-hem>;
see http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/

--BP's cap&trade plus free beer/miles on your CO2 creds at ARCO!
http://wlym.com

 

[curmudgeon]

The first shall be last and the last shall be first.