Why is the micro USB so fragile compared to mini USB cable e

[Chris Uppal]

Andy Burns wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote:

It seems that either you got rare a rouge batch

I thought someone wanted orange, not red ...

Don't blame me, blame the spellchecker ;-)

Ta

-- chris

 

[Avraham Bernholz]

Chris Uppal wrote, on Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:26:08 +0100:

It seems that either you got rare a rouge batch, or that that entire
supply chain doesn't include /anyone/ who cares as much about quality
control

I suspect it's the latter as Frys was selling them cheap.

I do remember one failing right off the bat, and they replaced it without
even looking at it, which is odd, for Frys (who is usually a pain to
return stuff to).

So, I now conclude they are used to getting *these* cables back.
Too bad Frys has such a short warranty period (something like two weeks
or so).

 

[The Real Bev]

On 08/22/2014 07:31 PM, Avraham Bernholz wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote, on Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:26:08 +0100:

It seems that either you got rare a rouge batch, or that that entire
supply chain doesn't include /anyone/ who cares as much about quality
control

I suspect it's the latter as Frys was selling them cheap.

I do remember one failing right off the bat, and they replaced it without
even looking at it, which is odd, for Frys (who is usually a pain to
return stuff to).

The Burbank and Industry stores have been OK about returning stuff,
which is good because we've returned a LOT of stuff. They clearly sell
a lot of questionable stuff, but the prices are frequently so good that
we're willing to risk it. Over the years we're clearly ahead of the
game, even taking the cost of gas for the return trip into account.

So, I now conclude they are used to getting *these* cables back.
Too bad Frys has such a short warranty period (something like two weeks
or so).

There are penalties for procrastination :-(

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[Dave Liquorice]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:28:51 +0200, Poutnik wrote:

I don't get that effect with mine. I do drive between towns in
rural
areas with no coverage between them and don't find that I see a
much
reduced time on battery in that situation and I leave the GPS,
wifi and
bluetooth on all the time too.

Perhaps there is difference between no coverage ( phone may give up, not
listening any tower ) ...

Yep, nothing to talk to they don't try. Getting the damn thing to
wake back up when you know you are back in coverage can be PITA.

... and weak coverage ( phone tries to communicate by high power
to weak signals of distant/terrain shielded towers ).

Going in or out of coverage be that coverage weak or strong really
drains the battery as the thing is constantly logging in, losing
tignal, getting it back, logging in again, etc etc. If this is
happening in a weak signal area the drain is higher as the phone will
crank up it's output.

--
Cheers
Dave.

 

[Rod Speed]

Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

I don't get that effect with mine. I do drive between towns
in rural areas with no coverage between them and don't
find that I see a much reduced time on battery in that
situation and I leave the GPS, wifi and bluetooth on all
the time too.

Perhaps there is difference between no coverage
( phone may give up, not listening any tower )

That doesn't happen. If it did, it wouldn't see coverage return
when you get to the next town that does have a tower.

and weak coverage ( phone tries to communicate by high
power to weak signals of distant/terrain shielded towers ).

It always does that, because coverage will return
eventually when you are driving around in a car.

I remember my old Siemens feature phone M50 lasted
usually 4 days. But in the mountains with bad coverage,
it was drained in few hours of whole day ski trip.

Like I say, I don't get that effect with mine.

 

[Poutnik]

Dne 23.8.2014 v 11:59 Dave Liquorice napsal(a):

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:28:51 +0200, Poutnik wrote:



Perhaps there is difference between no coverage ( phone may give up, not
listening any tower ) ...

Yep, nothing to talk to they don't try. Getting the damn thing to
wake back up when you know you are back in coverage can be PITA.

... and weak coverage ( phone tries to communicate by high power
to weak signals of distant/terrain shielded towers ).

Going in or out of coverage be that coverage weak or strong really
drains the battery as the thing is constantly logging in, losing
tignal, getting it back, logging in again, etc etc. If this is
happening in a weak signal area the drain is higher as the phone will
crank up it's output.

I usually set a phone for airplane mode in such areas, to save battery.
Good thing is that GPS receiver works in that mode as well,
as it is not transmitter.

--
Poutnik

Wise man guards the words he says,
as they may say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

 

[Michael Black]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, The Real Bev wrote:

On 08/20/2014 11:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Avraham Bernholz wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote, on Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:47:03 +0100:

Price ? Brand ?

I don't have the original shrinkwrap, but it was generic
Frys stuff. I will have to go back and look at the brand,
but, how does *that* help?

Let's say the brand is "made in China" stuff?
Is that necessarily better or worse than "made in anywhere else"
stuff?

I'm sure if the brand were "Belken", it would be good, but,
I think this was just generic stuff. Why should something as
simple as a cable need to be name brand anyway?

And, what is a name brand (other than Belken) anyway, for
cables?

I just bought some from Dollar Tree for $1 each. They are bright
green, so they'll be easy to spot, when I need one.

The 99-Cents-Only store had orange ones They also had a variety of skins
for one of the Apple or Samsung phones which ALMOST fit my BLU -- I gave the
skin to my granddaughter, who has used it for months.

I had never seen anything but black (and of course, iPod cables in white).

But I was looking for something in a chain drugstore yesterday, and
suddenly notice they have colored microUSB cables for 3.99. Not dollar
store pricing, but kind of handy to know. I try to grab them when I see
them in the garbage or in 25cent bins at garage sales, but I keep
misplacing them.

And some color would be nice.

Michael

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Michael Black wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014, The Real Bev wrote:

On 08/20/2014 11:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Avraham Bernholz wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote, on Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:47:03 +0100:

Price ? Brand ?

I don't have the original shrinkwrap, but it was generic
Frys stuff. I will have to go back and look at the brand,
but, how does *that* help?

Let's say the brand is "made in China" stuff?
Is that necessarily better or worse than "made in anywhere else"
stuff?

I'm sure if the brand were "Belken", it would be good, but,
I think this was just generic stuff. Why should something as
simple as a cable need to be name brand anyway?

And, what is a name brand (other than Belken) anyway, for
cables?

I just bought some from Dollar Tree for $1 each. They are bright
green, so they'll be easy to spot, when I need one.

The 99-Cents-Only store had orange ones They also had a variety of skins
for one of the Apple or Samsung phones which ALMOST fit my BLU -- I gave the
skin to my granddaughter, who has used it for months.

I had never seen anything but black (and of course, iPod cables in white).

But I was looking for something in a chain drugstore yesterday, and
suddenly notice they have colored microUSB cables for 3.99. Not dollar
store pricing, but kind of handy to know. I try to grab them when I see
them in the garbage or in 25cent bins at garage sales, but I keep
misplacing them.

And some color would be nice.

Ebay has a lot of colors, but they aren't cheap.

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

 

[Kees Nuyt]

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:18:51 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net>
wrote:

I instinctively plug micro USB end into a phone,
before I plug the USB end into USB socket of PC or a charge.

Same here.

It's my general rule: Plug in the most fragile first, the least
fragile last.

This is what I tell my girlfriend ...

Start charging:

1. Plug micro USB into phone/tablet
2. Plug USB A into charger
3. Plug charger into mains

or

1. Plug micro USB into phone
2. Plug USB A into laptop


And after charging:

1. Unplug charger from mains
2. Unplug USB A from charger
3. Unplug micro USB from phone/tablet

or

1. Unplug USB A from laptop
2. Unplug micro USB from phone/tablet


Never had a USB cable fail on me.
--
Kees Nuyt

 

[Aaron2]

Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> wrote:

Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.net>>wrote:

I instinctively plug micro USB end into a phone,
before I plug the USB end into USB socket of PC or a charge.

Same here.

It's my general rule: Plug in the most fragile first, the least
fragile last.

Way too much hassle. Just leave the cable and charger plugged in all
the time. The micro end still receives the same number of inserts.

>Never had a USB cable fail on me.

Me neither.

 

[Ron]

On 8/20/2014 2:03 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Avraham Bernholz wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote, on Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:47:03 +0100:

Price ? Brand ?

I don't have the original shrinkwrap, but it was generic
Frys stuff. I will have to go back and look at the brand,
but, how does *that* help?

Let's say the brand is "made in China" stuff?
Is that necessarily better or worse than "made in anywhere else"
stuff?

I'm sure if the brand were "Belken", it would be good, but,
I think this was just generic stuff. Why should something as
simple as a cable need to be name brand anyway?

And, what is a name brand (other than Belken) anyway, for
cables?


I just bought some from Dollar Tree for $1 each. They are bright
green, so they'll be easy to spot, when I need one.

Just bought some?

I don't see any USB cables listed using their search engine.

http://www.dollartree.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&keyword=usb%20cable


Maybe it's just a product that they occasionally have so it isn't listed
on their website?

Also, are the cables data cables or are they for charging only?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Ron wrote:

On 8/20/2014 2:03 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Avraham Bernholz wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote, on Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:47:03 +0100:

Price ? Brand ?

I don't have the original shrinkwrap, but it was generic
Frys stuff. I will have to go back and look at the brand,
but, how does *that* help?

Let's say the brand is "made in China" stuff?
Is that necessarily better or worse than "made in anywhere else"
stuff?

I'm sure if the brand were "Belken", it would be good, but,
I think this was just generic stuff. Why should something as
simple as a cable need to be name brand anyway?

And, what is a name brand (other than Belken) anyway, for
cables?


I just bought some from Dollar Tree for $1 each. They are bright
green, so they'll be easy to spot, when I need one.



Just bought some?

I don't see any USB cables listed using their search engine.

http://www.dollartree.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&keyword=usb%20cable

Maybe it's just a product that they occasionally have so it isn't listed
on their website?

Also, are the cables data cables or are they for charging only?

They are not always in stock, so they aren't on their website. They
are data cables. There are four or five stores around here, and one is
close to the grocery store I use. Another is next to the harbor Freight
store, and a third near Office Depot. The others are further than it's
worth to drive to, for a couple $1 items


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

 

[Ron]

On 8/26/2014 4:46 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Ron wrote:

On 8/20/2014 2:03 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Avraham Bernholz wrote:

Chris Uppal wrote, on Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:47:03 +0100:

Price ? Brand ?

I don't have the original shrinkwrap, but it was generic
Frys stuff. I will have to go back and look at the brand,
but, how does *that* help?

Let's say the brand is "made in China" stuff?
Is that necessarily better or worse than "made in anywhere else"
stuff?

I'm sure if the brand were "Belken", it would be good, but,
I think this was just generic stuff. Why should something as
simple as a cable need to be name brand anyway?

And, what is a name brand (other than Belken) anyway, for
cables?


I just bought some from Dollar Tree for $1 each. They are bright
green, so they'll be easy to spot, when I need one.



Just bought some?

I don't see any USB cables listed using their search engine.

http://www.dollartree.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&keyword=usb%20cable

Maybe it's just a product that they occasionally have so it isn't listed
on their website?

Also, are the cables data cables or are they for charging only?


They are not always in stock, so they aren't on their website. They
are data cables. There are four or five stores around here, and one is
close to the grocery store I use. Another is next to the harbor Freight
store, and a third near Office Depot. The others are further than it's
worth to drive to, for a couple $1 items

Thanks! I need a data cable for my Kindle Fire and a dollar is a great deal.