Why do lithium batteries explode?

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Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37255127

Samsung's decision to halt sales of the new Galaxy Note 7 because of
reports of battery explosions is an extraordinary step for a tech giant
to take.

The firm said it had identified a battery issue but did not elaborate.

But if a lithium-ion battery cell charges too quickly or a tiny
manufacturing error slips through the net it can result in a short
circuit - which can lead to fire.

One expert urged the industry to find safer alternatives to lithium.

"I think one should be concerned and push towards safer battery tech,"
said energy storage expert Professor Clare Grey from Cambridge University.

"That should be an important focus on research and industry development.

"While most manufacturing flaws will be picked up during initial
testing, it's not an infallible process."

However Prof Grey also said that people should not panic.

"I'm standing at an airport - every single person would have to stop
what they are doing if we took their batteries away from them," she said.

"We all take risks in our lives - we drive cars sitting on top of
flammable organic liquids. Other tech is coming along that is safer."
Common causes

There have only been 35 cases of the Galaxy Note 7 catching fire
reported worldwide following 2.5 million sales, Samsung says.

The lithium ion batteries used by Samsung are common across the tech
industry - so what makes them hazardous?

It's important to understand a little about how they work. Simply they
contain a cathode, an anode and lithium.

The cathode and anode are separated by an organic liquid called an
electrolyte and a porous material called the separator.

The lithium travels through the separator, within the liquid, between
the two.
Quick charge

If the battery charges too fast, generating heat, lithium plates form
around the anode which can create a short circuit.

"Normally you would have a battery management system that controls the
rate at which you charge," said Prof Grey.

"Batteries are optimised so that you don't charge too fast - if you do
that you will plate the lithium."

This is also why battery charging can be a frustratingly slow
experience, she added.

Other faults that can cause a short circuit include contamination by
tiny fragments of metal during the production process or minute holes in
the sealing, which might not become apparent until the battery has been
charged a few times as the materials expand and contract.

"The manufacturing has got a lot more standardised than it was 10 to 15
years ago," said Prof Grey.

However battery packs - combining battery cells to generate more power -
can be problematic and this is increasingly common. Batteries containing
12 cells, for example, are readily available for laptops.

"The more you put together, the higher the likelihood that some will
fail," she added.

"There are still flaws emerging but it's getting better. It is a
challenge - with so many being produced, you just need one error."
Signs to watch out for

There can be symptoms indicating that a battery is about to fail, said
support and repairs provider Geek Squad.

"Sometimes, a battery will start to swell and bulge before it fails
completely, as the internal cells rupture and break," it says on its
website.

"But the bulge doesn't always happen. If not, you might notice that your
device is a little warmer than usual - but let's be honest, our phones
get fairly warm during standard usage anyway."

The firm suggests disposing of any batteries displaying these signs.

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On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:55:01 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Because of ignorance. What else?
Any battery would explode if its power is drained too fast.
 
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:55:01 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37255127

Given his post address, accord him some credit guys.
He's learned how to cut-paste across 6 newsgroups.
 
On 3/09/16 09:02, JJ wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:55:01 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Because of ignorance. What else?
Any battery would explode if its power is drained too fast.

You expert all consumer buyers of rechargeable batteries to be experts? ;)

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On 3/09/16 08:53, avagadro7@gmail.com wrote:
> misuse

A word applicable to all products and services? ;)

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On 3/09/16 09:31, Black Iccy wrote:
Given his post address, accord him some credit guys.
He's learned how to cut-paste across 6 newsgroups.

I am merely sharing information in a public, open newsgroup, NOT trying
to win fame, glory and honor.

Find your Holy War in Vatican, not Usenet. :)

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Last time Dell Laptop Lithium batteries caught fire , it
turned out to be metal shavings in the batteries: 3C (cheap,
chinese crap)
 
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:37:42 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 3/09/16 09:02, JJ wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 02:55:01 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Because of ignorance. What else?
Any battery would explode if its power is drained too fast.


You expert all consumer buyers of rechargeable batteries to be experts? ;)

Who said it's the consumers' ignorance?

Either way... Even if they're experts, the batteries will always explode if
it's drained too fast.
 
On 3/09/16 19:37, JJ wrote:
Who said it's the consumers' ignorance?

Either way... Even if they're experts, the batteries will always explode if
it's drained too fast.

Maybe we should stop shrinking the size of rechargeable batteries... :)

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In article <1e3a4wmte62zv$.1lqpwsifs5mal.dlg@40tude.net>,
jj4public@vfemail.net says...
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:37:42 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 3/09/16 09:02, JJ wrote:

You expect all consumer buyers of rechargeable batteries to be
experts? ;)

Who said it's the consumers' ignorance?

Either way... Even if they're experts, the batteries will always explode if
it's drained too fast.

Even real engineers can apparently get it wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems

Mike.
 
On 3/09/16 22:25, MJC wrote:
Even real engineers can apparently get it wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems

Competence is a number, some bigger some smaller, while some are
pretending! :)

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On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:39:53 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Find your Holy War in Vatican, not Usenet. :)

I'd expect nothing less from a toylet -)
 
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 22:25:25 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/09/16 19:37, JJ wrote:

Who said it's the consumers' ignorance?

Either way... Even if they're experts, the batteries will always explode if
it's drained too fast.

Maybe we should stop shrinking the size of rechargeable batteries... :)

Just because you are using larger dildos does not mean
everyone else is. Hence the need for smaller batteries, or so I'm
told.
You cross-posted this to alt.comp.freeware because ?
OT up.
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On 4/09/16 20:27, Shadow wrote:
You cross-posted this to alt.comp.freeware because ?
OT up.

To remind more people... :)

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:39:34 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

I think it's Lithium just being Lithium.
Mikek

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On 09/05/2016 10:39 AM, amdx wrote:
I think it's Lithium just being Lithium.
Mikek

" lithium is highly reactive and flammable."

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On 9/5/2016 3:51 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 09/05/2016 10:39 AM, amdx wrote:
I think it's Lithium just being Lithium.
Mikek


" lithium is highly reactive and flammable."

John :-#)#

That was my point.

Mikek
 
On 6/09/16 23:03, amdx wrote:
That was my point.

Most mortals don't know what lithium is and how it behaves. Mind to
summarize? :)

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