white noise generator

[MNQ]

Hi All,

I need to create a pseudo random binary bit stream to be output from a cpld
in VHDL. I was thinking of creating a 32 or 33 bit register and loading it
with a fixed value and rotating that. Does this sound doable as a random
bit generator?
Thanks

Naveed

 

[Jan De Ceuster]

Hi All,

I need to create a pseudo random binary bit stream to be output from a cpld
in VHDL. I was thinking of creating a 32 or 33 bit register and loading it
with a fixed value and rotating that. Does this sound doable as a random
bit generator?
Thanks

Search on google for a PRBS generator. That should do the trick. Quite simple to
build also. Just your registers with some XOR ports... I sometimes like to use a
thing like this as a counter .

Jan

 

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

MNQ wrote:

I need to create a pseudo random binary bit stream ...

I was thinking of creating a 32 or 33 bit register and loading it
with a fixed value and rotating that. Does this sound doable as a random
bit generator?

A pseudo-random bit stream is a little bit more: It is based on a
primitive and irreducible polynomial over the Galois Field of 2. In
hardware it is nothing more than a vector, that is shifted, _but_ on
certain position fed back via XOR gates.

You simply have to find such a polynomial. Every book about
pseudo-random singal processing contains some. But you can also take the
polynomials from CRC generators - it is the same principle. If you
search for CRC polynomials you will often find pictures of them, so it
should be easy to model them in hardware.

Ralf

 

[Kai Harrekilde-Petersen]

Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf-Hildebrandt@gmx.de> writes:

MNQ wrote:



I need to create a pseudo random binary bit stream ...

I was thinking of creating a 32 or 33 bit register and loading it
with a fixed value and rotating that. Does this sound doable as a random
bit generator?

A pseudo-random bit stream is a little bit more: It is based on a
primitive and irreducible polynomial over the Galois Field of 2. In
hardware it is nothing more than a vector, that is shifted, _but_ on
certain position fed back via XOR gates.

You simply have to find such a polynomial. Every book about
pseudo-random singal processing contains some. But you can also take
the polynomials from CRC generators - it is the same principle. If you
search for CRC polynomials you will often find pictures of them, so it
should be easy to model them in hardware.

You can get a good list of polynomials from the online version of
"Numerical Recipes": http://lib-www.lanl.gov/numerical/

Regards,


Kai

 

[Charles M. Elias]

"MNQ" <corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<cenlj0$e6k$1@rdel.co.uk>...

Hi All,

I need to create a pseudo random binary bit stream to be output from a cpld
in VHDL. I was thinking of creating a 32 or 33 bit register and loading it
with a fixed value and rotating that. Does this sound doable as a random
bit generator?
Thanks

Naveed

Naveed,

There is an excellent free VHDL package, "lfsrstd.vhd" on Ben Cohen's
website:
http://members.aol.com/vhdlcohen/vhdl/Models.html. This has
everything you will need to generate a maximal length pseudorandom
sequence using a linear feedback shift register (LFSR). Check it out.

Charles

 

[MNQ]

Thanks for the link Charles. I will take a look now.

Also Thanks for everyone's help so far. It has been very much appreciated

Naveed


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"MNQ" <corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hi All,

I need to create a pseudo random binary bit stream to be output from a
cpld
in VHDL. I was thinking of creating a 32 or 33 bit register and loading
it
with a fixed value and rotating that. Does this sound doable as a
random
bit generator?
Thanks

Naveed

Naveed,

There is an excellent free VHDL package, "lfsrstd.vhd" on Ben Cohen's
website:
http://members.aol.com/vhdlcohen/vhdl/Models.html. This has
everything you will need to generate a maximal length pseudorandom
sequence using a linear feedback shift register (LFSR). Check it out.

Charles