What's the Holdup With 3-D Monitors?

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Bret Cahill

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Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors. Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

If the orientation of each pixel could be changed back and forth
quickly enough then both images could come from the same set of
pixels.

It should also be easy to make stereo compatible with mono vision, if
only by just giving them one image.

In addition to the large video market you spend 75% of your time on
Sketchup changing views to "see" the thing in "3D."

The patents of inventions on 3D monitors seem to be making it more
complicated than what it needs to be.


Bret Cahill
 
Bret Cahill wrote:
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors. Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.
[snipc rap]

Yer stooopid.

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye. Look into the transparent lens and the eye
behind it.

idiot

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Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cahill@yahoo.com> writes:

It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.
Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?

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"Wovon man nicht sprechan kann, darüber muss man schweigen"
- Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
 
In sci.physics Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors. Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.
All the adverse health effects may put a damper on widespread adoption.

http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/15/samsung-issues-warnings-about-3-d-tv/

http://www.acorn-online.com/joomla15/wiltonbulletin/news/localnews/60195-3-d-tv-and-movie-technology-can-help-reveal-undetected-vision-problems-.html

The first lawsuit over dad stroking out while watching 3D tv kill the entire
industry.


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On 6/10/2010 12:06 PM, Aatu Koskensilta wrote:
Bret Cahill<Bret_E_Cahill@yahoo.com> writes:

It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.

Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?

He's an a-hole. First time I have to kill file him in this ng ;)
 
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors.  Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

[snipc rap]

Yer stooopid.

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye.  Look into the transparent lens
Transparent lens?

It was assumed responders to the OP would be intelligent enough to
figger out each lens would be polarized to each image's orientation.


Bret Cahill
 
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors.  Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.
.. . .

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye.  Look into the transparent lens
It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.


Bret Cahill
 
Bret Cahill wrote:
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors. Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

. . .

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye. Look into the transparent lens

It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.

Bret Cahill
DO THe EXPERIMENT, JACKASS. You don't know shit about polarization.
Observation says you don't know shit about polarization. The universe
says you don't know shit about polarization.

You don't know shit about polarization. Yer stooopid.

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye. Look into the transparent lens and the eye
behind it.

idiot

--
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http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
 
On 10 June, 16:23, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors.  Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

If the orientation of each pixel could be changed back and forth
quickly enough then both images could come from the same set of
pixels.

It should also be easy to make stereo compatible with mono vision, if
only by just giving them one image.

In addition to the large video market you spend 75% of your time on
Sketchup changing views to "see" the thing in "3D."

The patents of inventions on 3D monitors seem to be making it more
complicated than what it needs to be.

Bret Cahill
I've been told by someone that 3d tv has already been developed where
you do not need glasses and you can watch it from quite wide angles as
well.
 
Aatu Koskensilta wrote:
Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?

Don't feed the troll.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
Bret Cahill wrote:
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors. Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

If the orientation of each pixel could be changed back and forth
quickly enough then both images could come from the same set of
pixels.
That's basically done : a lot of samsung LCD monitors are already
"stereo compatible" and use this polarization fact. It's not even
advertised.
I'm not sure though what is the pattern of pixels and what polarization
is used (vertical/horizontal, diagonals, circular...).

And to answer Giga2, there are indeed passive 3d monitors. Still
expensive and not very high resolution though.

Cheers

--
Nicolas Bonneel
http://cs.ubc.ca/~nbonneel/
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Aatu Koskensilta wrote:

Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?

Don't feed the troll.
LOL!

You tell 'em, MT!

--
hz
sci.logic
 
herbzet wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Aatu Koskensilta wrote:

Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?

Don't feed the troll.

LOL!

You tell 'em, MT!

If he won't eat his 'New & Improved Troll Chow ™ŠŽ', let him starve.
;-)


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
Bret Cahill wrote:
It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.

Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?

Would a self evident truth keep everyone happy?
Nah, the place is littered with 'em already.

But cereally, this is off-topic for sci.logic. Could y'all
remove sci.logic from the list of ng's, as I have?

Thanx.

--
hz
 
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors.  Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

If the orientation of each pixel could be changed back and forth
quickly enough then both images could come from the same set of
pixels.

That's basically done : a lot of samsung LCD monitors are already
"stereo compatible" and use this polarization fact. It's not even
advertised.
Not that I personally want it for anything besides CAD but it seems
like the kind of thing that would really be a hot seller.

I'm not sure though what is the pattern of pixels and what polarization
is used (vertical/horizontal, diagonals, circular...).
That would be easy to find out.

And to answer Giga2, there are indeed passive 3d monitors. Still
expensive and not very high resolution though.
How would that work?


Bret Cahill
 
It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.

Why do you think sci.logic readers have any interest in polarized
lenses?
Would a self evident truth keep everyone happy?

www.bretcahill.com
 
yeah, that was a good idea, BC.

That's basically done : a lot of samsung LCD monitors are already
"stereo compatible" and use this polarization fact.
 
In article <4C1105A9.4687BF21@hate.spam.net>,
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye. Look into the transparent lens and the eye
behind it.
I have seen various versions of such glasses. Various 3-D exhibition
systems can differ from one another. Looking at a METALLIC mirror can be
surprising results. For example, light reaching the eye and getting
scattered to the mirror will have a 50% loss of intensity loss with an
ideal Polarioid linear polarizer. Ideally, after reflection from the
mirror will not change the polarization state, and there will no
additional loss in the Polaroid on the way back irrespective of the
polarizer orientation.

If you do want to see a real effect, take a polarizer sheet and place it
in front of a cube corner. Rotate the polarizer and look. Use TIR cube
corners and silvered corners and compare. Do the same with a porro prism.

Al, predict what you will see before doing the experiment.

Bill

--
An old man would be better off never having been born.
 
Stereo vision should be easy with LCD monitors.  Just polarize every
other pixel one way and the remaining half 90 degrees.

. . .

Take a pair of movie 3-D glasses, walk into the bathroom, look into a
mirror, and close one eye.  Look into the transparent lens

It was assumed that newsgroups responders would be intelligent enough
to figger out that _both_ lens would be polarized.

Bret Cahill

DO THe EXPERIMENT,
If you drink you can join the "Man Will Never Fly" Society in Kitty
Hawk, NC.


Bret Cahill
 

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