What's it called ... ?

[Arfa Daily]

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

 

[JW]

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com>
wrote in Message id: <68Zmu.992$8z2.404@fx18.am4>:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

Possibly?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/3365%2F06%20300SF/MC06G-300-ND/1832096

 

[JW]

On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:03:50 -0500 JW <none@dev.null> wrote in Message id:
<m7qo99hiskcsmgr2679qjq49tno4465av1@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com
wrote in Message id: <68Zmu.992$8z2.404@fx18.am4>:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

Possibly?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/3365%2F06%20300SF/MC06G-300-ND/1832096

Or better yet
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8125%2F04%20100/ML04G-100-ND/1107830

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"What do you call that brown candy that tastes like chocolate?"

You're probably trying to think of the name of the connector -- an "insulation
displacement" connector.

 

For the reasons posted earlier, I tend to salvage all kinds of ribbin cables from non-repairable units. Fixed many a unit with scrap cables. Much easier than the wire/tape method.

Dan

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector.

Something like this?
<http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg>
<http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html>

I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to
length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one,
to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual
solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the
oven. Next time, I'll use RTV).

I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat
ribbon cable.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[OldGuy]

Arfa Daily submitted this idea :

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16
conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or
various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also
used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails
bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

It is called a "flat flex cable"

filtered for solder tab to solder tab.

many examples here
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv31=239&FV=fff40018%2Cfff80232&k=flat+cable&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25

and specifically one sample
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/A9AAT-1202E/A9AAT-1202E-ND/470369



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[N_Cook]

On 02/12/2013 10:01, Arfa Daily wrote:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece
say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional'
ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically -
think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on
separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors
where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you
always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a
bitch to get back into the connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

I call it "bugger it (forgot the damn hotmelt)" Unless you run a fillet
of hotmelt along the solder point line, at least one of the filaments
break at a solder point on moving the ribbon

 

[Arfa Daily]

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
newsdfp99dr544nkv9tqriph11evgqsf5cmfd@4ax.com...

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say
8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub
boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip
the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the
connector.

Something like this?
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg
http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html

I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to
length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one,
to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual
solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the
oven. Next time, I'll use RTV).

I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat
ribbon cable.

--
Jeff Liebermann

That's the right sort of spacing, and I know exactly what that stuff is.
It's still not quite right though. The stuff shown there is made from flat
conductors, a bit like flexiprint, that are folded round into 'tubes' where
they emerge from the insulation, to form sort of connection 'pins' for
soldering into a pcb

Arfa

 

[Arfa Daily]

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
newsdfp99dr544nkv9tqriph11evgqsf5cmfd@4ax.com...

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say
8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub
boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip
the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the
connector.

Something like this?
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg
http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html

I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to
length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one,
to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual
solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the
oven. Next time, I'll use RTV).

I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat
ribbon cable.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

This is about as close as I've found so far

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOLEX-882060016-RIBBON-CABLE-IDT-6WAY-PER-/390614562214?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item5af27135a6

Arfa

 

[dave]

On 12/02/2013 05:42 PM, Arfa Daily wrote:

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
newsdfp99dr544nkv9tqriph11evgqsf5cmfd@4ax.com...
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece
say 8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional'
ribbon of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK
Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub
boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts
grip the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the
connector.

Something like this?
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg

http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html


I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to
length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one,
to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual
solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the
oven. Next time, I'll use RTV).

I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat
ribbon cable.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

This is about as close as I've found so far

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOLEX-882060016-RIBBON-CABLE-IDT-6WAY-PER-/390614562214?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item5af27135a6


Arfa

These guys have a lot of ribbon cable:

http://www.apexelectronic.com/image/tid/48

 

[chuck]

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:09:14 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"JW" <none@dev.null> wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:03:50 -0500 JW <none@dev.null> wrote in Message id:
m7qo99hiskcsmgr2679qjq49tno4465av1@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com
wrote in Message id: <68Zmu.992$8z2.404@fx18.am4>:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say
8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon
of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK
Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub
boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip
the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the
connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

Possibly?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/3365%2F06%20300SF/MC06G-300-ND/1832096

Or better yet
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8125%2F04%20100/ML04G-100-ND/1107830


That looks pretty much like it. Looks like it's made by 3M. I'll do some
more hunting based on that. Thanks for your input

Arfa

It is made by 3M. We used to get it from Mouser or Digikey to repair
Sony BetaCam decks. Some operators would constantly move the control
panel up and down breaking the ribbon cable link. Chuck

 

[JW]

On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:27:39 -0600 chuck <chuck@deja.net> wrote in Message
id: <dsv9a9dl4hnmfv59l4k4jn31a7kams7vo0@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:09:14 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:



"JW" <none@dev.null> wrote in message
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:03:50 -0500 JW <none@dev.null> wrote in Message id:
m7qo99hiskcsmgr2679qjq49tno4465av1@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com
wrote in Message id: <68Zmu.992$8z2.404@fx18.am4>:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the
conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is
probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say
8
conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon
of
16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK
Actor
or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub
boards.
Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip
the
soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned
tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the
connector.

Anyone ?

Arfa

Possibly?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/3365%2F06%20300SF/MC06G-300-ND/1832096

Or better yet
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8125%2F04%20100/ML04G-100-ND/1107830


That looks pretty much like it. Looks like it's made by 3M. I'll do some
more hunting based on that. Thanks for your input

Arfa


It is made by 3M. We used to get it from Mouser or Digikey to repair
Sony BetaCam decks. Some operators would constantly move the control
panel up and down breaking the ribbon cable link. Chuck

Weird. All of Arfa's posts after the original in this thread are not
available on Astraweb's server. In any case, you're welcome.

 

Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon
cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web'
between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ?

I call it "power ribbon cable", but I don't know if that's the official
name. It is all over the place in the larger Japanese consumer
equipment I have taken the lids off of, like VCRs and stereos. Along
that line, I Googled up some Japanese wire companies, but I can't find
any that admit to making it, at least on their English web sites.

> Anyone ?

3M 8132 might be closer to what you want; it is 18 AWG wires (about 0.8
mm^2) on 0.156" (3.96 mm) centers. They seem to call it "power flat
cable". More information might be available at this hideous link:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=782P51QZ6Dit6Z44P5GPWMgl1NNRWNJR31bl

The same thing with resistor colors and 22 AWG wires (about 0.3 mm^2) is
3391:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=782P51QZ6Dit6Z44P5GPWMgl1NNRWNJR31bl

Matt Roberds

 

[Arfa Daily]

<mroberds@att.net> wrote in message news:l8as8m$kuk$1@dont-email.me...

Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon
cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web'
between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ?

I call it "power ribbon cable", but I don't know if that's the official
name. It is all over the place in the larger Japanese consumer
equipment I have taken the lids off of, like VCRs and stereos. Along
that line, I Googled up some Japanese wire companies, but I can't find
any that admit to making it, at least on their English web sites.

Anyone ?

3M 8132 might be closer to what you want; it is 18 AWG wires (about 0.8
mm^2) on 0.156" (3.96 mm) centers. They seem to call it "power flat
cable". More information might be available at this hideous link:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=782P51QZ6Dit6Z44P5GPWMgl1NNRWNJR31bl

The same thing with resistor colors and 22 AWG wires (about 0.3 mm^2) is
3391:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=782P51QZ6Dit6Z44P5GPWMgl1NNRWNJR31bl

Matt Roberds

Thanks Matt. I'll take a look when I have a minute

Arfa

 

[Arfa Daily]

<mroberds@att.net> wrote in message news:l8as8m$kuk$1@dont-email.me...

Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon
cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web'
between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ?

I call it "power ribbon cable", but I don't know if that's the official
name. It is all over the place in the larger Japanese consumer
equipment I have taken the lids off of, like VCRs and stereos. Along
that line, I Googled up some Japanese wire companies, but I can't find
any that admit to making it, at least on their English web sites.

Anyone ?

3M 8132 might be closer to what you want; it is 18 AWG wires (about 0.8
mm^2) on 0.156" (3.96 mm) centers. They seem to call it "power flat
cable". More information might be available at this hideous link:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=782P51QZ6Dit6Z44P5GPWMgl1NNRWNJR31bl

The same thing with resistor colors and 22 AWG wires (about 0.3 mm^2) is
3391:
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_Z7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=782P51QZ6Dit6Z44P5GPWMgl1NNRWNJR31bl

Matt Roberds

Thanks Matt. I'll take a look when I have a minute

Arfa