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What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?
 
go wrote:
What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?
A microcontroller is a complete microcomputer with program,
memory and I/O devices on a single chip. Usually they're
packaged so that apart from necessary pins like power,
ground and possibly external oscillator crystal connections,
every pin can be used for one or more application purposes
(i.e. things you want to achieve, not just things to keep
the microcontroller functioning).

PIC is the name of a particular family of microcontrollers made
by Microchip.
 
In article <2v5puoF2hqf7aU1@uni-berlin.de>, no@spam.please says...
go wrote:
What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?

A microcontroller is a complete microcomputer with program,
memory and I/O devices on a single chip. Usually they're
packaged so that apart from necessary pins like power,
ground and possibly external oscillator crystal connections,
every pin can be used for one or more application purposes
(i.e. things you want to achieve, not just things to keep
the microcontroller functioning).

PIC is the name of a particular family of microcontrollers made
by Microchip.
Must be exam time, two identical questions from two people....
 
"Ray" <zathrasAT@netspaceDOTnet.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf86b9e601a06ce9896bd@news.netspace.net.au...
In article <2v5puoF2hqf7aU1@uni-berlin.de>, no@spam.please says...
go wrote:
What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?

A microcontroller is a complete microcomputer with program,
memory and I/O devices on a single chip. Usually they're
packaged so that apart from necessary pins like power,
ground and possibly external oscillator crystal connections,
every pin can be used for one or more application purposes
(i.e. things you want to achieve, not just things to keep
the microcontroller functioning).

PIC is the name of a particular family of microcontrollers made
by Microchip.


Must be exam time, two identical questions from two people....
same person

yep but those are the sort of stuff that would be covered in the first
lecture
in the first few minutes.

The ones that come next would be whats the difference between
Harvard or princeton/von nueman architecture.

Going to have at least 100 exam papers to mark in the next few weeks
on introductory digital systems (programmable logic with cpld and pic
microcontrollers
12f675 and 16f877).

Shouldn't have been one of the students I've had to tutor as thats in the
lecture notes
lecture 1 on the pic.

Alex
 
IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT IS NOT EXAM TIME FOR ME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
OTHER PERSON, I HAD TO POST THE SAME QUESTION TWICE AS I FOUND THE "GO
TO THE WEB SITE AND GET THE ANSWER" REPLY USELESS.

Ray wrote:
In article <2v5puoF2hqf7aU1@uni-berlin.de>, no@spam.please says...

go wrote:

What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?

A microcontroller is a complete microcomputer with program,
memory and I/O devices on a single chip. Usually they're
packaged so that apart from necessary pins like power,
ground and possibly external oscillator crystal connections,
every pin can be used for one or more application purposes
(i.e. things you want to achieve, not just things to keep
the microcontroller functioning).

PIC is the name of a particular family of microcontrollers made
by Microchip.



Must be exam time, two identical questions from two people....
 
go wrote:
IF YOU DON'T MIND
Yep, Ray was off the mark. Doesn't mean you have to shout.
Lose the attitude if you ever want to get help here again.
I thought Don's comment "go to my website and buy something"
was unnecessarily unhelpful too, which is why I piped up.

Thanks Alex for your correction on Hitech. I also was going
to mention the ARM, a good option I have been meaning to try.
Where do you teach?
 
go wrote:
IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT IS NOT EXAM TIME FOR ME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
OTHER PERSON, I HAD TO POST THE SAME QUESTION TWICE AS I FOUND THE "GO
TO THE WEB SITE AND GET THE ANSWER" REPLY USELESS.

Ray wrote:

In article <2v5puoF2hqf7aU1@uni-berlin.de>, no@spam.please says...

go wrote:

What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?


A microcontroller is a complete microcomputer with program,
memory and I/O devices on a single chip. Usually they're
packaged so that apart from necessary pins like power,
ground and possibly external oscillator crystal connections,
every pin can be used for one or more application purposes
(i.e. things you want to achieve, not just things to keep
the microcontroller functioning).

PIC is the name of a particular family of microcontrollers made
by Microchip.



Must be exam time, two identical questions from two people....

There is much toooo much patience in this room for this "go" person.
Seriously, I'm humbled and simultaneously disappointed by the patience
here.

On another note how successful can someone with such impatience be in
learning a skill where optimisation is paramount? Anyway, my 1.5 cents :)

NK
 
"go" <goaway@dot.com> wrote in message news:418e3366@clear.net.nz...
IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT IS NOT EXAM TIME FOR ME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER
PERSON, I HAD TO POST THE SAME QUESTION TWICE AS I FOUND THE "GO TO THE
WEB SITE AND GET THE ANSWER" REPLY USELESS.
www.microchip.com find the glossary of terms
look for the getting started pages

do a search google or other.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=Microprocessors+vs.+Microcontrollers

This question has been answered many times before.

Lots of US unis put their subject notes online.

Intel supplies a model curriculum
http://www.intel.com/education/highered/modelcurriculum.htm

look for a copy of the Embeded Systems Dictionary by Jack Ganssle
and Michael Barr

www.winpicprog.co.uk look at the tutorials
http://www.mikroelektronika.co.yu/english/product/books/PICbook/0_Uvod.htm
www.piclist.com
 
"Clifford Heath" <no@spam.please> wrote in message
news:2v7js3F2iu0jpU1@uni-berlin.de...
go wrote:
IF YOU DON'T MIND

Yep, Ray was off the mark. Doesn't mean you have to shout.
Lose the attitude if you ever want to get help here again.
I thought Don's comment "go to my website and buy something"
was unnecessarily unhelpful too, which is why I piped up.
It is exam time most of the uni's have their exams starting this week or
next week
and running for 3 - 4 weeks.
Just happens I get all mine in the first 4 days, could do with the extra
study time.

Thanks Alex for your correction on Hitech. I also was going
to mention the ARM, a good option I have been meaning to try.
Where do you teach?
I don't teach, I'm a student and tutor at UTS .
Currently studying Applied Physics and Electrical Engineering.
(Its like being in paradise after ten years of shift work).

I tutor Introductory Digital Systems
introductory programmable loic using xilinx l9572xc and
intro to microcontrollers using the pic16f877 and 12f675.

Done a bit of contract work on small micro systems
and programmable logic.

Spend quite a lot of time using microcontrollers and cplds/fpgas.

If anyone is after a cheap fpga board the xilinx spartan3 starter kits are
very good
around Aus$150
http://www.xilinx.com/products/spartan3/s3boards.htm
made by digilentinc for xilinx
https://digilent.us/Sales/Product.cfm?Prod=S3BOARD
who also make addon boards like ethernet, usb etc

https://digilent.us/Sales/System.cfm
https://digilent.us/Sales/Peripheral.cfm

Alex
 
Same guy, too dumb to use google or a dictionary I guess.

Al

Ray wrote:

In article <2v5puoF2hqf7aU1@uni-berlin.de>, no@spam.please says...

go wrote:

What is the difference between a pic & a microcontroller or even a
microcomputer?

A microcontroller is a complete microcomputer with program,
memory and I/O devices on a single chip. Usually they're
packaged so that apart from necessary pins like power,
ground and possibly external oscillator crystal connections,
every pin can be used for one or more application purposes
(i.e. things you want to achieve, not just things to keep
the microcontroller functioning).

PIC is the name of a particular family of microcontrollers made
by Microchip.



Must be exam time, two identical questions from two people....
 

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