what are "trade" prices?

J

John Savage

Guest
There's an electronics store in Ashfield that advertises prices for
"trade". Does this mean that possession of an ABN will get you these good
prices, or what exactly does one need to do to be eligible for their
"trade" prices? It doesn't have anything to do with the quantity of goods
purchased, does it?

Would it be enough to given them my sister's ABN (her "Majestic Cake
Decorations" business or something) and let them know I am picking up an
order for the boss?
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)
 
"John Savage"
There's an electronics store in Ashfield that advertises prices for
"trade".

** Who could that be ???


Does this mean that possession of an ABN will get you these good
prices, or what exactly does one need to do to be eligible for their
"trade" prices?

** Supply proof of being " in the electronics trade ".


It doesn't have anything to do with the quantity of goods
purchased, does it?
** Nope.


Would it be enough to given them my sister's ABN (her "Majestic Cake
Decorations" business or something) and let them know I am picking up an
order for the boss?

** WES require a written order on each occasion that indicates the buyer is
someone involved in the electronics repair trade or a professional user of
electronics.

It is basically a trade discount.




.............. Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:

** WES require a written order on each occasion that indicates the
buyer is someone involved in the electronics repair trade or a
professional user of electronics.
All that's required for a WES account is an ABN and a pulse.
 
"Poxy"
Phil Allison wrote:

** WES require a written order on each occasion that indicates the
buyer is someone involved in the electronics repair trade or a
professional user of electronics.

All that's required for a WES account is an ABN and a pulse.

** As I do not have an account with WES I have no experience of what rules
they apply for opening one - WES management can make 'em up and break them
at whim.

But the OP's question was not about opening an account.

It was about making a counter purchase.




............ Phil
 
Poxy wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:

** WES require a written order on each occasion that indicates the
buyer is someone involved in the electronics repair trade or a
professional user of electronics.

All that's required for a WES account is an ABN and a pulse.
It's quite legal to operate a business without an ABN, and some do.
Nor is there any reason for a supplier to require a customer's ABN
unless they're writing a tax invoice for more than $1,000 and don't
have an address -- ATO requires one or the other.

I still use their pre-GST order form, since I 've never bothered to
scan the current one, and they've never asked for an ABN (which I do
have). I also have a customer number.

Originally they required an account application, though if they're
like most trade suppliers they probably accept cash orders over the
counter from non-account customers.

--
John H
 
"John_H"
It's quite legal to operate a business without an ABN, and some do.

** As I read the rules, to avoid having an ABN a business must have income
below the threshold AND not supply goods or services to other businesses -
or else withholding tax must be taken from those invoices.


Nor is there any reason for a supplier to require a customer's ABN
unless they're writing a tax invoice for more than $1,000 and don't
have an address -- ATO requires one or the other.

** They can still ask for it as an identifier.


I still use their pre-GST order form, since I 've never bothered to
scan the current one, and they've never asked for an ABN (which I do
have). I also have a customer number.

** The WES customer number is to let them keep track of your buying habits
and allow mail outs.



Originally they required an account application, though if they're
like most trade suppliers they probably accept cash orders over the
counter from non-account customers.

** Read the heading - what is it asking ??




............ Phil
 
It usually just means that they claim to be selling
the items for what a retailer would pay for them.

Thats often a lie.

John Savage <rookswood@suburbian.com.au> wrote in message
news:050623000105102.23Jun05$rookswood@suburbian.com...

There's an electronics store in Ashfield that advertises
prices for "trade". Does this mean that possession of
an ABN will get you these good prices,
Usually not, few advertise like that with real
trade prices that require an ABN to get.

or what exactly does one need to do
to be eligible for their "trade" prices?
If they are real trade prices, its often just claiming to be in the trade.

It doesn't have anything to do with the
quantity of goods purchased, does it?
It can do.

Would it be enough to given them my sister's ABN (her
"Majestic Cake Decorations" business or something)
and let them know I am picking up an order for the boss?
Depends on the operation. Many just want an ABN
and dont give a flying red fuck what business its in.

And its better not to ask, just act as if you are in the trade,
provide the ABN if its asked for, and dont say anything if it isnt.
 
Phil Allison <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in
message news:3humi3Fetbj2U1@individual.net...
John_H wrote

It's quite legal to operate a business without an ABN, and some do.

As I read the rules, to avoid having an ABN a business must have income below
the threshold
Correct.

AND not supply goods or services to other businesses -
Incorrect. Tho many of those would prefer to be
able to claim the GST credit on their inputs, some
dont necessarily care with minor transactions.

or else withholding tax must be taken from those invoices.
You've mangled that completely. Thats what
applys to PAYMENTS, not to purchases.

Nor is there any reason for a supplier to require a customer's ABN unless
they're writing a tax invoice for more than $1,000 and don't have an
address -- ATO requires one or the other.

They can still ask for it as an identifier.
The customer number is that.

I still use their pre-GST order form, since I 've never bothered to scan the
current one, and they've never asked for an ABN (which I do have). I also
have a customer number.

The WES customer number is to let them keep track of your buying habits and
allow mail outs.
Its there for more than just that.

Originally they required an account application, though if they're like most
trade suppliers they probably accept cash orders over the counter from
non-account customers.

Read the heading - what is it asking ??
Impossible to say with any certainty.
 
"Rod Speed"
Phil Allison John_H
It's quite legal to operate a business without an ABN, and some do.

As I read the rules, to avoid having an ABN a business must have income
below the threshold

Correct.

AND not supply goods or services to other businesses -

Incorrect.

** Wait for the rest of the sentence - FUCKWIT !!


or else withholding tax must be taken from those invoices.

You've mangled that completely.

** Try learning to read - FUCKWIT .


Thats what
applys to PAYMENTS, not to purchases.

** Learn to read - FUCKWIT !!!



Read the heading - what is it asking ??

Impossible to say with any certainty.


** Learn to read - FUCKWIT !!!



............. Phil
 
Phil Allison <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in
message news:3hv0j3Fiavh5U1@individual.net...
Rod Speed wrote
Phil Allison wrote
John_H wrote

It's quite legal to operate a business without an ABN, and some do.

As I read the rules, to avoid having an ABN a business must have income
below the threshold

Correct.

AND not supply goods or services to other businesses -

Incorrect.

Wait for the rest of the sentence - FUCKWIT !!
Go and fuck yourself, TOASTER MOLESTING WELFARE BLUDGER.

<reams of some toaster molesting welfare bludger's desperate
attempts to bullshit its way out of its predicament that fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs>
 
"Rod Speed"


Wait for the rest of the sentence - FUCKWIT !!

Go and fuck yourself, TOASTER MOLESTING WELFARE BLUDGER.


** ROTFLMAO - the mad robot could not possibly be more wrong.





............. Phil
 
Go and fuck yourself, TOASTER MOLESTING WELFARE BLUDGER.

reams of some toaster molesting welfare bludger's desperate
attempts to bullshit its way out of its predicament that fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs
Hmm, that's a good one.
Straight from the mouth of a 13 year old.

-mark
 
Rod Speed wrote:
Go and fuck yourself, TOASTER MOLESTING WELFARE BLUDGER.

reams of some toaster molesting welfare bludger's desperate
attempts to bullshit its way out of its predicament that fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs

Good to see more and more people are recognising Phil's
contribution to mankind. The prick's been bullshitting all
week on this newsgroup, while on aus.hi-fi they work out
how to ban the fool forever. I've honest lost track of his
pig-ignorant maundering's about his supposed electronics
skills whether it's switchmode transformer design, where he
got done like a dinner or simply the Ft of 2N3055's it's
a constant battle against a flood of bullshit!!!.
 
Some terminal fuckwit welfare bludging toaster molester claiming to be
Phil Allison <philallison@tpg.com.au> desperately attempted to bullshit
its way out of its predicament in message news:3hvaedFj3gnvU1@individual.net...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
 
"Mark Harriss" <billy@blartco.co.uk> wrote in message
news:42ba8976$0$839$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
Rod Speed wrote:
Go and fuck yourself, TOASTER MOLESTING WELFARE BLUDGER.

reams of some toaster molesting welfare bludger's desperate
attempts to bullshit its way out of its predicament that fooled
absolutely no one at all, as always, flushed where it belongs


Good to see more and more people are recognising Phil's
contribution to mankind. The prick's been bullshitting all
week on this newsgroup, while on aus.hi-fi they work out
how to ban the fool forever. I've honest lost track of his
pig-ignorant maundering's about his supposed electronics
skills whether it's switchmode transformer design, where he
got done like a dinner or simply the Ft of 2N3055's it's
a constant battle against a flood of bullshit!!!.
You can change "Phil" to "Rod" in the above and it would still ring true.
 
Clockmeister wrote:
You can change "Phil" to "Rod" in the above and it would still ring true.

Ahh... well I've had fruitful and helpful discussions with Rod
in the past and unlike Phil he's susceptible to reason something
Phil never lets get int he way of a good spew. I'd buy Rod a beer
in a pub but Phil I wouldn't piss on if he was on fire: he's a few
roos short in the top paddock IMHO.

Regards
Mark
 
Phil knows electronics.
Rod dose not know anything about electronics.
I hate to say this as Rod may starting filling his mush base with
semiconductor & microcontroller information as he did with pair
gain,telstra and kilometers from exchanges and confuse everyone with
consumer quality assurance rubbish.

Phil is worth money,what could you pay Rod to do?dress gay and work in
a call center?

I have to disagree,I would bye Phil a beer and laugh at Rod.
 
jjbruce@gmail.com wrote:
Phil knows electronics.
Rod dose not know anything about electronics.
I hate to say this as Rod may starting filling his mush base with
semiconductor & microcontroller information as he did with pair
gain,telstra and kilometers from exchanges and confuse everyone with
consumer quality assurance rubbish.

Phil is worth money,what could you pay Rod to do?dress gay and work in
a call center?

I have to disagree,I would bye Phil a beer and laugh at Rod.

Horses for course I guess, I know for a fact Phil makes up
totally wrong crap when He doesn't know what he's on about.
At any rate I beleive this topic came up ages ago and the
general consensus was that Rod was better than Phil any day.
 
"Mark Harriss"

Horses for course I guess, I know for a fact Phil makes up
totally wrong crap when He doesn't know what he's on about.

** Mental defectives like Mark the Fascist do not know any facts.






.............. Phil
 
jjbruce@gmail.com wrote:
Phil knows electronics.
Rod dose not know anything about electronics.
I hate to say this as Rod may starting filling his mush base with
semiconductor & microcontroller information as he did with pair
gain,telstra and kilometers from exchanges and confuse everyone with
consumer quality assurance rubbish.

Phil is worth money,what could you pay Rod to do?dress gay and work in
a call center?

I have to disagree,I would bye Phil a beer and laugh at Rod.

If ether's teeth caught fire I STILL wouldn't piss on them
 

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