Weird Wonders...

[Dean Hoffman]

I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
<https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic>

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

 

[Pimpom]

On 8/22/2020 9:10 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

1 in 300,000, eh? That would mean lightning strikes about 23,000
people every year and more than 2000 die, wow!

The closest I\'ve been to a direct lightning strike was back in
the summer of 1985. I was washing my car on my front yard under a
heavy downpour when a bolt struck a tree at the other end of my
compound, about 70 metres away. It was LOUD! A household help who
was looking out the kitchen window said that the blast sent him
staggering back.

But the biggest strike I personally know about occurred in
September the previous year. I was at a friend\'s house when it
struck at around 7 pm. The TV died immediately and it felt as if
the strike was really really close. Half an hour later, the
friend\'s sister came home from evening college about a km away
and said that the lightning struck right next to their classroom.

That was at a time when the Power & Electricity Department often
called me for help. The next day, I got reports from towns all
over the state saying that they\'d suffered severe damage from a
huge lightning strike the previous evening. The times all
coincided. That must have been one mother of a bolt.

 

[Don Y]

On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

 

[server]

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 4:12:12 PM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:

On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

Probably because ones lifestyle is more aligned with getting struck to begin with

 

[Don Y]

On 8/22/2020 4:49 PM, blocher@columbus.rr.com wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 4:12:12 PM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:
On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

Probably because ones lifestyle is more aligned with getting struck to begin with

Exactly.

You live in the \"wrong\" (if you\'re trying to avoid being struck) place.

Or, you work in the \"wrong\" environment.

Or, you fail to observe common sense precautions.

Or...

The assumption being that these issues won\'t change substantially.

By contrast, someone who lives in the \"right\" place, has the \"right\"
work environment and observes commonsense precautions will AVOID
being struck.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-08-22, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

It\'s only counter intuitive if you believe that nonsense about it never
striking the same place twice.

--
Jasen.

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On 8/22/20 3:11 PM, Don Y wrote:

On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
       I was watching BBC  America this morning and they showed some
odd effects of lightning on people.  A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

      The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

It took me awhile to find this and I don\'t trust my memory.

<https://discover.pbcgov.org/publicsafety/dem/Hazards/Lightning-Facts.aspx>
It says that half of all deaths occur after the storm passes and to
wait a half hour before going outside after the storm seems over.

 

[Don Y]

On 8/22/2020 8:04 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 8/22/20 3:11 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

It took me awhile to find this and I don\'t trust my memory.

https://discover.pbcgov.org/publicsafety/dem/Hazards/Lightning-Facts.aspx
It says that half of all deaths occur after the storm passes and to wait a
half hour before going outside after the storm seems over.

ISTR a recent news report of a strike when the \"storm\" was close to
100 miles away! I guess the point was that the \"storm\" isn\'t the
only generator of the events but merely ASSOCIATED with them.

<https://www.iweathernet.com/thunderstorms/distance-of-lightning-strike-from-thunderstorm>

When you consider how far the storm may be BEYOND the horizon, this
is pretty scary! (here, surrounded by mountains, we can\'t see
*aircraft* more than ~ten miles away!)

 

[Don Y]

On 8/22/2020 8:57 PM, Don Y wrote:

On 8/22/2020 8:04 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/22/20 3:11 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

It took me awhile to find this and I don\'t trust my memory.

https://discover.pbcgov.org/publicsafety/dem/Hazards/Lightning-Facts.aspx
It says that half of all deaths occur after the storm passes and to wait
a half hour before going outside after the storm seems over.

ISTR a recent news report of a strike when the \"storm\" was close to
100 miles away! I guess the point was that the \"storm\" isn\'t the
only generator of the events but merely ASSOCIATED with them.

(if you think of the storm as the area where it is raining)

https://www.iweathernet.com/thunderstorms/distance-of-lightning-strike-from-thunderstorm

When you consider how far the storm may be BEYOND the horizon, this
is pretty scary! (here, surrounded by mountains, we can\'t see
*aircraft* more than ~ten miles away!)

 

[Don Y]

On 8/22/2020 7:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2020-08-22, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

It\'s only counter intuitive if you believe that nonsense about it never
striking the same place twice.

People have no clue as to \"odds\" and probability. Hence all the
suckers who buy lottery tickets!

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On 8/22/20 1:46 PM, Pimpom wrote:

On 8/22/2020 9:10 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
        I was watching BBC  America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people.  A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic


       The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

1 in 300,000, eh? That would mean lightning strikes about 23,000 people
every year and more than 2000 die, wow!

The closest I\'ve been to a direct lightning strike was back in the
summer of 1985. I was washing my car on my front yard under a heavy
downpour when a bolt struck a tree at the other end of my compound,
about 70 metres away. It was LOUD! A household help who was looking out
the kitchen window said that the blast sent him staggering back.

But the biggest strike I personally know about occurred in September the
previous year. I was at a friend\'s house when it struck at around 7 pm.
The TV died immediately and it felt as if the strike was really really
close. Half an hour later, the friend\'s sister came home from evening
college about a km away and said that the lightning struck right next to
their classroom.

That was at a time when the Power & Electricity Department often called
me for help. The next day, I got reports from towns all over the state
saying that they\'d suffered severe damage from a huge lightning strike
the previous evening. The times all coincided. That must have been one
mother of a bolt.

The closest I\'ve been to a strike was when I was a little guy,
maybe 6 or 7. My parents were hauling irrigation pipe and let me
drive the tractor pulling the trailer. I thought I was really hot stuff
since they let me do that.
They were either loading or unloading the pipe from the storage
pile. I remember my mom yelling and both of them dropping the pipe. It
was one of those proverbial bolts out of the blue. The sky was mostly
clear with no threat of a storm. No one was hurt but my dad\'s hair
stood up for awhile.
I spent my working years fixing center pivot irrigation systems. My
task on one call was to repair a single 14 gauge wire buried two feet or
more around the field. The cause of the problem was lightning drilling
a hole into the ground and through the wire.

Off subject but funny:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoWiTcO7dk>
I hope you remember the group ABBA.

 

[Ricketty C]

On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:01:38 AM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:

On 8/22/2020 7:22 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-08-22, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 8/22/2020 8:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I was watching BBC America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people. A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times..

What\'s counterintuitive is that you are slightly MORE likely to be struck
a second time, having been struck once, already!

It\'s only counter intuitive if you believe that nonsense about it never
striking the same place twice.

People have no clue as to \"odds\" and probability. Hence all the
suckers who buy lottery tickets!

You don\'t understand psychology. People gamble because of how it makes them feel, not because they expect to make money. No one makes money for more than a short while, but they do enjoy spending their money that way. The *hope* of winning is what they are buying and they realize that.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ricketty C]

On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 2:42:41 PM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 8/22/20 1:46 PM, Pimpom wrote:
On 8/22/2020 9:10 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
        I was watching BBC  America this morning and they showed some odd
effects of lightning on people.  A website showed a few.
https://www.boredpanda.com/scars-after-surviving-lightning-strike-lichtenberg-figures-photos/?utm_source=duckduckgo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic


       The show claimed that the effects are temporary a lot of times.

1 in 300,000, eh? That would mean lightning strikes about 23,000 people
every year and more than 2000 die, wow!

The closest I\'ve been to a direct lightning strike was back in the
summer of 1985. I was washing my car on my front yard under a heavy
downpour when a bolt struck a tree at the other end of my compound,
about 70 metres away. It was LOUD! A household help who was looking out
the kitchen window said that the blast sent him staggering back.

But the biggest strike I personally know about occurred in September the
previous year. I was at a friend\'s house when it struck at around 7 pm.
The TV died immediately and it felt as if the strike was really really
close. Half an hour later, the friend\'s sister came home from evening
college about a km away and said that the lightning struck right next to
their classroom.

That was at a time when the Power & Electricity Department often called
me for help. The next day, I got reports from towns all over the state
saying that they\'d suffered severe damage from a huge lightning strike
the previous evening. The times all coincided. That must have been one
mother of a bolt.

The closest I\'ve been to a strike was when I was a little guy,
maybe 6 or 7. My parents were hauling irrigation pipe and let me
drive the tractor pulling the trailer. I thought I was really hot stuff
since they let me do that.
They were either loading or unloading the pipe from the storage
pile. I remember my mom yelling and both of them dropping the pipe. It
was one of those proverbial bolts out of the blue. The sky was mostly
clear with no threat of a storm. No one was hurt but my dad\'s hair
stood up for awhile.
I spent my working years fixing center pivot irrigation systems. My
task on one call was to repair a single 14 gauge wire buried two feet or
more around the field. The cause of the problem was lightning drilling
a hole into the ground and through the wire.

Off subject but funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoWiTcO7dk
I hope you remember the group ABBA.

I used to install burglar alarms. One service call was on the top of a ridge in a garage. The installer had run the perimeter loop cable through the holes with the power cables. A lighting strike had generated enough voltage to puncture the insulation of both cables and melt the alarm wire in two.... no three... no four... I had to replace the entire wire as well as the panel.

Typical hookup wire is rated to 300 or 400 volts I believe, how much voltage do you think it took to puncture the insulation on both cables?

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Don Y]

On 8/23/2020 11:42 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

The closest I\'ve been to a strike was when I was a little guy, maybe 6 or
7. My parents were hauling irrigation pipe and let me drive the tractor
pulling the trailer. I thought I was really hot stuff since they let me do that.
They were either loading or unloading the pipe from the storage pile. I
remember my mom yelling and both of them dropping the pipe. It was one of
those proverbial bolts out of the blue. The sky was mostly clear with no
threat of a storm. No one was hurt but my dad\'s hair stood up for awhile.

As a youngster, I recall being \"up late\" during a thunderstorm.
Back then, the \"count 5 seconds per mile\" trick seemed like
magic! So, at each flash, I\'d start counting, under my breath,
waiting for the accompanying thunderclap.

Once, it seemed that the \"clap\" occurred BEFORE the flash!
(not true, of course) The house shook.

Next morning, I noticed lots of tree bark on the ground at the
foot of a Walnut tree located immediately adjacent to the house
(~5 ft clearance). Looked up to see where it had been blown
off the side of the tree by the lightning strike.

\"Ah, that explains the coincident clap and flash!\"

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

https://youtu.be/CctTDj6SN1U